No proper shopping centers in Ireland!

IrishEyes19 · 13-08-2011 03:06PM

inkwell wrote: »

I dont know any poor people around me and I know people from all sort of backgrounds...you should appreciate what you have here and stop complaining.

Is this a geniune question about shopping centres or a dig at people complaining. Im confused :rolleyes:

As for poor people. Jesus, walk down any of the big towns, cities streets during the night and you'll see homeless people. Walk into any village, town, and you'll see families who have lost their jobs, surviving on one income and in some cases, none. Single parents trying to raise kids, pay school bills, suirvive in general and then on top of it, keep up with all the raising taxes coming into play.

STOP COMPLAINING??? Why should we? Very greedy people made a huge mess of this country's finances and because of it, hardworking people are suffering. Complain all you like, folks. Whoever said, money isnt the key to happiness has a point, but for christ sake, having none makes it a whole lot more complicated when you have a family to raise.

PS: Dublin has some nice shopping centres. You should go there. :rolleyes:

wolf moon · 13-08-2011 03:14PM

inkwell wrote: »

I simply dont understand.

There is nothing to understand in this matter - some places have shopping centres and some don't. What's the problem??

inkwell · 13-08-2011 03:22PM

wolf moon wrote: »

There is nothing to understand in this matter - some places have shopping centres and some don't. What's the problem??

It's not a problem. I was just wondering, because in a capitalist country, where is demand there should be supply and thats how econy grows.
It's not only me who is saying there is not enough shops in such a Galway, I've heard many people actually saying they have to go to shop to Dublin or London. It's just strange.

inkwell · 13-08-2011 03:30PM

flutterflye wrote: »

Just move to Dublin if you're that bothered.
Or better yet, America or London or somewhere.

I am not that bothered you know...I think I can live with that :rolleyes:, but obviously you are very bothered with "some foreigner" complaining about something whats in Ireland.
I only thought I will ask here what you think about it and straight away I hear I should move out.
I pay taxes here for almost 6 six years and maybe I have a right to say what I think -or not? In your opinion I should work and keep quiet, because if I dont like something, someone like you will tell me to go home?
There is many many things I absolutely love about Ireland and I always tell people when I can, so if you dont have anything interesting to say, just dont.

wolf moon · 13-08-2011 03:34PM

Paranoia... :rolleyes:

stevenmu · 13-08-2011 03:39PM

inkwell wrote: »

It's not a problem. I was just wondering, because in a capitalist country, where is demand there should be supply and thats how econy grows.
It's not only me who is saying there is not enough shops in such a Galway, I've heard many people actually saying they have to go to shop to Dublin or London. It's just strange.

There's plenty of shops in Galway, but for some reason people like to go somewhere else on shopping trips. People from Galway go to Dublin, people from Dublin go to New York and people from New York go to Galway.

And since all the people in Galway do their shopping in Dublin, it makes far more sense to build all the shopping centers there. That just leaves American tourists shopping in Galway which is why Galway is full of touristy shops selling tack.

It's the circle of shopping.

True story.

flutterflye · 13-08-2011 03:39PM

inkwell wrote: »

I am not that bothered you know...I think I can live with that :rolleyes:, but obviously you are very bothered with "some foreigner" complaining about something whats in Ireland.
I only thought I will ask here what you think about it and straight away I hear I should move out.
I pay taxes here for almost 6 six years and maybe I have a right to say what I think -or not? In your opinion I should work and keep quiet, because if I dont like something, someone like you will tell me to go home?
There is many many things I absolutely love about Ireland and I always tell people when I can, so if you dont have anything interesting to say, just dont.

Gawd, what's with people here reading random crap that isn't there? :rolleyes:
So from my post you got all that yeah? LOL!
Eh yeah, say what you want about Ireland.
No skin off my nose.
Can't stand it here myself!

maninasia · 13-08-2011 03:44PM

inkwell wrote: »

It's not a problem. I was just wondering, because in a capitalist country, where is demand there should be supply and thats how econy grows.
It's not only me who is saying there is not enough shops in such a Galway, I've heard many people actually saying they have to go to shop to Dublin or London. It's just strange.

Actually Inkwell Galway is pretty small although it might well justify a large shopping centre like you say to attract people from the neighbouring counties to come in and shop also.

Basically Irish people don't have experience of the type of shopping centres you talk about. The other part is that it might be difficult to get planning permission for very large shopping centres and building in Ireland and the local merchants and existing shopping centres will try to block the planning permission.

Look at the problems and delays Ikea faced in Dublin to understand the mentality more. Don't mind most of the posters here, they are very defensive like many Irish (or any locals when a foreigner questions something).

charlemont · 13-08-2011 03:52PM

Wake up and smell the coffee, lads. Have any of ye not copped it yet ??

looky loo · 13-08-2011 03:54PM

Is everyone in Galway goin around naked then?.....sorry, no sympathy for this post when there are people starving to death in the world.

