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How to get Channel 5 and BBC One HD on your Irish EPG and Recordable!!

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  • #92
    MBSnr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭MBSnr


    Nice one! Just FYI - It also works using multiple FTV cards to add the channels you want. I used an expired white UK card from East Anglia to add Channel 5 and ITVs etc and then used an old blue FTV UK London postcode card to get BBC1 London on 101.

    Shame my box didn't have BBC 1 HD in other channels before the DVB-S2 TP change....


  • #93
    rlogue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭rlogue


    So not as good as it first seemed then - only certain regional cards work and even then BBC 1 HD is still off limits unless it was manually tuned before the switch to DVB-S2.


  • #94
    Dymo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭Dymo


    Worked great for me, I have an old Blue card that I got about 6 years ago. West Country EPG.


  • #95
    givecredit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭givecredit


    rlogue wrote: »
    So not as good as it first seemed then - only certain regional cards work and even then BBC 1 HD is still off limits unless it was manually tuned before the switch to DVB-S2.

    Any regional cards should add All BBC channels (BBC 1 + 2 London/england, scotland, wales, BBC News) ITV1 London and Channel 4 and +1 London area to the 900s area of your epg and ITV 2, 3 AND 4 To entertainment area. Then the regional cards with free to air versions of ITV and Ch5 will add itv to 103 and five to 105


  • #96
    Pocaide
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭Pocaide


    Wow what a great find, utv on 103 and tv3 also on 103, Channel 5 on 105 and all recording. Thanks a million.


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  • #97
    200motels
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭200motels


    givecredit wrote: »
    Any regional cards should add All BBC channels (BBC 1 + 2 London/england, scotland, wales, BBC News) ITV1 London and Channel 4 and +1 London area to the 900s area of your epg and ITV 2, 3 AND 4 To entertainment area. Then the regional cards with free to air versions of ITV and Ch5 will add itv to 103 and five to 105
    Which regions will give you Ch5 just out of interest.


  • #98
    MBSnr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭MBSnr


    Which regions will give you Ch5 just out of interest.

    East Anglia does.
    London doesn't.
    Neither of those seem to give ITV1 or ITV HD.


  • #99
    johnire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭johnire


    Hi all.
    Just came across this thread and find it really interesting.
    I have UTV and Channel 5 set up as other channels and obviously this means I cant record anything ....but would really love to have that facility.
    I know that what Im asking here has already been answered in previous replies but Im going to be a pain and ask again!!
    I have 2 Sky+ boxes for different rooms in the house but since I got Sky installed I have never had either box plugged into the phone line.
    If I do go down the route of what the other posts suggest does this mean I would have to apply for 2 UK FTV cards?
    If I did get them do you think by ringing Sky to get them activated I will just be highlighting the fact that I dont have the boxes connected to a phone line?
    Also just a bit confused as to what exactly you end up with if all went well....are these extra channels just inserted into the channell list?
    Thanks!!


  • #100
    twinklerunner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭twinklerunner


    MBSnr wrote: »
    East Anglia does.
    London doesn't.
    Neither of those seem to give ITV1 or ITV HD.

    London gets you ITV1 London (103) & ITV1 HD (178).


  • #101
    MBSnr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭MBSnr


    twinklerunner wrote: »
    London gets you ITV1 London (103) & ITV1 HD (178).

    Hmmm I might look/try again but I didn't have either ITV 1 SD/HD.... but I did put in the East Anglia card first so perhaps a power cycle is needed and start over.


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  • #102
    gtg60
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭gtg60


    Remember to have the correct ITV regions saved in 'Other Channels' or it doesn't work.


  • #103
    HomerS
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 ✭HomerS


    Does anyone know if NorthWest region work?


  • #104
    MBSnr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭MBSnr


    MBSnr wrote: »
    Hmmm I might look/try again but I didn't have either ITV 1 SD/HD.... but I did put in the East Anglia card first so perhaps a power cycle is needed and start over.

    OK - Anglia region uses an encrypted version of ITV SD/HD so they can't be added and viewed. My bad on the London card - it gave me ITV SD (I'd not added it to "other channels"), but whatever combination I try, ITV HD won't appear on the EPG. Not to worry though - at least I can still watch it in "other channels". Still I have BBC1 Lon/BBC 2 Eng/ITV1-4 /Ch5/BBC News. Not too bad considering!


  • #105
    200motels
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭200motels


    There's a few ITV HD'S when you try a tune them in, try tune all of them in.


  • #106
    celj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 409 ✭✭celj


    HomerS wrote: »
    Does anyone know if NorthWest region work?

    I have a North West card(Granada)and it won't give me Channel 5.(Well it will but I can't watch it!)


  • #107
    maxg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    johnire wrote: »
    Hi all.
    Just came across this thread and find it really interesting.
    I have UTV and Channel 5 set up as other channels and obviously this means I cant record anything ....but would really love to have that facility.
    I know that what Im asking here has already been answered in previous replies but Im going to be a pain and ask again!!
    I have 2 Sky+ boxes for different rooms in the house but since I got Sky installed I have never had either box plugged into the phone line.
    If I do go down the route of what the other posts suggest does this mean I would have to apply for 2 UK FTV cards?
    If I did get them do you think by ringing Sky to get them activated I will just be highlighting the fact that I dont have the boxes connected to a phone line?
    Also just a bit confused as to what exactly you end up with if all went well....are these extra channels just inserted into the channell list?
    Thanks!!

    If you own 2 boxes with irish subscriptions cards you need temporarily 1 UK FTV card for playing the game as describt in this thread. A UK FTV card doesn't need to be married to a box for working. Only for the first time activation you need to give sky the details for a box. After that the card is working in every sky box. Beside that for a FTV card there is no phone line needed.


