London and UK riots (started in Tottenham 10:30PM, 6th Aug)

marcsignal · 11-08-2011 05:20PM

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

These are the first serious riots in Britain since the 80s. Drop housing and benefits for this lot, and see how that improves things.

Drop housing benefits, and move them all to a deserted island in the Arctic Circle works for me.

Morlar wrote: »

Remember when hundreds of english football hooligans tried to take the piss ? Remember what happened to them ? The Gardaí went through them and literally knocked the shít out of every one of them. I think if you tried that here the guards would be the least of your worries.

This ? Scumbag @ 1:57

Good enough for them !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOhQp8ENmzs

dfx- · 11-08-2011 05:34PM

norris_minor wrote: »

the let me narrow it down for you. yoof culture. Same unshifting mass eyesore herbert scum for decades. rave and hippity hop, that's where the crims and snides hole up. i dunno it just.. attracts or breeds a new type of spineless muppet. seen cultures come and go; but this one.. Urgh. idiot niche.

I know what it is or what is being used to represent, I haven't seen the term be used with such disdain for all those same decades.

The solution isn't about draconian measures or vigilantes. None of that stopped it. Quintupling the police on duty stopped that. Having a police officer on every corner put an end to it, not water cannon or live rounds or baton charges or vigilante-ism. They may be young, but they're not that stupid. They weren't out of control when police were on hand. And when all those officers are let go and put back into the rubbish heap by Cameron, the same problem whatever every individual decides it is will be there.

Whether Britain wants to afford or can afford that level of policing over a longer period and whether you want to give such an awful police force as the Met that sort of power, well that'll probably never be agreed upon.

sensibleken · 11-08-2011 05:36PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

Still haven't googled it? :rolleyes:

I'm beginning to think that the best example of a 'ghetto of the mind' is certain sections of Boards.ie

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denhaagenite · 11-08-2011 05:41PM

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Nice one, I couldn't come up with a fitting enough quip for the return of Happyman42 but I think that will do :pac:

Happyman42 · 11-08-2011 05:42PM

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Google is thataway >>>>>>

sensibleken · 11-08-2011 05:43PM

norris_minor wrote: »

the let me narrow it down for you. yoof culture. Same unshifting mass eyesore herbert scum for decades. rave and hippity hop, that's where the crims and snides hole up. i dunno it just.. attracts or breeds a new type of spineless muppet. seen cultures come and go; but this one.. Urgh. idiot niche.

you've mention this a few times. Im guessing you've never actually been to a rave no?

LondonIrish90 · 11-08-2011 05:45PM

dfx- wrote: »

Whether Britain wants to afford or can afford that level of policing over a longer period and whether you want to give such an awful police force as the Met that sort of power, well that'll probably never be agreed upon.

I strongly suspect you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about with this comment.

bernardo mac · 11-08-2011 05:45PM

InTheTrees wrote: »

I like the idea of denying council housing to those convicted.

Absolute insanity for tax payers to be paying to house those who are burning peoples houses.

Correct and that's happening here!....in Limerick anyway afaik:mad:

sensibleken · 11-08-2011 05:46PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

Google is thataway >>>>>>

no it isnt. besides if its googled all that shows up on the first page is some stupid song lyrics. I guess thats what your argument is based on yeah?

you do realise when you leave school and if you are lucky enough to go to college you cannot cite www.google.com for all your references. well you can but you wont get past your first exam

Kasabian · 11-08-2011 05:51PM

Anarchy is the only slight glimmer of hope.

norris_minor · 11-08-2011 05:52PM

sensibleken wrote: »

norris_minor wrote: »

the let me narrow it down for you. yoof culture. Same unshifting mass eyesore herbert scum for decades. rave and hippity hop, that's where the crims and snides hole up. i dunno it just.. attracts or breeds a new type of spineless muppet. seen cultures come and go; but this one.. Urgh. idiot niche.

you've mention this a few times. Im guessing you've never actually been to a rave no?

only rave themed festivals to see beck / primal scream / orb and the like.. didn't like mingling with the mingers though. wander'd into the odd ballroom.. disco has become really sleazy over the past two decades; immensely heightened predator / slapper environment ecaserbated by artificial music/drug, attracting/producing a new low of degenerate. That's not progress at all

Dublin_Gunner · 11-08-2011 05:54PM

sensibleken wrote: »

you've mention this a few times. Im guessing you've never actually been to a rave no?

You gotta love the generalisation. Most of my mates that I frequented the rave scene with are solicitors, accountants, engineers, artists etc

Never seen any of them rob or loot.
Some have worn hooded sweatshirts on occasion.

Show Time · 11-08-2011 05:56PM

This is what happens when teachers are not allowed to hammer the living s**t out of students in school.

sensibleken · 11-08-2011 05:58PM

norris_minor wrote: »

only rave themed festivals to see beck / primal scream / orb and the like.. didn't like mingling with the mingers though. wander'd into the odd ballroom.. disco has become really sleazy over the past two decades; immensely heightened predator / slapper environment ecaserbated by artificial music/drug, attracting/producing a new low of degenerate. That's not progress at all

so this answer is no then you havent. proper raves in a field or abandoned site, even at electronic night were great fun where you would get no trouble and meet some of the nicest people you could. youd tend not to run into snobs who judge people to be degenerate based on their taste in music

and ballroom? are you actually taking the piss?

Dublin_Gunner · 11-08-2011 05:59PM

Show Time wrote: »

This is what happens when teachers are not allowed to hammer the living s**t out of students in school.