Mr. CooL ICE · 13-08-2011 03:59PM

inkwell wrote: »

I am not that bothered you know...I think I can live with that :rolleyes:, but obviously you are very bothered with "some foreigner" complaining about something whats in Ireland.
I only thought I will ask here what you think about it and straight away I hear I should move out.
I pay taxes here for almost 6 six years and maybe I have a right to say what I think -or not? In your opinion I should work and keep quiet, because if I dont like something, someone like you will tell me to go home?
There is many many things I absolutely love about Ireland and I always tell people when I can, so if you dont have anything interesting to say, just dont.

Don't play the race card here buddy. Valid points have already been made.

Going by the previous facts; Population of Gdansk is 455k while Galway is 75k. Do you honestly think a shopping centre designed for a city with 455k would survive in a city with 75k? It is simple supply and demand. If there is no demand, there is no supply. That's a fundamental principle of business

Corruptedmorals · 13-08-2011 04:01PM

Thread title is misleading..Galway is tiny anyway. Plenty of shopping centres in/near Dublin that are decent- Dundrum, Liffey Valley, Blanch, Pavillions. Would be impossible to build a huge one in Galway now, would never get enough anchors and would fail- if it was allowed to be built anyway. Shopping centres are built in good times and even then often with corruption- Liffey Valley is built on brown envelopes. But you're very near Dublin for a daytrip anyway.

spurskiely · 13-08-2011 04:06PM

Gone very serious altogether from such an innocent thread .?????????

PseudoFamous · 13-08-2011 04:11PM

What sort of shops are you looking for, exactly? I've only been to Galway a handful of times, but it has everything a person could need, imo. Of course, if you're looking for high-end fashion, Ireland isn't exactly the place where you'll find it.

syklops · 13-08-2011 04:11PM

spurskiely wrote: »

Gone very serious altogether from such an innocent thread .?????????

Well the OP picked a very small part of Ireland, Galway, decided that there were no shopping centres there to his liking, and assumed thats the same case across the rest of ireland.

OP, whats wrong with Penneys? Most of my Polish friends love it, and not just because of the name.

Anyway, you can get to dublin in about 3 hours by bus now. Go there for your shopping, it is the capital.

DoneDL · 13-08-2011 04:14PM

I dislike the idea of large shopping centres as they are generally only supported by larger chain groups, real value exists in establishing and encouraging smaller local outlets providing more jobs and keeps the money within the community. I don`t think shop street is perfect but overall Galway is a good place to shop in.

DebDynamite · 13-08-2011 04:17PM

inkwell wrote: »

Why I have to go to shop to Poland? I live here and I would be happy to spend my money here. There is just nothing in Galway! No decent shop with shoes or clothes. I simply dont understand.

So, you don't like the shops in Galway, so you go to Poland to shop?

Maybe that's why no nice shops in high immigrant areas are opening up, becasue they're are sending their money back to their home countries.

13-08-2011 04:23PM

inkwell wrote: »

I am not that bothered you know...I think I can live with that :rolleyes:, but obviously you are very bothered with "some foreigner" complaining about something whats in Ireland.
I only thought I will ask here what you think about it and straight away I hear I should move out.
I pay taxes here for almost 6 six years and maybe I have a right to say what I think -or not? In your opinion I should work and keep quiet, because if I dont like something, someone like you will tell me to go home?

I really think you've misunderstood.

People aren't suggesting you move because you're "some foreigner". People are suggesting you move because you're having difficulty where you're living now. You've explained it doesn't bother you that much and that's fine, but by no means are people asking you to "move out".

You certainly have a right to say what you think, regardless of whether you're paying taxes or not. Even tourists or people who have never been to Ireland are entitled to comment on the number of shopping centres here. But obviously if you say that Galway doesn't have a shopping centre like a particular one in Poland, people will suggest you go to the one in Poland. That's just life, unhelpful comments on the internet are in no way dependent on your nationality or tax status, it's just how people are.

I don't think you should "work and keep quiet", but I don't know what response you're looking for. All anyone can do is let you know that Dublin has shopping centres, and inform you that many people go abroad to do clothes shopping when they're looking for a lot of stuff or are looking for something in particular. I know some guys who do all their clothes shopping in America (usually New York). So the suggestion for you to go abroad isn't anyone asking you to leave the country for good, it's just a suggestion that a trip abroad might be a good way of getting your year's worth of clothes shopping done, and then come back! No one was trying to make you feel unwelcome.

