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Do People Still Get Refused From Pubs/Clubs

  • 25-06-2011 07:12AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭imme


    You know back in the age of the Tiger people used to get refused from pubs and clubs for wearing inappropriate clothing etc and queues would go down the street with people waiting in line.

    Well, does this still happen in the new Ireland:confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭Pdfile


    because many pubs and clubs will not and cannot actually go out of business.

    Seriously, their scene isn't rocket science.


    Though i would argue that their are far too many of the like in dublin let alone ireland ( it is over kill ) meh. IF your refused... go elsewhere or go home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭joe stodge


    yeah, i do sometimes. i dont like wearing shoes so i normally get pulled on that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    i remember being refused the odd time before recession for the most stupid thing like don't know your face. nowadays you'd have to be absolutely palatic not to get in or a member of the travel community.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    I only remember ever being refused once myself for "being too drunk" when I had had around 6-7 pints, which for me is warming up before the game. I was just acting the plonker TBH.

    I know I have been turned away when I can't even remember going out, but that doesn't count because I deserved to be. That said, I have one bar here, where no matter how drunk I am, I am always welcome. Simply because I go there often enough that all the staff know my face and know that no matter how drunk I am, I'm not angry ever, and always just have a laugh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    joe stodge wrote: »
    yeah, i do sometimes. i dont like wearing shoes so i normally get pulled on that.

    Is that not a bit risky?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,250 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    joe stodge wrote: »
    yeah, i do sometimes. i dont like wearing shoes so i normally get pulled on that.

    In fairness if you turned up barefoot at my pub i'd tell you to fcuk off....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭joe stodge


    Is that not a bit risky?

    runners is the norm for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,694 ✭✭✭david


    Is that not a bit risky?
    I don't think it was ever just the shoes. Dress code is an excuse to refuse drunk people hopefully without confrontation or sometimes to filter out undesirables.

    If you get refused on the basis of dress - you can be almost sure that you wouldn't get in wearing your finest three piece suit either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭cosanostra


    david wrote: »
    I don't think it was ever just the shoes. Dress code is an excuse to refuse drunk people hopefully without confrontation or sometimes to filter out undesirables.

    If you get refused on the basis of dress - you can be almost sure that you wouldn't get in wearing your finest three piece suit either.

    Or just to make bouncers feel like there's a meaning to their life

    The best excuse I ever heard was in a club in Dublin that it was an ethnic minorities night and no Irish were allowed in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    I remember when my local boozer used to have people on the door :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 207 ✭✭Sweatynutsack


    Think this happens more so in big cities rather than towns, i have been refused entry into clubs in Cork on numerous occasions for wearing trainers yet in my home town i can get in anywhere.

    I don't blame bouncers for refusing to let people that wear football jersey's or hoodies in though tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,590 ✭✭✭theteal


    one of the lads gets refused everywhere in Dublin, without fail, its become a running joke. The last example was flannerys on a Sunday night about 4 weeks ago (yeah flannerys! on a Sunday!). It's just the head on him. He's 26, 6'1 and looks a bit like a student version of Morrissey. . .



    . . .come to think of it, I'm not gonna let him into the gaf anymore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,257 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    cosanostra wrote: »

    Or just to make bouncers feel like there's a meaning to their life
    they're usually working under orders when it comes to something like that. People are judged as they walk to the door.
    Unless it's a high end bar/club, the. We just don't like the look of you or maye one of your mates.
    Sure we'll lose your money on the night, but keeping the right people inside happy and the right looking people in queue is just as important to us.
    Not sure what it's fully like back in Ireland, but we keep a manager outside at all times and we stand away from the door. a simple nod to the bouncer will bing their eyes to the people you don't want in your venue.
    Also calling ahead to other venues to five them prior warning of groups goes on too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Used to be a member of Westwood gym in Dublin and there was a place called Barcode attached.

    Was going to the gym one Saturday evening, me in my tracksuit and gym bag and runners.
    And got stopped at the gate by the road and was told I wasn't getting in dressed like that and they asked me for ID anyway :mad:

    Holding up my gym swipe card didn't work either.

    Grrrrrr, sent in a complaint and got a letter of apology from the manager. Hope that bouncer got sacked

    Sorry, offtopic. I'd forgotton about this until this thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭Azureus


    ^ Didnt think barcode would be that fussy even if you were going in tbh :p

    Never got refused from a place, but I have noticed that a lot of my local clubs only hav bouncers on from 12-3 now, as opposed to how they used to start at about 8!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭fearcruach


    I hadn't been stopped for "inappropriate" footwear since the recession until a few months ago at the Baggot Inn. He let me in with a warning saying "it's dress shoes only here".

    I'm sorry, do you not like business?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    The Baggot Inn? Jesus, you must have been plastered to get turned away from there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Last night work out I got stopped at Coppers.
    It would have been my first time in there, I wonder what I'm missing
    But I was wearing runners and I've zero issue with being stopped.
    But then I read on boards about it being packed during the Championship season with GAA supporters and their jerseys.
    Yet I get stopped for runners?


    I do get stopped for ID the odd time and it's a long time since I turned 18!
    But stopping for ID is less to do with age and more to do with talking and sussing someone out.
    So I get in once I produce the ID


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,320 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    mikemac wrote: »
    Last night work out I got stopped at Coppers.
    It would have been my first time in there, I wonder what I'm missing
    But I was wearing runners and I've zero issue with being stopped.
    But then I read on boards about it being packed during the Championship season with GAA supporters and their jerseys.
    Yet I get stopped for runners?


