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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    later10 wrote: »
    I would say it's a cowardly card if some bird is getting beaten or a guy doesn't step in if one of his friends is taking a hammering off some lowlife - but generally these genuine situations are extremely rare.

    I would agree that its cowardly. But as for friends not stepping in? Happens all the time. Just to different people. Its not rare. Just rare in the sense of an individuals life.
    later10 wrote: »
    It's not that violence is never the answer, it's that it's so rarely the correct answer that it's really far down the list of answers. I've never been involved in violence because it's never been the next available response. For far too many guys, it's right on the top of the list.

    Dont confuse being sensible with cowardly. Its sensible to walk away knowing if a fight did happen ... you aint facing 1. But at the same time cowards make so many excuses. Often using sensible excuses.


    Simple fact, IMO, theres a line. usually that line is drawn where self respect starts. Not to be confused with sensible thinking etc. But where something is done that totally crosses a line... If a person walks away from that they are a coward. Simple as. Despite what hard talk they may say.
    Its all situational. As all of life is. A sensible person will say it depends, a coward will say walk away from everything. Thats the difference.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭jefreywithonef


    I was in a fight once. I didn't initiate it or anything, the other lad did that by cracking a stick over my head and squaring up to me before I had any chance of diffusing the situation. The fight was an awfully one-sided affair since I proved to be a useless fighter, connecting only one punch (which was more of a desperate clobber) and receiving countless blows. I recall trying to save some face by making the crushing observation that he had some runaway snot on his face but I don't think it really helped much.

    If only I had have taken later10's advice in dishing out the long syllables and declared that a laughable quantity of mucus had been discharged from his proboscis and had thus tainted his otherwise meritorious efficiency at fisticuffs. That would have definitely tipped the balance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Was a night porter so walking to work as drunks fell around Eyre Sq

    Saw some guy push his girlfriend over so I stepped in to help her up and cool heads
    .......then they both turned on me
    "Ya startin on ma fella???"

    Fook that, I walked away. And maybe she took a beating from her boyfriend later but realy, they deserve each other

    Asking around friends this seems to happen often.
    You step in between a couple and even if the girl is getting beat, they'll both turn on you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    mikemac wrote: »
    Was a night porter so walking to work as drunks fell around Eyre Sq

    Saw some guy push his girlfriend over so I stepped in to help her up and cool heads
    .......then they both turned on me
    "Ya startin on ma fella???"

    Fook that, I walked away. And maybe she took a beating from her boyfriend later but realy, they deserve each other

    Asking around friends this seems to happen often.
    You step in between a couple and even if the girl is getting beat, they'll both turn on you

    Bitches be crazy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Topper Harley


    Walk away. Not worth the hospital bills/court case. (depending the outcome)

    I had some wanker starting on me for no proper reason. He was arguing with someone and afterward their argument I spoke to the other guy. This meant I was the enemy. But despite the fact that he was much bigger than me, I stood my ground ... because his mate and a security guard were holding him back.

    Anyways, a short time later, after I thought he'd calmed down, he follows me up the road. When I heard him shouting at me I just kept walking. Bad idea. He ran up behind me and caught me perfectly with a flying headbutt just as I turned around and then threw in a couple of kicks to the head for good measure.

    Broken nose and cheeckbone and blood everywhere. Not fun, but at least the health insurance took care of the hospital bills.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 688 ✭✭✭lalee17


    I normally ignore the dicks..

    But if I was in a bad mood I'd probably give one a punch or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,555 ✭✭✭Gillington


    later10 wrote: »
    Is that supposed to mean that fighting is 'big'? I've never taken part in a physical fight in my life, that's something I was brought up to be proud of, not ashamed.

    If a guy can talk his way out of physical aggression, using his intelligence, good for him.

    Not questioning the different way we were brought up,frankly I dont agree with the way I was taught but I had bullies for years, my stepdad always told me to stand up to them, I didnt agree for a few years but when I did stand up to them, fair enough I got beat but I gave as good as I got, they never touched me again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 810 ✭✭✭gonedrinking


    Just pretend you're having a heart attack. If necessary wait until you are being carted off in an ambulance before having your miraculous recovery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭B_Fanatic


