Ya startin'?!

MonTheBiffy

What would you, After Hourites, do in a situation when someone wants to fight you?

I think most have been there, some ass clown gets thick over nothing. How would you react? Try diffuse the situation or lamp the c**t?

War stories welcome

EDIT: Okay I'm also gonna add what would you do if someone hit you? Just to add a little intrigue

joshrogan

If there is no way out of the situation kick them in the nuts and run like fcuk!

starviewadams

Walk away,not worth the hassle,concussion or €3000 for a new tooth.

later12

stand firm, look him in the eye and start using long syllables - muppets react to monosyllables, long syllables cools them and possibly confuses them.

The only time I have ever been punched there were no words uttered. Any time I have ever been close to being punched, using long syllables has helped.

Also, use a lot of open handed gestures, like you're holding a bowl of fruit in front of your heart - my brother told me this trick years ago (we seem to be a family that people want to punch) and it works, I think. It portrays honesty and frankness, without being defensive or aggressive.

longshanks

There were times when i stayed and fought, won some of those, lost some of those, and then there were times when I ran.
A bruised ego beats a battered face. Most of the time

BOHtox

Ya startin'?

Nah, I'm finishing!!!
* Kills the bad guy and upside down kisses with Mary Jane!

CardBordWindow

Walk away. Not worth the hospital bills/court case. (depending the outcome)

LighterGuy

MonTheBiffy wrote: »

What would you, After Hourites, do in a situation when someone wants to fight you?

The simple fact is the majority of people on this board will try to talk their way out of a fight .. while acting big later afterwards. Despite what replies you will recieve in this thread. Its the above.

daniels.ducks

Depends on the situation... GAA match = Lamp him... Anywhere else = diffuse the situation.

You can't get into too much trouble on the GAA pitch

KeithM89_old

Fetal position works best.

Links234

run for it

later12

LighterGuy wrote: »

The simple fact is the majority of people on this board will try to talk their way out of a fight .. while acting big later afterwards.

Is that supposed to mean that fighting is 'big'? I've never taken part in a physical fight in my life, that's something I was brought up to be proud of, not ashamed.

If a guy can talk his way out of physical aggression, using his intelligence, good for him.

starviewadams

later10 wrote: »

Is that supposed to mean that fighting is 'big'? I've never taken part in a physical fight in my life, that's something I was brought up to be proud of, not ashamed.

If a guy can talk his way out of physical aggression, using his intelligence, good for him.

True enough!

MrStuffins

Anyone who thinks you're less of a "man" for not getting into a fist fight with someone who wants one belongs back on the playground!

Larianne

MonTheBiffy wrote: »

What would you, After Hourites, do in a situation when someone wants to fight you?

I think most have been there, some ass clown gets thick over nothing. How would you react? Try diffuse the situation or lamp the c**t?

War stories welcome

EDIT: Okay I'm also gonna add what would you do if someone hit you? Just to add a little intrigue

I got whacked in the face and my hair pulled at the bus stop by a junkie/drunk (couldn't tell which) a few months back. I just walked away.

Can't see why hitting her back or punching her would do any good.

MonTheBiffy

MrStuffins wrote: »

Anyone who thinks you're less of a "man" for not getting into a fist fight with someone who wants one belongs back on the playground!

Batterin' kids! :pac:

LighterGuy

later10 wrote: »

Is that supposed to mean that fighting is 'big'? I've never taken part in a physical fight in my life, that's something I was brought up to be proud of, not ashamed.

If a guy can talk his way out of physical aggression, using his intelligence, good for him.

It depends on the situation tho. But you are generally right. Most things are not worth it and its better to walk away from. However, there are some things you have to stand your ground and fight.

Most cowards hide behind "violence is never the answer". They play the "sensible minded" card. While in reality, holding the cowardly card.

thisiswar

I never fight,
bar this one time last xmas when i was on a 3 day bender back in Galway.
Polished off a bottle of Jager and went down to Supermacs around 11pm.
There was 3 knacks inside and I asked them to step outside with me.
They kicked the dong outta me, i got what was comin to me.
Lesson learned.

