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Michael O'Leary for Minister of Health

  • 07-08-2011 10:11PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭


    Lads do you think there is any way of getting Michael O'Leary to take on our disgraceful health service. Maybe if everybody sends him a letter begging him to do it for the sake of the nation. But seriously I couldn't think of anyone better for sorting out the HSE. An maybe after that he could move on to education as obviously nobody in govt. has the balls to tackle teacher pay. Actually he should be our one supreme leader and should run every aspect of our country, I'm sure all non-lefties here would agree.

    Should MO'L be apointed as Minister for Health? 42 votes

    Yes
    0% 0 votes
    No(I'm a left wing nut job)
    100% 42 votes


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    i'd rather have mary harney back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,495 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Pointless thread.he has no intrest in running for office.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    ted1 wrote: »
    Pointless thread.he has no intrest in running for office.

    We could ask him nicely?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭7sr2z3fely84g5


    please insert €2 to get to the hospital.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    We could ask him nicely?

    we could also tell him to f*ck off nicely


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    Actually he should be our one supreme leader and should run every aspect of our country, I'm sure all non-lefties here would agree.

    I don't think you know what you're talking about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    The problem with giving the health service the medicine it requires is that if you try to tackle it people will die during the strikes that will follow the changes. No government wants to have that blood on their hands which is what makes it more difficult.

    Speedy health reform will lead to deaths as the public are the innocent casualties in the fight between the government and the unions. Reform is needed but alas there is no one brave enough, especially not the incumbent who was one of them. Harney tried it but she is almost universally reviled here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Yeah, I am sure running an airline business is almost exactly the same as running a nations health service. And of course he would be motivated by all the profit he makes as a health minister...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,291 ✭✭✭dresden8


    please insert €2 to get to the hospital.

    It's already €100. The public sector taking on private sector best practice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭7sr2z3fely84g5


    The problem with giving the health service the medicine it requires is that if you try to tackle it people will die during the strikes that will follow the changes. No government wants to have that blood on their hands which is what makes it more difficult.

    Speedy health reform will lead to deaths as the public are the innocent casualties in the fight between the government and the unions. Reform is needed but alas there is no one brave enough, especially not the incumbent who was one of them. Harney tried it but she is almost universally reviled here.

    Agreed,its on a clamp down,park agreement done up last moment to avoid a strike,even if there where people fired today there would be no one rehired because they cant afford to pay them because salaries protected by the agreement!.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    Lads do you think there is any way of getting Michael O'Leary to take on our disgraceful health service. Maybe if everybody sends him a letter begging him to do it for the sake of the nation. But seriously I couldn't think of anyone better for sorting out the HSE. An maybe after that he could move on to education as obviously nobody in govt. has the balls to tackle teacher pay. Actually he should be our one supreme leader and should run every aspect of our country, I'm sure all non-lefties here would agree.
    HERP DERP LOONY LEFT PC GONE MAD


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Mr. Denton


    orourkeda wrote: »
    i'd rather have mary harney back

    Let's not even joke about that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    Finance Minister maybe, but Health Minister needs a bit of cop on!
    o_O


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    Lads do you think there is any way of getting Michael O'Leary to take on our disgraceful health service. Maybe if everybody sends him a letter begging him to do it for the sake of the nation. But seriously I couldn't think of anyone better for sorting out the HSE. An maybe after that he could move on to education as obviously nobody in govt. has the balls to tackle teacher pay. Actually he should be our one supreme leader and should run every aspect of our country, I'm sure all non-lefties here would agree.

    And we would get

    - hospitals in the middle of nowhere
    - Crazy prices for hospital food
    - Coin operated Wheelchairs, lockers, bathrooms, drips, monitors
    - Nurses and Doctors having to buy their own uniforms
    - 24hr advertising radio

    and even more exposure to that smug little chancer

    No thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭The_Thing


    I'd rather have Josef Mengele in charge than that arrogant tosser O'Leary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    We already feckin have hospitals in the middle of nowhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,125 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Michael O'Leary's plan for the health service;

    1. Abolish HSE and return power to small regional health boards to oversee "standards of practice" (and only the said standards of practice).

