No proper shopping centers in Ireland!

inkwell · 13-08-2011 1:01pm #1

Why there are no big proper shopping centers in Ireland? Maybe there is one or two in Dublin (dont know wasnt shopping there), but I live in Galway.. and two be honest its disaster here.
There is a thread about some new restaurant near some shoppig center in Galway (Tesco one) and somebody called it "the biggest in west".
I am just very surpised, because there is only Tesco, Penneys, 2eu shop, Supermacs, Eason and few other small shops.
In Poland where I come from in average city there is few centers like this one :

http://galeriabaltycka.pl/en/doc_firma_e.html

-its huge, few storey and hundreds of good brand's shops.
This all in country were average salary is 500eu per month!

I think if they would build shops like this in here they would have many customers and lots of people would get job's!
Why there is nothing like it here? Ireland is not a poor country!

Helix · 13-08-2011 1:04pm

inkwell wrote: »

Ireland is not a poor country!

was it comfortable under that rock for the last 3 years?

orourkeda · 13-08-2011 1:05pm

Whats wrong with supermacs

amacachi · 13-08-2011 1:06pm

inkwell wrote: »

This all in country were average salary is 500eu per month!

You answered it right there.

Phill Ewinn · 13-08-2011 1:06pm

There's laods. Go ask the West Dublin people over on the Dublin Forum

*Still paying for the ''tribunerals'' for them.

Sofa King Great · 13-08-2011 1:06pm

Eh there are empty shopping centres all over the country that cannot get retailers in to them.

Oh and I have been to Poland, I wouldn't go boasting about your infrastructure just yet....

inkwell · 13-08-2011 1:06pm

Helix wrote: »

was it comfortable under that rock for the last 3 years?

I dont know any poor people around me and I know people from all sort of backgrounds...you should appreciate what you have here and stop complaining.

Naomi00 · 13-08-2011 1:06pm

There's too many.

the keen edge · 13-08-2011 1:07pm

Population of Poland 38 million.
Population of Rep of Ireland 6 million.

Questions?.

Phill Ewinn · 13-08-2011 1:10pm

inkwell wrote: »

I dont know any poor people around me and I know people from all sort of backgrounds...you should appreciate what you have here and stop complaining.

We're being screwed over by two successive traitorous governments. We should complain, we should just get on with jailing them.

Sulmac · 13-08-2011 1:11pm

the keen edge wrote: »

Population of Poland 38 million.
Population of Rep of Ireland 6 million.

Questions?.

Also;

Population of Gdańsk (where the shopping centre in the OP's link is): ~1,080,700
Population of Galway: ~75,000

inkwell · 13-08-2011 1:13pm

the keen edge wrote: »

Population of Poland 38 million.
Population of Rep of Ireland 6 million.

Questions?.

Ok, but there is a market for sure, for at least one big shoppig center in town like Galway! I dont get it? Why I have to go to shop to Poland? I live here and I would be happy to spend my money here. There is just nothing in Galway! No decent shop with shoes or clothes. I simply dont understand. Average family here have two cars and there is nowhere to shop!

mikemac · 13-08-2011 1:16pm

Well if you don't like it here and find Poland better you know what to do.........

Head to Limerick, Crescent SC is good

Castle in the Sky · 13-08-2011 1:17pm

inkwell wrote: »

In Poland where I come from in average city there is few centers like this one :

http://galeriabaltycka.pl/en/doc_firma_e.html

Wow! Glowing shopping centres that defy the laws of physics. I'm going!

inkwell · 13-08-2011 1:19pm

mikemac wrote: »

Well if you don't like it here and find Poland better you know what to do.........

Head to Limerick, Crescent SC is good

I was only waiting for comment like this...

No, thank you, I like it here and I will stay -sorry! I just wish I could buy nice jacket and shoes..-and I am not obsessed with shopping, I only go to shops when I need something...

OneArt · 13-08-2011 1:20pm

There are proper shopping centres you just moved to somewhere which is the middle of nowhere.

There's a lot around the east coast/Dublin area which are quite good. Although if you like shopping centres so much you should go to South Africa, they're in love with them over there.

mikemac · 13-08-2011 1:20pm

Anthony Ryans so
Have you tried there?

Plenty of places on the appropriately named Shop St

Sunnyisland · 13-08-2011 1:23pm

[QUOTE=inkwell;I am just very surpised, because there is only Tesco, Penneys, 2eu shop, Supermacs, Eason and few other small shops.
In Poland where I come from in average city there is few centers like this one :http://galeriabaltycka.pl/en/doc_firma_e.html[/QUOTE]

Aaah but have you got a Dunnes stores

RichieC · 13-08-2011 1:24pm

Big shopping centers only steal the town square from the public domain and hand it to private interests, I see a future were after the shops shut everyone is foocked out and told to go home.