Saila

say oh look free yokes!
then deck him when he looks

LETHAL LADY

From a womans point of view I had to diffuse a fight with someone well able to kick seven shades of cack out of me.

Typical scenario in a nightclub slightly inebriated passing this excuse for a lady on the steps (she was sitting on the steps blocking everyone) and I accidentally trip on top of this crazy woman. She jumps up and puffs out her manly chest and starts ripping into to me. I just smile and say oh god Im so sorry. Anyhow she start shaping up to me f**king and blinding at me so I just keep saying how sorry I am and guess what it worked.

However about 10 minutes later I had to use the ladies and guess who I bump right into next in the queue crazy fighting woman so I did what any self respecting lady would do legged it.

ciano1

Chances are that the person that want's to fight you is a scumbag with a low IQ.
Say something intelligent to confuse them and walk away when they are busy trying to understand what you just said! :P

epgc3fyqirnbsx

Show fear and you get a kickin'
I've been in that situation loads of times and 90% of the time if you stand your ground with shoulders back and look them in the eye and dispute everything they say, they'll end up walking away cos they see you aren't a pushover. They wont risk hitting you cos there's a good chance you could hit them back and make them look stupid, and these f*ckwits tend to be posturing anyway and would never risk looking small

If someone hits you, depends on the situation reakky, might be best to get the f*ck out of there or migt be better to land a good shot

This sh*t really doesn't happen once you hit your later twenties in my experience

epgc3fyqirnbsx

Or you could take all your clothes off. No one wants to grapple with a naked dude

sidneykidney

In my line of work you do get a few idiots trying to start a row/fight over nothing. In work I deal with it by most times walking away, they get the message.

If I am out for a drink and some idiots starts for no reason I just ignore them, all they want is a reaction, and that is not something they will get from me

MonTheBiffy

Julieta Alive Robin wrote: »

This sh*t really doesn't happen once you hit your later twenties in my experience

I suppose thats because you don't generally be in the situation where it can happen i.e drunk around a club etc.

I'd tend to agree with the stand your ground thing. Just never instigate any violence. If you do you won't have a leg to stand on

later12

LighterGuy wrote: »

Most cowards hide behind "violence is never the answer". They play the "sensible minded" card. While in reality, holding the cowardly card.

I would say it's a cowardly card if some bird is getting beaten or a guy doesn't step in if one of his friends is taking a hammering off some lowlife - but generally these genuine situations are extremely rare.

It's not that violence is never the answer, it's that it's so rarely the correct answer that it's really far down the list of answers. I've never been involved in violence because it's never been the next available response. For far too many guys, it's right on the top of the list.

For what you have written above, it would be far more true, in my opinion, to say:

Most idiots hide behind "violence is the answer". They play the "sensible minded" card. While in reality, holding the idiotic card.

leggo

later10 wrote: »

stand firm, look him in the eye and start using long syllables - muppets react to monosyllables, long syllables cools them and possibly confuses them.

As a security guard, by day, using long syllables against your average, everyday skanger would more than likely wind him up as its giving off the impression you're trying to patronise him. You're making him feel insignificant by talking above his level. That's only going to create, not diffuse, any conflict.

You're dead on about eye contact and open hand gestures, though.

MonTheBiffy

*God damn it I can never get the links right*

later12

leggo wrote: »

As a security guard, by day, using long syllables against your average, everyday skanger would more than likely wind him up as its giving off the impression you're trying to patronise him.

Oh yeah, I don't mean ridiculously long words, just not monosyllabic words like "No', 'Yah', 'Shut it', and so on, as opposed to 'Maybe' or 'okay relax' (ok the meaning of the words matters there, so these could be bad examples). I could be wrong I've just often noticed that as a troublemaker comes closer to throwing a punch, his syllables become shorter.

recylingbin

I would be all like Godzilla and he would totally be Japan.

MrStuffins

recylingbin wrote: »

I would be all like Godzilla and he would totally be Japan.

Too soon dude, too soon!

LighterGuy

later10 wrote: »

I would say it's a cowardly card if some bird is getting beaten or a guy doesn't step in if one of his friends is taking a hammering off some lowlife - but generally these genuine situations are extremely rare.