    Another pro tip: Never expect anyone to jump in and help you even if there your long time friends and there is A LOT of them. I guy was chasing someone I know with a metal pogo stick, and me being unable to throw a punch, simply stepped in front of him. Got a punch to the face. At this stage there were like a dozen people I knew standing there... To be fair there was two of them and most of my friends there were 16/17 whereas the scumbags were 20 - 25. Anyway, while on the ground I got a kick to the face. Still nothing.
    Gillington wrote: »
    Not questioning the different way we were brought up,frankly I dont agree with the way I was taught but I had bullies for years, my stepdad always told me to stand up to them, I didnt agree for a few years but when I did stand up to them, fair enough I got beat but I gave as good as I got, they never touched me again

    Same here. I never had to put up with their **** again. I threw the punch in third year (Got bet later) and even in sixth year all I got was respect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,646 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    B_Fanatic wrote: »
    Another pro tip: Never expect anyone to jump in and help you even if there your long time friends and there is A LOT of them. I guy was chasing someone I know with a metal pogo stick, and me being unable to throw a punch, simply stepped in front of him. Got a punch to the face. At this stage there were like a dozen people I knew standing there... To be fair there was two of them and most of my friends there were 16/17 whereas the scumbags were 20 - 25. Anyway, while on the ground I got a kick to the face. Still nothing.

    Dude, get better friends!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Gillington wrote: »
    Not questioning the different way we were brought up,frankly I dont agree with the way I was taught but I had bullies for years, my stepdad always told me to stand up to them, I didnt agree for a few years but when I did stand up to them, fair enough I got beat but I gave as good as I got, they never touched me again

    So true, got a right rough time with some bullying ****er and one day snapped and gave him a few lamps with a hurl. People can only go so far and one day you snap
    Never a bother again

    It's fine to be noble and proud like later10 but gotta be done with bullies, they understand only one thing.
    Even if you lose it's worth it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Nemanja91


    If it was over something stupid I'd try play if down and diffuse it but if there was something serious that happened just lay into them. If someone hits you, hit them back. That's how I was brought up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭Seloth


    This known scumbag in my town actually did this to my friend...

    So a few words were exchanged and he said I'll deck ya,so my friend was like ok and started walking up to him.The knacker replied Ya startin ya startin! and My friend replied ya.

    Honest the god this eejit said "Two seconds so while I call da bais!"

    ...RETARD!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Depends. If I've been drinking he'll be getting a headbutt fairly quickly. If I'm sober I usually freeze until I've been hit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    Just pretend you're having a heart attack. If necessary wait until you are being carted off in an ambulance before having your miraculous recovery.

    That sounds like a pretty, pretty good idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    I had this on Friday in work. Had to stop 2 guys coming in, in their 40s. Then they started telling me calmly that I shouldn't have stopped them, that they were gonna bite me, stab me and give me aids. One guy had a coat over his arm and his hand in the Pocket.
    I managed to talk them down but was seriously shook. These weren't hopped up kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    Like most I'll bend over backwards to avoid confrontation, but if they hit me and I'm confident I can take them and won't ever see them again I'll hit them back. That's only ever happened once in my adult life though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭Mully_2011


    Walk away or if that doesn't work knock ten shades of **** outta them before they get a chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Generally not a violent person, I talk me way out of (and into) most situations.

    But there on Friday, I was a friend of a friends birthday. I was standing near the bar, chatting to a couple of people, herself was perched on a stool at the bar, with some lad chatting to her.

    I heard something, and I turned round, and he threw the head at me! Barely landed it though, was the lightest touch, and I looked quizzically at him, thinking he fell or something. Then he goes and shoves herself off the chair, and goes to go forward again. Herself just lifts herself up, and throws a beautiful punch, and knocks the **** backwards!

    At this stage, I'd lost it, and was going for him, only people were holding me back, and one of my friends had gotten inbetween us, and lifted yer man back by the neck telling him to calm down, and **** off. Which he does.

    Still not entirely sure why it happened, think he was chancing his arm with her, and she pointed me out as her fiance, and he thought he was going to be the big man, bust the slightly smaller guy (me) and win the knickers off her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Fremen


    *Waits for one of the MMA homos to show up and tell us all how much ass they kick*


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    only really had to stand up for mesen once, I was 15/16 some guy started on me took me to the ground and i fooked his **** up knocked his teeth out,

    I have been in many scrapes but not for mesen, the 1 thing I detest is someone trying to belittle my friends or family, coming up to them and trying to pick a fight because they look weak,

    this is the time I will explode and if he can not take me out he is in big fooking trouble,

    once I seen a guy getting a kicking by about 10 guys his girl friend was screaming at them to leave him alone, now I dont know why but it was just impluse and I jumped into the middle of them pulling them off him,

    I proceeded to ask them to back the fook up 10 on 1 is not cool, for some reason they did, they guy on the ground turned out to be a neighbour we are good mates to this day,

    he can handle himself no probs and could then, he was just afraid his misses would get a few up sides the head,

    I dont give a fook how big you are but if you start on my friends I will bite your fooking face off, in saying that if you start on me I tend to try to get out of it or walk away,

    hit me and expect the worse, but this has never happened me to date in my 40+ yrs, omiting my 1st experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭blaze1


    Fremen wrote: »
    *Waits for one of the MMA homos to show up and tell us all how much ass they kick*

    Sounds like your looking for trouble...