I rather shops on public streets tbh.

inkwell · 13-08-2011 1:24pm

OneArt wrote: »

There are proper shopping centres you just moved to somewhere which is the middle of nowhere.

There's a lot around the east coast/Dublin area which are quite good. Although if you like shopping centres so much you should go to South Africa, they're in love with them over there.

I dont specially like them, I just do like to find what I need in one place and thats it.

inkwell · 13-08-2011 1:27pm

mikemac wrote: »

Anthony Ryans so
Have you tried there?

Plenty of places on the appropriately named Shop St

Plenty of places like what..like Athony Ryans? No, thank you.

The only shop o shop street I go to is Eason.

Sunnyisland · 13-08-2011 1:27pm

Anyway shopping centres are on the way out,its all being done online these days.You get shop for anything you want online, no hassle.

Naomi00 · 13-08-2011 1:28pm

inkwell wrote: »

I dont specially like them, I just do like to find what I need in one place and thats it.

It's called a town centre.

13-08-2011 1:29pm

Big shopping centres are a pain in the arse.

inkwell · 13-08-2011 1:30pm

Naomi00 wrote: »

It's called a town centre.

It would be good enough, if thats the way it is i Galway, but I've spend about 5 hours today desperate to find what I needed (I am not specially fussy) -and no luck.

ColeTrain · 13-08-2011 1:31pm

I don't like shopping so I don't care.

dirtypanties · 13-08-2011 1:51pm

I think you've missed the point OP about why 'average' family has two cars-It's out of necessity to get to/from work which for many is a long commute away-a lot of families with two cars then often have little or no money left over after paying mortgage,food,car tax,petrol etc-Having huge shopping centres full of crap-stuff might be your idea of pleasure but for others just to relax and chill out at home is paramount at the weekends-why don't you just shop on the internet like most other people??Plus if this is all you have to be worrying about then.....

FlutterinBantam · 13-08-2011 1:55pm

dirtypanties wrote: »

I think you've missed the point OP about why 'average' family has two cars-It's out of necessity to get to/from work which for many is a long commute away-a lot of families with two cars then often have little or no money left over after paying mortgage,food,car tax,petrol etc-Having huge shopping centres full of crap-stuff might be your idea of pleasure but for others just to relax and chill out at home is paramount at the weekends-why don't you just shop on the internet like most other people??Plus if this is all you have to be worrying about then.....

Wash your skiddies honey, the giff here is fetid.

jaysus:eek:

Hank_Jones · 13-08-2011 1:58pm

We don't have very many great shopping centres...

We do have a very good social welfare system though....

The King of Moo · 13-08-2011 2:01pm

As a Galwegian I'm surprised you say it could take you 5 hours to find what you need.
Sure, it doesn't have lots of the big name shops you get in big cities, but if you're just getting groceries you've plenty of options. I don't see what other things you'd need.

As others have said, Galway is very small, basically just a fairly large town, so it can't have big shopping centres.

Why not do what most Galwegians do who are into their clothes shopping and make an occasional day trip to Dublin to do some shopping?
It's so cheap and quick to go there and back on the bus now.

flutterflye · 13-08-2011 2:03pm

Just move to Dublin if you're that bothered.
Or better yet, America or London or somewhere.

IrishEyes19 · 13-08-2011 2:06pm

inkwell wrote: »

I dont know any poor people around me and I know people from all sort of backgrounds...you should appreciate what you have here and stop complaining.

Is this a geniune question about shopping centres or a dig at people complaining. Im confused :rolleyes:

As for poor people. Jesus, walk down any of the big towns, cities streets during the night and you'll see homeless people. Walk into any village, town, and you'll see families who have lost their jobs, surviving on one income and in some cases, none. Single parents trying to raise kids, pay school bills, suirvive in general and then on top of it, keep up with all the raising taxes coming into play.

STOP COMPLAINING??? Why should we? Very greedy people made a huge mess of this country's finances and because of it, hardworking people are suffering. Complain all you like, folks. Whoever said, money isnt the key to happiness has a point, but for christ sake, having none makes it a whole lot more complicated when you have a family to raise.

PS: Dublin has some nice shopping centres. You should go there. :rolleyes:

wolf moon · 13-08-2011 2:14pm

inkwell wrote: »

I simply dont understand.

There is nothing to understand in this matter - some places have shopping centres and some don't. What's the problem??

inkwell · 13-08-2011 2:22pm

wolf moon wrote: »

There is nothing to understand in this matter - some places have shopping centres and some don't. What's the problem??