I would agree that its cowardly. But as for friends not stepping in? Happens all the time. Just to different people. Its not rare. Just rare in the sense of an individuals life.

later10 wrote: »

It's not that violence is never the answer, it's that it's so rarely the correct answer that it's really far down the list of answers. I've never been involved in violence because it's never been the next available response. For far too many guys, it's right on the top of the list.

Dont confuse being sensible with cowardly. Its sensible to walk away knowing if a fight did happen ... you aint facing 1. But at the same time cowards make so many excuses. Often using sensible excuses.


Simple fact, IMO, theres a line. usually that line is drawn where self respect starts. Not to be confused with sensible thinking etc. But where something is done that totally crosses a line... If a person walks away from that they are a coward. Simple as. Despite what hard talk they may say.
Its all situational. As all of life is. A sensible person will say it depends, a coward will say walk away from everything. Thats the difference.

jefreywithonef

I was in a fight once. I didn't initiate it or anything, the other lad did that by cracking a stick over my head and squaring up to me before I had any chance of diffusing the situation. The fight was an awfully one-sided affair since I proved to be a useless fighter, connecting only one punch (which was more of a desperate clobber) and receiving countless blows. I recall trying to save some face by making the crushing observation that he had some runaway snot on his face but I don't think it really helped much.

If only I had have taken later10's advice in dishing out the long syllables and declared that a laughable quantity of mucus had been discharged from his proboscis and had thus tainted his otherwise meritorious efficiency at fisticuffs. That would have definitely tipped the balance.

mikemac

Was a night porter so walking to work as drunks fell around Eyre Sq

Saw some guy push his girlfriend over so I stepped in to help her up and cool heads
.......then they both turned on me
"Ya startin on ma fella???"

Fook that, I walked away. And maybe she took a beating from her boyfriend later but realy, they deserve each other

Asking around friends this seems to happen often.
You step in between a couple and even if the girl is getting beat, they'll both turn on you

Gummy Panda

mikemac wrote: »

Was a night porter so walking to work as drunks fell around Eyre Sq

Saw some guy push his girlfriend over so I stepped in to help her up and cool heads
.......then they both turned on me
"Ya startin on ma fella???"

Fook that, I walked away. And maybe she took a beating from her boyfriend later but realy, they deserve each other

Asking around friends this seems to happen often.
You step in between a couple and even if the girl is getting beat, they'll both turn on you

Bitches be crazy

Topper Harley

CardBordWindow wrote: »

Walk away. Not worth the hospital bills/court case. (depending the outcome)

I had some wanker starting on me for no proper reason. He was arguing with someone and afterward their argument I spoke to the other guy. This meant I was the enemy. But despite the fact that he was much bigger than me, I stood my ground ... because his mate and a security guard were holding him back.

Anyways, a short time later, after I thought he'd calmed down, he follows me up the road. When I heard him shouting at me I just kept walking. Bad idea. He ran up behind me and caught me perfectly with a flying headbutt just as I turned around and then threw in a couple of kicks to the head for good measure.

Broken nose and cheeckbone and blood everywhere. Not fun, but at least the health insurance took care of the hospital bills.

lalee17

I normally ignore the dicks..

But if I was in a bad mood I'd probably give one a punch or something.

Gillington

later10 wrote: »

Is that supposed to mean that fighting is 'big'? I've never taken part in a physical fight in my life, that's something I was brought up to be proud of, not ashamed.

If a guy can talk his way out of physical aggression, using his intelligence, good for him.

Not questioning the different way we were brought up,frankly I dont agree with the way I was taught but I had bullies for years, my stepdad always told me to stand up to them, I didnt agree for a few years but when I did stand up to them, fair enough I got beat but I gave as good as I got, they never touched me again

gonedrinking

Just pretend you're having a heart attack. If necessary wait until you are being carted off in an ambulance before having your miraculous recovery.