YYou're assuming they attend school.

sensibleken · 11-08-2011 06:00PM

Show Time wrote: »

This is what happens when teachers are not allowed to hammer the living s**t out of students in school.

actually the first person on trial yesterday was a teacher

norris_minor · 11-08-2011 06:01PM

sensibleken wrote: »

norris_minor wrote: »

only rave themed festivals to see beck / primal scream / orb and the like.. didn't like mingling with the mingers though. wander'd into the odd ballroom.. disco has become really sleazy over the past two decades; immensely heightened predator / slapper environment ecaserbated by artificial music/drug, attracting/producing a new low of degenerate. That's not progress at all

so this answer is no then you havent. proper raves in a field or abandoned site, even at electronic night were great fun where you would get no trouble and meet some of the nicest people you could. youd tend not to run into snobs who judge people to be degenerate based on their taste in music

and ballroom? are you actually taking the piss?

f*ck off.

Show Time · 11-08-2011 06:01PM

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

YYou're assuming they attend school.

True i know but it is a valid point. When i was in primary school the nut job headmaster had a leg of a chair for dealing with anyone who got out of line.

Paparazzo · 11-08-2011 06:01PM

norris_minor wrote: »

the let me narrow it down for you. yoof culture. Same unshifting mass eyesore herbert scum for decades. rave and hippity hop, that's where the crims and snides hole up. i dunno it just.. attracts or breeds a new type of spineless muppet. seen cultures come and go; but this one.. Urgh. idiot niche.

Yeah, it's the music. They shouldn't be listening to the likes of 50 Pence or Snoopy Snoopy Dog Dog.

And you do know music has been blamed in every decade since my grandparents?

LondonIrish90 · 11-08-2011 06:02PM

sensibleken wrote: »

actually the first person on trial yesterday was a teacher

A teaching assistant I believe. How can you blame some of them when they are being so heavily influenced in school by a scumbag like him? Hopefully he is sacked immediately and prevented from working with children ever again.

denhaagenite · 11-08-2011 06:03PM

Hip hop and RnB are the bad ones, techno a bit aswell but rave is OK, isn't it? All the computer nerds are into rave...

marcsignal · 11-08-2011 06:05PM

sensibleken wrote: »

so this answer is no then you havent. proper raves in a field or abandoned site, even at electronic night were great fun where you would get no trouble and meet some of the nicest people you could. youd tend not to run into snobs who judge people to be degenerate based on their taste in music

Thats only because they are at Electric Picnic, where the line up has always determined, that there never has been, or will, be any trouble.

mickydoomsux · 11-08-2011 06:06PM

sensibleken wrote: »

actually the first person on trial yesterday was a teacher

Teaching assistant actually. And his job is to babysit the crap/incapable/unwilling students because of yet another liberal policy which is that of "inclusion".

Sure, mix the dumbasses and the unwilling in with the kids with potential. I can't possibly see how that could go wrong. :rolleyes:

KeithM89_old · 11-08-2011 06:10PM

norris_minor wrote: »

f*ck off.

Banned

mike65 · 11-08-2011 06:12PM

Laura Johnson who lives here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-14495838

My name is URL · 11-08-2011 06:13PM

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Teaching assistant actually. And his job is to babysit the crap/incapable/unwilling students because of yet another liberal policy which is that of "inclusion".

Sure, mix the dumbasses and the unwilling in with the kids with potential. I can't possibly see how that could go wrong. :rolleyes:

That's not really the purpose of a teaching assistant.. but assuming it was, what would your alternative be?

lol. if nothing else, at least this fiasco has given those on the right an excuse to attack all things 'liberal'.

Happyman42 · 11-08-2011 06:16PM

sensibleken wrote: »

no it isnt. besides if its googled all that shows up on the first page is some stupid song lyrics. I guess thats what your argument is based on yeah?

you do realise when you leave school and if you are lucky enough to go to college you cannot cite www.google.com for all your references. well you can but you wont get past your first exam

Sorry sorry Sensibleken, I didn't realise you where still at school....mea cupla.
Maybe a google search was asking too much. :rolleyes:

If there's any big words you don't understand in here, just ask. Found these after a quick google search. :rolleyes:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9780470996928.ch3/summary

http://ideas.repec.org/a/bla/jorssa/v170y2007i2p405-424.html

discussed here

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/sustainable-cities/beyond-the-ghetto.pdf

You learn something new everyday eh??? (That's if you want to!

)

LondonIrish90 · 11-08-2011 06:16PM

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Teaching assistant actually. And his job is to babysit the crap/incapable/unwilling students because of yet another liberal policy which is that of "inclusion".

Sure, mix the dumbasses and the unwilling in with the kids with potential. I can't possibly see how that could go wrong. :rolleyes:

There was a movement led by a local councillor in my town to have the grammar schools closed down so rest of the local population didn't feel inferior or excluded because they went to normal comprehensives. No concern was given to the fact that it would seriously hamper the progress and attainment of the more capable students.

Thankfully, common sense prevailed but it makes you weep for the future of the world.

denhaagenite · 11-08-2011 06:17PM

Paparazzo wrote: »

Yeah, it's the music. They shouldn't be listening to the likes of 50 Pence or Snoopy Snoopy Dog Dog.

And you do know music has been blamed in every decade since my grandparents?

I enjoy Snoop, Def Jam, early Kanye West but you have to admit, some of the drivel and racist, sexist, money hungry, violent and hate inciting bs that is coming out is too much...

pragmatic1 · 11-08-2011 06:18PM

denhaagenite wrote: »

Hip hop and RnB are the bad ones, techno a bit aswell but rave is OK, isn't it? All the computer nerds are into rave...

Rave. Is this the early 90s.

London and UK riots (started in Tottenham 10:30PM, 6th Aug)

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