D1stant · 13-08-2011 04:42PM

Sulmac wrote: »

Also;

Population of Gdańsk (where the shopping centre in the OP's link is): ~1,080,700
Population of Galway: ~75,000

And perhaps its that the town planners in Galway have a brain. Even if we had the populations to justify these huge shopping centres it doesnt mean we should. Do we want to turn Ireland into the US? Local markets and industry produce better quality, more employment, sustainbable commerce and thriving town centres that are a pleasure to be in. Shopping centres fatten the bank balances of Lidl, Walmart, Tesco etc and choke the towns to death

Fuck Tesco

Sonnenblumen · 13-08-2011 04:43PM

inkwell wrote: »

Why there are no big proper shopping centers in Ireland? Maybe there is one or two in Dublin (dont know wasnt shopping there), but I live in Galway.. and two be honest its disaster here.
There is a thread about some new restaurant near some shoppig center in Galway (Tesco one) and somebody called it "the biggest in west".
I am just very surpised, because there is only Tesco, Penneys, 2eu shop, Supermacs, Eason and few other small shops.
In Poland where I come from in average city there is few centers like this one :

http://galeriabaltycka.pl/en/doc_firma_e.html

-its huge, few storey and hundreds of good brand's shops.
This all in country were average salary is 500eu per month!
I think if they would build shops like this in here they would have many customers and lots of people would get job's!
Why there is nothing like it here? Ireland is not a poor country!

If you believe the shopping is better in Poland, what are you doing here? Apart from a few out of town centres even a Carrefour (excluded from Ireland) most of the places I saw where **** holes and little money changing hands.

phasers · 13-08-2011 04:49PM

I have 4 huge ones within 20 minuites of my house OP. In fact, I can see Liffey Valley from my window.

I love Liffey Valley, thanks to whatever developer bribed planning people to get it put there (or whatever happened, I just know it was originally meant to be somewhere else)

For Forks Sake · 13-08-2011 05:00PM

www.liffeyvalley.ie
www.dundrum.ie
www.blanchardstowncentre.ie
http://www.pavilions.ie/

A day trip to Dublin should sort out your shopping centre-related needs

phasers · 13-08-2011 05:05PM

How could you all forget The Square? Finest centre in Ireland bar none :cool:

Liam Byrne · 13-08-2011 05:08PM

There's no "centers" of any sort in Ireland, because it's an American word.

Shopping Centres are a different debate.

Tails142 · 13-08-2011 05:24PM

For Forks Sake wrote: »

www.liffeyvalley.ie
www.dundrum.ie
www.blanchardstowncentre.ie
http://www.pavilions.ie/

A day trip to Dublin should sort out your shopping centre-related needs

In city centre alone you have

Jervis St Shopping Centre
Ilac Shopping Centre
St. Stephen Green Shopping Centre

Grafton Street could be considered a shopping centre as could Henry Street

Others include Omnipark in Santry, Nutgrove, Stillorgan, Northside though they are a bit smaller in scale. Someone else mentioned the Square in tallaght. There are probably a few others I havent mentioned, like Clearwater, Charlestown, Clarehall, Cornelscourt, Beacon Quarter... etc etc list goes on.

Saila · 13-08-2011 05:33PM

realies wrote: »

Anyway shopping centres are on the way out,its all being done online these days.You get shop for anything you want online, no hassle.

you clearly have no women in your life

imitation · 13-08-2011 05:37PM

Seems like the same old why isn't there a General Hospital/International Airport/Subway/Shopping center/some other facility in my small town/city story.

To be honest though, I would take Galway every time over some city with a "decent" shopping center, just spend some time in the midlands in the UK where there is nothing but miles of housing estates, industrial parks and then some sainburys/tescos/halfords. Repeat ad nausem. Getting stuff off the internet or the bus to Dublin is a small price to pay to live in an a City with a soul.

Sonnenblumen · 13-08-2011 05:57PM

phasers wrote: »

How could you all forget The Square? Finest centre in Ireland bar none :cool:

I think Phibsboro SC was built before The Square, in fact Tallaght was probably still a field when locals were enjoying their new shopping experience in Phibsboro?:D

maninasia · 13-08-2011 05:59PM

Tails142 wrote: »

In city centre alone you have

Jervis St Shopping Centre
Ilac Shopping Centre
St. Stephen Green Shopping Centre

Grafton Street could be considered a shopping centre as could Henry Street

Others include Omnipark in Santry, Nutgrove, Stillorgan, Northside though they are a bit smaller in scale. Someone else mentioned the Square in tallaght. There are probably a few others I havent mentioned, like Clearwater, Charlestown, Clarehall, Cornelscourt, Beacon Quarter... etc etc list goes on.

They are mostly on the small scale. I think the OP is talking about large malls like Blanchardstown/Liffeyvalley. Galway and the West could probably support one of them, it is a bit odd that one doesn't exist. 3 hours drive (and back 6 hours), it's not a great option is it?

The Scientician · 13-08-2011 06:05PM

the keen edge wrote: »

Population of Poland 38 million.
Population of Rep of Ireland 6 million.

Questions?.

Yeah, where did you get that figure for the population of the Republic of Ireland?

The CSO says it's about 4.5 million. The island as a whole has about 6.2 million people.

No proper shopping centers in Ireland!

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