    2. Privatise the entire health sector, sell off all hospitals and clinic.

    3. Buy up all hospitals and clinics.

    4. Rename the new health service with some quirky name, let's say, "Leary care", "Ryan Health", etc..

    5. Fire all unionised staff. Give the 2 fingers to the unions.

    6. Create a new website for your health service empire with an easy-to-use booking service for treatment.

    7. The website will offer cheap hotel deals for people who want to find a place to stay beside the hospital/clinic. Also include health insurance offers, a "Leary care"/ "Ryan Health" credit care offers, cheap ambulance services and a link to the Ryanair website if you need to travel abroad to get emergency treatment.

    8. Have advertisements on the website like "GP visits - €0.99"", "Amazing offer: Hip Replacements - now only €6.99!". During booking you will release that those offers were only for off peak periods (:rolleyes:) and that there are more sneaky little charges like ambulance costs, waiting room fees, etc..

    9. If you need to take an ambulance (remember that this merits an additional fee), they will probably leave you about 10 km away from the hospital or clinic. "Leary care" will not be responsible for any losses, injury or death incurred during transfer. If you have any major loss of limbs, organ, blood, or if you need to be revived during transfer you will have to pay an addition fee for recovery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭AskMyChocolate


    orourkeda wrote: »
    i'd rather have mary harney back

    Agreed. But let's not lose the run of ourselves. There are other options.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭7sr2z3fely84g5


    Shows again the unions have more power than average minister *which is great if you work in these jobs...


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,561 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    As it, I know of one patient (public) that is not being given the meds she needs, as the only neurologist she can access is in Dublin and the hospital budget staff say that she would cost them too much.Imagine if O' Leary took over.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭AskMyChocolate


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    Lads do you think there is any way of getting Michael O'Leary to take on our disgraceful health service. Maybe if everybody sends him a letter begging him to do it for the sake of the nation. But seriously I couldn't think of anyone better for sorting out the HSE. An maybe after that he could move on to education as obviously nobody in govt. has the balls to tackle teacher pay. Actually he should be our one supreme leader and should run every aspect of our country, I'm sure all non-lefties here would agree.

    Yes, excellent idea. I have no doubt that he could cut the health budget in half. Of course, there would be no treatment for fatties,smokers, the elderly, or the sick, but shur that's capitalism. We don't need any hangers-on, right? Humanity is for the weak. I have no doubt that there would be several hedge-funds interested in your proposals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭imitation


    First thing he would do is look at the costs and put them straight on to the patient(Or health Insurance).

    a night in hospital ? that'll be 1000 euros please
    Need some fancy medication ?, that'll be 100 euros a day, for the rest of your life.
    Broke a collar bone ? That'll be 30,000 euros please

    Hello US health system !


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    No.

    A business head such as his would not have a clue how to successfully manage a triage system in circumstances (like our present one) that requires management of health procedures, where additionally every second counts in regards to saving lives and retaining quality of life.
    Both of which alone, would be compromised for the sake of profit numbers on a spreadsheet!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    The surgery rooms will have a credit card machine. Insert card and enter pin to pay €4000 if you require an anesthetic.
    No thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    Biggins wrote: »
    No.

    A business head such as his would not have a clue how to successfully manage a triage system in circumstances (like our present one) that requires management of health procedures, where additionally every second counts in regards to saving lives and retaining quality of life.
    Both of which alone, would be compromised for the sake of profit numbers on a spreadsheet!

    So you want the current to continue then?:rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    So you want the current to continue then?:rolleyes:
    Yes - while I disagree strongly in some of his actions.
    At least he has a high degree training in the field of saving lives and whats involved.

    Would you send in a cook (Gorden Ramsey, whomever...) to fix a nuclear powerstation and make it turn a profit?
    Why send in a man that runs an airline to rule over a service that is about saving lives?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    So you want the current to continue then?:rolleyes:

    Isn't there an alternative? :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    So you want the current to continue then?:rolleyes:
    That there's a textbook example of a false dichotomy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭decisions


    He would make a great Stalin, but health minster no.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭AskMyChocolate


    If it was up to you OP, the only people who would have access to healthcare, would be the people of Dublin, Limerick, Galway, and Cork (and even then if they were within a certain amount of miles of city limits), as their tax contribution is the only one, that entitles them.

    I believe that we are a nation, and I have often enjoyed the pleasures that rural Ireland affords us all. If it was up to you OP there would only be five or six counties in this island who would deserve electricity,gas,television etc.

    You should read September 1913 by W.B. Yeats, or anything by Patrick Kavanagh.

    Although I doubt you will, so just add your ha'pence to your pence and fumble in your greasy till.


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