    Just because someone does MMA/boxing or any other martial art it doesnt mean they walk around town looking for fights at every given opportunity...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 525 ✭✭✭elchupanebrey


    From a womans point of view I had to diffuse a fight with someone well able to kick seven shades of cack out of me.

    Typical scenario in a nightclub slightly inebriated passing this excuse for a lady on the steps (she was sitting on the steps blocking everyone) and I accidentally trip on top of this crazy woman. She jumps up and puffs out her manly chest and starts ripping into to me. I just smile and say oh god Im so sorry. Anyhow she start shaping up to me f**king and blinding at me so I just keep saying how sorry I am and guess what it worked.

    However about 10 minutes later I had to use the ladies and guess who I bump right into next in the queue crazy fighting woman so I did what any self respecting lady would do legged it.

    So your username is ironic then...:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,234 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    It has happened to me a few times and what i've done each time is put my hands in my pocket and say to them that i'm not going to fight like some knacker and that if they want to take the cowardly approach and hit someone with their hands in their pockets then go ahead. It worked every time except once when the cowardly prick actually hit me and ran, but i caught him and knocked fcuk out of him. They all happened years ago, i dont think i'd even entertain anyone anymore and simply walk away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,077 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    I just follow Homer Simpson's advice,


    Bart: Remember when Tom had you in that headlock and you screamed, "I'm a hemophiliac!," and when he let you go, you kicked him in the back?
    Homer: Yeah.
    Bart: Will you teach me how to do that?
    Homer: Sure, boy. First, you gotta shriek like a woman and keep sobbing until he turns away in disgust. That's when it's time to kick some back. And then when he's lying down on the ground,...
    Bart: Yeah.
    Homer: Kick him in the ribs.
    Bart: Yeah.
    Homer: Step on his neck.
    Bart: Yeah.
    Homer: And run like hell.
     


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭MonTheBiffy


    Seems the general consensus is you would avoid as long as possible until somebody really fails to get the picture. I would still be very apprehensive of fighting back because in my experience anyone would gets aggressive usually has 3-4 at least scumbag friends with him and you'd end up out numbered


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    Depending on what the person wants to pick a fight about then I would just walk away or just be calm and logical about it and talk calmly to the person and apologise for any reason for them to be upset and wanting a fight. I'd just ignore them and move on. Walk away, best thing anyone could do even though you be seen as a coward and walked all over it's better than having to deal with a fist fight that shouldn't happen! I don't care for act of violence its not worth it. If they want to get thick with me they can just shout at me I have no problems with that, if they want a fight then I'd let them fight with the nearest wall or pole! They obviously be fairly steamed up so why bother. I rather make peace...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,085 ✭✭✭irelandspurs


    Start crying shouting mammy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Zen65


    later10 wrote: »
    I could be wrong I've just often noticed that as a troublemaker comes closer to throwing a punch, his syllables become shorter.

    This is a classic indicator of an imminent attack, as the adrenaline rush is reducing the blood supply to his higher-level brain functions. There are some vary good videos & books by Geoff Thompson dealing with this aspect of self-defence, and in particular how to recognise the moment just before an attack happens.

    The best advice (not cowardly, just very sensible) is always to avoid physical confrontation no matter how much goading is taking place, but not to wait until you've been hit before you hit back. Recognise the moment before the attack happens and then attack pre-emptively. Far easier said than done, of course.

    Most importantly, never hang about to allow it to kick off again. You may survive one attempted assault, but the next attempt will be far more serious (more assailants, greater level of violence). Life is not like the movies, the bad guys don't attack one-at-a-time.

    Be at peace,

    Z


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Zen65


    Just pretend you're having a heart attack. If necessary wait until you are being carted off in an ambulance before having your miraculous recovery.

    Perhaps this would work if you are over a certain age. It's unlikely to work if you're in your early 20's ..... I suspect :)

    Be at peace,

    Z


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