    I do get stopped for ID the odd time and it's a long time since I turned 18!
    But stopping for ID is less to do with age and more to do with talking and sussing someone out.
    So I get in once I produce the ID


    I always wear runners and have never been refused from Coppers so it wasn't because of that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭Daegerty


    I'm going to start trying to get into the formerly posh places in cork with a pair of wellies. If I don't get refused anywhere I'll try dublin


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Bodhidharma


    Just in Cork. We get the bouncers who have to remember to breath down here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,712 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Molly Malones in Limerick refused a few of us one night because they said it is a student bar. Have been there a number of times. They seem to ignore the people that live in Limerick during the summer time that keeps the place in business.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 Instanto


    Daegerty wrote: »
    I'm going to start trying to get into the formerly posh places in cork with a pair of wellies. If I don't get refused anywhere I'll try dublin
    You'll need hobnail boots in Dublin.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,065 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    Was out a week last Friday with a few people from work, went into the Gasworks Pub, just at the end of Barrow Street.

    Was about 12 of us, mix of male/female, and all well behaved.

    The day previously i had shaved my hair into a mohawk, and that night was wearing a DeathClutch t-shirt.

    Walked in at 8pm and bought a pint, had another one at 8.30, then the bouncer came up to me and said i had to leave due to me breaking the dress code.

    The manager came over and said i was wearing a football/rugby shirt and had to go, i explained it wasn't a soccer shirt, 2 other guys in our party were wearing rugby shirts. Never bothered his arse with them.

    IMO it was the size of me and my mohawk.

    Tried talking them down but were having none of it, i know i shouldn;t have but i ended up lobbin a glass , then he offered free finger food and a couple of drinks to the people who were left, so long as i didn't come back.

    They told him to fcuk off and all left.

    So OP, yes, people still get refused. If they can let 12 people walk out, who all would have stayed there drinking all night then they're idiots


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Instanto wrote: »
    You'll need hobnail boots in Dublin.:)

    www.instantrimshot.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭yesno1234


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Molly Malones in Limerick refused a few of us one night because they said it is a student bar. Have been there a number of times. They seem to ignore the people that live in Limerick during the summer time that keeps the place in business.

    Molly's during college always ask to see student id aswell as agecard etc. It's a bit unfair tbh to the Limerick regulars.
    scudzilla wrote: »
    Was out a week last Friday with a few people from work, went into the Gasworks Pub, just at the end of Barrow Street.

    Was about 12 of us, mix of male/female, and all well behaved.

    The day previously i had shaved my hair into a mohawk, and that night was wearing a DeathClutch t-shirt.

    Walked in at 8pm and bought a pint, had another one at 8.30, then the bouncer came up to me and said i had to leave due to me breaking the dress code.

    The manager came over and said i was wearing a football/rugby shirt and had to go, i explained it wasn't a soccer shirt, 2 other guys in our party were wearing rugby shirts. Never bothered his arse with them.

    IMO it was the size of me and my mohawk.

    Tried talking them down but were having none of it, i know i shouldn;t have but i ended up lobbin a glass , then he offered free finger food and a couple of drinks to the people who were left, so long as i didn't come back.

    They told him to fcuk off and all left.

    So OP, yes, people still get refused. If they can let 12 people walk out, who all would have stayed there drinking all night then they're idiots

    Serves ye right being thrown out if thats the way your going to react. Hope you were barred from there and any other premises. It's people like you that cause a minor confrontation to turn into something dangerous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 406 ✭✭LLU


    reminds me of a response from a friend of mine who was getting grief from a bouncer back in the day: 'I'm going for a pint, not a bleedin interview'. don't think he got let in though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    imme wrote: »
    Well, does this still happen in the new Ireland:confused:


    Still happens. Although they want your business more than ever now im sure its not as bad.... but it still happens.

    bouncers are wa*kers. Simple as. To quote a person who once said to me "Bouncers get a power trip when the coat goes on. same as even a manager in a sh*tty little shop.. its all power trips" ... and this guy used to be a bouncer himself.


    Say no more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,065 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    yesno1234 wrote: »
    Molly's during college always ask to see student id aswell as agecard etc. It's a bit unfair tbh to the Limerick regulars.



    Serves ye right being thrown out if thats the way your going to react. Hope you were barred from there and any other premises. It's people like you that cause a minor confrontation to turn into something dangerous.

    That was frustration, if i'd been left alone i wouldn't have done a thing and never have.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    That was frustration, if i'd been left alone i wouldn't have done a thing and never have.

    Balls. What if you ended up hitting someone who had nothing to do with the disagreement with the glass you threw in a hissy fit? If you're the type of person to start flinging glasses around because you had an argument with a stupid pub manager then they were probably right in asking you to leave in the first place. That's dangerous and to be honest, scummy behaviour; regardless of the idiocy of the manager in question.

    LighterGuy,
    bouncers are wa*kers.

    They aren't though. Of course some lads doing that job are, the same way there are arseholes doing every other sort of job. The fact of the matter is that security is a necessary part of the pub trade. It's gas really, there are plenty of people who take this ridiculously pompous superior attitude toward door staff and yet you're the first person they come looking for when some drunk is trying to feel up their girlfriend or start a fight with them in the smoking area. If you have a venue where large amounts of people are sculling drink then security is a necessity, that's all there is to it.

    Similarly, 90% of the time a bouncer's actions are dictated by the proprietor, after all it's his pub and therefore he decides the scene he wants in it. Some publicans will want an older or a younger crowd, a working class or an upper class crowd, professional types or heavy metal types and he'll instruct his door staff to keep it to that effect. He in turn is only reacting to what he perceives his customer base wants from the venue i.e. an older professional crowd won't react kindly to sharing their space with a group of 19 year old youngfellas etc etc etc.

    That's the process at work like, it isn't a case of a doorman setting himself up as the be-all-and-end-all of who and what goes on at the pub.


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