It's not a problem. I was just wondering, because in a capitalist country, where is demand there should be supply and thats how econy grows.
It's not only me who is saying there is not enough shops in such a Galway, I've heard many people actually saying they have to go to shop to Dublin or London. It's just strange.

inkwell · 13-08-2011 2:30pm

flutterflye wrote: »

Just move to Dublin if you're that bothered.
Or better yet, America or London or somewhere.

I am not that bothered you know...I think I can live with that :rolleyes:, but obviously you are very bothered with "some foreigner" complaining about something whats in Ireland.
I only thought I will ask here what you think about it and straight away I hear I should move out.
I pay taxes here for almost 6 six years and maybe I have a right to say what I think -or not? In your opinion I should work and keep quiet, because if I dont like something, someone like you will tell me to go home?
There is many many things I absolutely love about Ireland and I always tell people when I can, so if you dont have anything interesting to say, just dont.

wolf moon · 13-08-2011 2:34pm

Paranoia... :rolleyes:

stevenmu · 13-08-2011 2:39pm

inkwell wrote: »

It's not a problem. I was just wondering, because in a capitalist country, where is demand there should be supply and thats how econy grows.
It's not only me who is saying there is not enough shops in such a Galway, I've heard many people actually saying they have to go to shop to Dublin or London. It's just strange.

There's plenty of shops in Galway, but for some reason people like to go somewhere else on shopping trips. People from Galway go to Dublin, people from Dublin go to New York and people from New York go to Galway.

And since all the people in Galway do their shopping in Dublin, it makes far more sense to build all the shopping centers there. That just leaves American tourists shopping in Galway which is why Galway is full of touristy shops selling tack.

It's the circle of shopping.

True story.

flutterflye · 13-08-2011 2:39pm

inkwell wrote: »

I am not that bothered you know...I think I can live with that :rolleyes:, but obviously you are very bothered with "some foreigner" complaining about something whats in Ireland.
I only thought I will ask here what you think about it and straight away I hear I should move out.
I pay taxes here for almost 6 six years and maybe I have a right to say what I think -or not? In your opinion I should work and keep quiet, because if I dont like something, someone like you will tell me to go home?
There is many many things I absolutely love about Ireland and I always tell people when I can, so if you dont have anything interesting to say, just dont.

Gawd, what's with people here reading random crap that isn't there? :rolleyes:
So from my post you got all that yeah? LOL!
Eh yeah, say what you want about Ireland.
No skin off my nose.
Can't stand it here myself!

maninasia · 13-08-2011 2:44pm

inkwell wrote: »

It's not a problem. I was just wondering, because in a capitalist country, where is demand there should be supply and thats how econy grows.
It's not only me who is saying there is not enough shops in such a Galway, I've heard many people actually saying they have to go to shop to Dublin or London. It's just strange.

Actually Inkwell Galway is pretty small although it might well justify a large shopping centre like you say to attract people from the neighbouring counties to come in and shop also.

Basically Irish people don't have experience of the type of shopping centres you talk about. The other part is that it might be difficult to get planning permission for very large shopping centres and building in Ireland and the local merchants and existing shopping centres will try to block the planning permission.

Look at the problems and delays Ikea faced in Dublin to understand the mentality more. Don't mind most of the posters here, they are very defensive like many Irish (or any locals when a foreigner questions something).

charlemont · 13-08-2011 2:52pm

Wake up and smell the coffee, lads. Have any of ye not copped it yet ??

looky loo · 13-08-2011 2:54pm

Is everyone in Galway goin around naked then?.....sorry, no sympathy for this post when there are people starving to death in the world.

Mr. CooL ICE · 13-08-2011 2:59pm

inkwell wrote: »

I am not that bothered you know...I think I can live with that :rolleyes:, but obviously you are very bothered with "some foreigner" complaining about something whats in Ireland.
I only thought I will ask here what you think about it and straight away I hear I should move out.
I pay taxes here for almost 6 six years and maybe I have a right to say what I think -or not? In your opinion I should work and keep quiet, because if I dont like something, someone like you will tell me to go home?
There is many many things I absolutely love about Ireland and I always tell people when I can, so if you dont have anything interesting to say, just dont.

Don't play the race card here buddy. Valid points have already been made.

Going by the previous facts; Population of Gdansk is 455k while Galway is 75k. Do you honestly think a shopping centre designed for a city with 455k would survive in a city with 75k? It is simple supply and demand. If there is no demand, there is no supply. That's a fundamental principle of business

Corruptedmorals · 13-08-2011 3:01pm

Thread title is misleading..Galway is tiny anyway. Plenty of shopping centres in/near Dublin that are decent- Dundrum, Liffey Valley, Blanch, Pavillions. Would be impossible to build a huge one in Galway now, would never get enough anchors and would fail- if it was allowed to be built anyway. Shopping centres are built in good times and even then often with corruption- Liffey Valley is built on brown envelopes. But you're very near Dublin for a daytrip anyway.

spurskiely · 13-08-2011 3:06pm

Gone very serious altogether from such an innocent thread .?????????