B_Fanatic

Another pro tip: Never expect anyone to jump in and help you even if there your long time friends and there is A LOT of them. I guy was chasing someone I know with a metal pogo stick, and me being unable to throw a punch, simply stepped in front of him. Got a punch to the face. At this stage there were like a dozen people I knew standing there... To be fair there was two of them and most of my friends there were 16/17 whereas the scumbags were 20 - 25. Anyway, while on the ground I got a kick to the face. Still nothing.

Gillington wrote: »

Not questioning the different way we were brought up,frankly I dont agree with the way I was taught but I had bullies for years, my stepdad always told me to stand up to them, I didnt agree for a few years but when I did stand up to them, fair enough I got beat but I gave as good as I got, they never touched me again

Same here. I never had to put up with their **** again. I threw the punch in third year (Got bet later) and even in sixth year all I got was respect.

MrStuffins

B_Fanatic wrote: »

Another pro tip: Never expect anyone to jump in and help you even if there your long time friends and there is A LOT of them. I guy was chasing someone I know with a metal pogo stick, and me being unable to throw a punch, simply stepped in front of him. Got a punch to the face. At this stage there were like a dozen people I knew standing there... To be fair there was two of them and most of my friends there were 16/17 whereas the scumbags were 20 - 25. Anyway, while on the ground I got a kick to the face. Still nothing.

Dude, get better friends!

mikemac

Gillington wrote: »

Not questioning the different way we were brought up,frankly I dont agree with the way I was taught but I had bullies for years, my stepdad always told me to stand up to them, I didnt agree for a few years but when I did stand up to them, fair enough I got beat but I gave as good as I got, they never touched me again

So true, got a right rough time with some bullying ****er and one day snapped and gave him a few lamps with a hurl. People can only go so far and one day you snap
Never a bother again

It's fine to be noble and proud like later10 but gotta be done with bullies, they understand only one thing.
Even if you lose it's worth it

Nemanja91

If it was over something stupid I'd try play if down and diffuse it but if there was something serious that happened just lay into them. If someone hits you, hit them back. That's how I was brought up.

Seloth

This known scumbag in my town actually did this to my friend...

So a few words were exchanged and he said I'll deck ya,so my friend was like ok and started walking up to him.The knacker replied Ya startin ya startin! and My friend replied ya.

Honest the god this eejit said "Two seconds so while I call da bais!"

...RETARD!

pragmatic1

Depends. If I've been drinking he'll be getting a headbutt fairly quickly. If I'm sober I usually freeze until I've been hit.

ColeTrain

gonedrinking wrote: »

Just pretend you're having a heart attack. If necessary wait until you are being carted off in an ambulance before having your miraculous recovery.

That sounds like a pretty, pretty good idea.

6th

I had this on Friday in work. Had to stop 2 guys coming in, in their 40s. Then they started telling me calmly that I shouldn't have stopped them, that they were gonna bite me, stab me and give me aids. One guy had a coat over his arm and his hand in the Pocket.
I managed to talk them down but was seriously shook. These weren't hopped up kids.

Sea Sharp

Like most I'll bend over backwards to avoid confrontation, but if they hit me and I'm confident I can take them and won't ever see them again I'll hit them back. That's only ever happened once in my adult life though.

Mully_2011

Walk away or if that doesn't work knock ten shades of **** outta them before they get a chance.

Sofiztikated

Generally not a violent person, I talk me way out of (and into) most situations.

But there on Friday, I was a friend of a friends birthday. I was standing near the bar, chatting to a couple of people, herself was perched on a stool at the bar, with some lad chatting to her.

I heard something, and I turned round, and he threw the head at me! Barely landed it though, was the lightest touch, and I looked quizzically at him, thinking he fell or something. Then he goes and shoves herself off the chair, and goes to go forward again. Herself just lifts herself up, and throws a beautiful punch, and knocks the **** backwards!

At this stage, I'd lost it, and was going for him, only people were holding me back, and one of my friends had gotten inbetween us, and lifted yer man back by the neck telling him to calm down, and **** off. Which he does.

Still not entirely sure why it happened, think he was chancing his arm with her, and she pointed me out as her fiance, and he thought he was going to be the big man, bust the slightly smaller guy (me) and win the knickers off her.

Fremen

*Waits for one of the MMA homos to show up and tell us all how much ass they kick*