  • #108
    Dymo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭Dymo


    Can anyone confirm getting this to work on a Sky+ box, I got it working on 3 HD boxes no problem but can't get it to work on the Sky+ boxes


  • #109
    DigiDec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭DigiDec


    Doesn't work on a sky+ box, has to be a newer HD box.


  • #110
    dooleykk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 ✭dooleykk


    This will work on all HD boxes, right? And all you need is to put in a UK FTV card one time? So I can borrow a card from someone who has one and give it back, and this should stick for me? Or if I plug the box out am I back to square one (default)?


  • #111
    DigiDec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭DigiDec


    Doesn't work on the old Thomson HD boxes and if you pull the plug you are back to defauld Irish EPG so you will need to go through the process again to get both Irish and UK EPG togather.


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  • #112
    dooleykk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 ✭dooleykk


    Thanks. So I need to get hold of a UK FTV card then, cheers.....


  • #113
    DigiDec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭DigiDec


    Yeah, it would be easier to have your own one so you don't have to borrow one each time you need to repeat the process.


  • #114
    dooleykk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 ✭dooleykk


    Thanks again. I know there was a thread on here about how people in the ROI can get their hands on a UK FTV card but I can't locate it now. Can anyone direct me to the link pls?


  • #115
    DigiDec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭DigiDec


    Go to the first post on page 1 of this thread, the link to that thread is there.


  • #116
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,349 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    I'm slow to close the thread. The number of Free-to-View on Sky (channels encrpyted by VideoGuard, but merely requiring a Sky viewing card of any description - including an expired one - to view) is down to Pick TV, 5*, and 5USA now (have I missed any?). Of these, Pick TV is available in ROI anyway to Sky subscribers. The main purpose of the FTV card scheme now seems to be to ensure Freesat from Sky viewers in the UK get the "right" EPG for their region. The channels themselves (with the exception of 5*/5USA) are available in ROI through manual tuning.

    So really, the only channels these cards allow ROI viewers to view that they shouldn't be viewing, are 5* and 5USA.

    Now despite this I'm open to further views as to whether this thread should be closed. I'd rather the OP had not linked to the thread I previously closed. I realise that I did not delete that thread.

    But for now the ruling is this: there will be no further discussion on how to OBTAIN a FTV card in the ROI. The link in the OP will be deleted. This thread will be left here. It will not be stickied. Anyone who already has a FTV card will be free to discuss using this trick.


  • #117
    galtee boy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭galtee boy


    icdg wrote: »
    I'm slow to close the thread. The number of Free-to-View on Sky (channels encrpyted by VideoGuard, but merely requiring a Sky viewing card of any description - including an expired one - to view) is down to Pick TV, 5*, and 5USA now (have I missed any?). Of these, Pick TV is available in ROI anyway to Sky subscribers. The main purpose of the FTV card scheme now seems to be to ensure Freesat from Sky viewers in the UK get the "right" EPG for their region. The channels themselves (with the exception of 5*/5USA) are available in ROI through manual tuning.

    So really, the only channels these cards allow ROI viewers to view that they shouldn't be viewing, are 5* and 5USA.

    Now despite this I'm open to further views as to whether this thread should be closed. I'd rather the OP had not linked to the thread I previously closed. I realise that I did not delete that thread.

    But for now the ruling is this: there will be no further discussion on how to OBTAIN a FTV card in the ROI. The link in the OP will be deleted. This thread will be left here. It will not be stickied. Anyone who already has a FTV card will be free to discuss using this trick.

    The issue about this thread isn't the obtaining of Sky FTV cards in ROI and what channels a FTV card will or won't give access to, but the ability to at least partially "merge" the UK Epg with the ROI Epg. As I previously posted, it is a little gem of a software glitch and I just think that the less publicity we give it from now on, the more chance we may have that it will get forgotten about and prevent the likes of TV3 etc complaining to Sky and forcing them to correct the software. If the thread was stickied or "hidden" in another thread, it would help.


  • #118
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,349 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    That's an angle I cannot really look at it from. You're effectively asking me to stop debate on the basis "because Sky might find out". Chances are they already know.

    There's no issue with the "trick" per se in my view, its a bug in Sky's software and its up to them to fix it.

    What's banned is discussing ways of circumventing conditional access systems. The "trick" doesn't fall into this category. Discussing how to obtain FTV cards in ROI does. Hence why you can't discuss it here.

    As usual, further moderation related correspondance should be via PM and not on thread.


  • #119
    galtee boy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭galtee boy


    icdg wrote: »
    That's an angle I cannot really look at it from. You're effectively asking me to stop debate on the basis "because Sky might find out". Chances are they already know.

    There's no issue with the "trick" per se in my view, its a bug in Sky's software and its up to them to fix it.

    What's banned is discussing ways of circumventing conditional access systems. The "trick" doesn't fall into this category. Discussing how to obtain FTV cards in ROI does. Hence why you can't discuss it here.

    As usual, further moderation related correspondance should be via PM and not on thread.

    Ok, point taken. Let the "trick" last as long as it will. I have a Humax Foxsat to fall back on anyway, it's just the novelty of having them on the Irish Sky Epg. Most people here who have FTV cards are using them in a second box, and have all these channels on a UK Epg anyway, so I suppose we're all fretting over nothing !


  • #120
    pbarr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 824 ✭✭✭pbarr


    p.oconnor wrote: »
    lads this sounds very good, can the cards be still ordered from Ireland, does anyone no?

    See here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055800625


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  • #121
    Ruby_Woo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 259 ✭✭Ruby_Woo


    Stupid question but what number is Channel 5 on Sky? I think I have it tuned in with the frequencies I got on this forum but I can't find it on the Sky epg?


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