PseudoFamous · 13-08-2011 3:11pm

What sort of shops are you looking for, exactly? I've only been to Galway a handful of times, but it has everything a person could need, imo. Of course, if you're looking for high-end fashion, Ireland isn't exactly the place where you'll find it.

syklops · 13-08-2011 3:11pm

spurskiely wrote: »

Gone very serious altogether from such an innocent thread .?????????

Well the OP picked a very small part of Ireland, Galway, decided that there were no shopping centres there to his liking, and assumed thats the same case across the rest of ireland.

OP, whats wrong with Penneys? Most of my Polish friends love it, and not just because of the name.

Anyway, you can get to dublin in about 3 hours by bus now. Go there for your shopping, it is the capital.

DoneDL · 13-08-2011 3:14pm

I dislike the idea of large shopping centres as they are generally only supported by larger chain groups, real value exists in establishing and encouraging smaller local outlets providing more jobs and keeps the money within the community. I don`t think shop street is perfect but overall Galway is a good place to shop in.

DebDynamite · 13-08-2011 3:17pm

inkwell wrote: »

Why I have to go to shop to Poland? I live here and I would be happy to spend my money here. There is just nothing in Galway! No decent shop with shoes or clothes. I simply dont understand.

So, you don't like the shops in Galway, so you go to Poland to shop?

Maybe that's why no nice shops in high immigrant areas are opening up, becasue they're are sending their money back to their home countries.

13-08-2011 3:23pm

inkwell wrote: »

I am not that bothered you know...I think I can live with that :rolleyes:, but obviously you are very bothered with "some foreigner" complaining about something whats in Ireland.
I only thought I will ask here what you think about it and straight away I hear I should move out.
I pay taxes here for almost 6 six years and maybe I have a right to say what I think -or not? In your opinion I should work and keep quiet, because if I dont like something, someone like you will tell me to go home?

I really think you've misunderstood.

People aren't suggesting you move because you're "some foreigner". People are suggesting you move because you're having difficulty where you're living now. You've explained it doesn't bother you that much and that's fine, but by no means are people asking you to "move out".

You certainly have a right to say what you think, regardless of whether you're paying taxes or not. Even tourists or people who have never been to Ireland are entitled to comment on the number of shopping centres here. But obviously if you say that Galway doesn't have a shopping centre like a particular one in Poland, people will suggest you go to the one in Poland. That's just life, unhelpful comments on the internet are in no way dependent on your nationality or tax status, it's just how people are.

I don't think you should "work and keep quiet", but I don't know what response you're looking for. All anyone can do is let you know that Dublin has shopping centres, and inform you that many people go abroad to do clothes shopping when they're looking for a lot of stuff or are looking for something in particular. I know some guys who do all their clothes shopping in America (usually New York). So the suggestion for you to go abroad isn't anyone asking you to leave the country for good, it's just a suggestion that a trip abroad might be a good way of getting your year's worth of clothes shopping done, and then come back! No one was trying to make you feel unwelcome.

D1stant · 13-08-2011 3:42pm

Sulmac wrote: »

Also;

Population of Gdańsk (where the shopping centre in the OP's link is): ~1,080,700
Population of Galway: ~75,000

And perhaps its that the town planners in Galway have a brain. Even if we had the populations to justify these huge shopping centres it doesnt mean we should. Do we want to turn Ireland into the US? Local markets and industry produce better quality, more employment, sustainbable commerce and thriving town centres that are a pleasure to be in. Shopping centres fatten the bank balances of Lidl, Walmart, Tesco etc and choke the towns to death

Fuck Tesco

Sonnenblumen · 13-08-2011 3:43pm

inkwell wrote: »

Why there are no big proper shopping centers in Ireland? Maybe there is one or two in Dublin (dont know wasnt shopping there), but I live in Galway.. and two be honest its disaster here.
There is a thread about some new restaurant near some shoppig center in Galway (Tesco one) and somebody called it "the biggest in west".
I am just very surpised, because there is only Tesco, Penneys, 2eu shop, Supermacs, Eason and few other small shops.
In Poland where I come from in average city there is few centers like this one :

http://galeriabaltycka.pl/en/doc_firma_e.html

-its huge, few storey and hundreds of good brand's shops.
This all in country were average salary is 500eu per month!
I think if they would build shops like this in here they would have many customers and lots of people would get job's!
Why there is nothing like it here? Ireland is not a poor country!

If you believe the shopping is better in Poland, what are you doing here? Apart from a few out of town centres even a Carrefour (excluded from Ireland) most of the places I saw where **** holes and little money changing hands.

No proper shopping centers in Ireland!

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