Fas...is no more.

Paddy Samurai · 27-07-2011 02:14PM #1

Eh its now called Solas.........nice name:D

A new education and training authority is to replace Fás, which is being disbanded, it was announced today.
The new agency, called Solas, hopes to bring a more integrated approach to the provision of further education and training in Ireland.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/0727/breaking26.html

iI remember when the health boards changed to the hsc,a mate of mine that worked there,said millions were spent changing signs,nameplates and stationary,but little else changed.

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py2006 · 27-07-2011 02:15PM

Yep, Solas! (not the most imaginative re-naming ever)

Not exactly breaking news but at least jobs wont be lost! At least I hope so!

Guill · 27-07-2011 02:16PM

Same shít, different name.

RayM · 27-07-2011 02:17PM

Solas?

They should have called it "I Can't Believe it's not Fás".

Cathaoirleach · 27-07-2011 02:18PM

'Dorcha' would have been more suitable.

brimal · 27-07-2011 02:18PM

How many Solas executives does it take to screw in a light bulb?

analucija · 27-07-2011 02:18PM

py2006 wrote: »

Yep, Solas! (not the most imaginative re-naming ever)

Not exactly breaking news but at least jobs wont be lost! At least I hope so!

You mean those jobs that made Fas incompetent, overblown organization unable to provide for peoples needs.

They should keep the name, change some of the personnel and not just three people on the top.

cml387 · 27-07-2011 02:20PM

Second rebranding.
It used to be Anco.
Something about polishing a turd?

Tzetze · 27-07-2011 02:22PM

A turd by any other name would reek as vile.

smash · 27-07-2011 02:25PM

Disband Fas and start Solas. Keep all the same staff, ethics, unions and programmes... yep, seems right.

who the fug · 27-07-2011 02:26PM

What was wrong with calling it ANCO

py2006 · 27-07-2011 02:27PM

analucija wrote: »

You mean those jobs that made Fas incompetent, overblown organization unable to provide for peoples needs.

They should keep the name, change some of the personnel and not just three people on the top.

In fairness, the staff at the centres are perfectly fine! Some struggling on a few hours a week teaching in the evenings!

Its the few at the top that need changing

Duggy747 · 27-07-2011 02:27PM

People will still call it Fàs

Mint Sauce · 27-07-2011 02:28PM

brimal wrote: »

How many Solas executives does it take to screw in a light bulb?

They wouldn't be allowed to, thousands would be spent drawing and a health and safety plan, and then a 'sparky' would be employed at a call out rate, plus labour to complete the 2 minute job.

:rolleyes:

smash · 27-07-2011 02:28PM

They should bring back Georga Salpa to do the ads again!

Mint Sauce · 27-07-2011 02:29PM

Duggy747 wrote: »

People will still call it Farce

Fixed that for ya.

Faolchu · 27-07-2011 02:31PM

smash wrote: »

Disband Fas and start Solas. Keep all the same staff, ethics, unions and programmes... yep, seems right.

and provide outdated irrelevant training to the unemployed

wild_cat · 27-07-2011 02:34PM

Faolchu wrote: »

and provide outdated irrelevant training to the unemployed

Stop.... a computing graduate that was told to do a basic computers course..... Not myself but a friend.

py2006 · 27-07-2011 02:37PM

Duggy747 wrote: »

People will still call it Fàs

Some people still call it Anco! :eek:

Fluorescence · 27-07-2011 02:37PM

So long as they make the WPP viable they can call themselves whatever the figroll they want.

bluefinger · 27-07-2011 02:49PM

Sinecure
Organisation
Legally
Administering
Slavery

el dude · 27-07-2011 02:52PM

py2006 wrote: »

In fairness, the staff at the centres are perfectly fine!

And then there are those that swan about the place all day doing pretty nothing but still get to collect a nice fat pay cheque.

analucija · 27-07-2011 03:00PM

py2006 wrote: »

In fairness, the staff at the centres are perfectly fine! Some struggling on a few hours a week teaching in the evenings!

Its the few at the top that need changing

I'm not saying that everybody needs changing. But there is no way that keeping old personnel, doing a bit of rebranding and reorganization will suddenly work. If they are supposed to do things differently they probably need people with different skills. I'm waiting in anticipation how many people will be moved internally from one office to another or from a position to a position because they are needed somewhere else. I won't hold my breath.

Dyr · 27-07-2011 03:02PM

Solas.. 50 watt

tallaghtmick · 27-07-2011 03:03PM

smash wrote: »

They should bring back Georga Salpa to do the ads again!

naked!!!!!!

Logical Fallacy · 27-07-2011 03:04PM

py2006 wrote: »

Yep, Solas! (not the most imaginative re-naming ever)

Not exactly breaking news but at least jobs wont be lost! At least I hope so!

Spot on, jobs won't be lost. The same ****ing morons and thieves who were high up in FAS will just move over to the rebranded bull**** and make a total balls of it as well.

smash · 27-07-2011 03:13PM

py2006 wrote: »

In fairness, the staff at the centres are perfectly fine!

Sorry but the trainers are useless and years behind, half of them are 'floaters' with courses made up so they have something to teach.

AnneElizabeth · 27-07-2011 03:17PM

I don't see the point of changing the name, the cost alone of changing every sign!

Biggins · 27-07-2011 03:23PM

Guill wrote: »

Same shít, different name.

Yep.

AnCo
Manpower
Fas

Now Solas... Diffrent name - same tired, regurgitated gimmicks, overstuffed with too many over paid chiefs and not enough indians.

mathie · 27-07-2011 03:25PM

Cathaoirleach wrote: »

'Dorcha' would have been more suitable.

Durka durka.

Biggins · 27-07-2011 03:28PM

AnneElizabeth wrote: »

I don't see the point of changing the name, the cost alone of changing every sign!

Yep - if this is any indication to go by...

http://www.thejournal.ie/over-e21500-spent-on-new-departmental-logos-and-signs-187552-Jul2011/

THE GOVERNMENT has spent over €21,500 on new signs, logos and stationery after introducing new departments and changing the names on others, although the amount spent varies between departments – from hundreds to thousands of euros.

Minister Richard Bruton confirmed that his department spent over €10,000 in producing new signage and stationery after its name change to the Department of Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation. The department did not fund a new logo.

The Department of Public Expenditure and Reform spent €4,538 on designs for a new logo and headed paper, according to Minister Brendan Howlin.
Last week, Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport Leo Varadkar said his department spent €264 on its new logo design. Varadkar also said that his department is spending €2,086 to put signs for the new department on each of its three buildings in Dublin.

Over €47,000 has been spent on setting up Minister Brendan Howlin’s offices since the department was established by the Fine Gael-Labour coalition government earlier this year to ensure “the effective management of taxpayers’ money”.

A breakdown of expenses published by the Sunday Times and TheStory.ie at the weekend showed that Howlin’s department spent €47 on a bathroom sign that reads “Minister’s Toilet” and another €47 on a key for its door.

New names, new logos, new signs

Minister Simon Coveney’s Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food has yet to decide issues surrounding a new logo and signage.
Minister Phil Hogan said the Department of Environment, Commuinity and Local Government had amended its own logo internally after being re-named by the new government. He added that labels showing the new name were being affixed to stationery at a cost of €1.92/1,000 sheets. The issue of new signs is under review.
The Minister for the Department of Arts, Jimmy Deenihan, said his department was still using the same logo used under its previous name (which was the Department of Tourism, Culture and Sport). He said his department was amending its signage and “once this process has been completed, it will be possible to quantify costs arising”.
Minister Eamon Gilmore said that the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade was not getting a new logo, but had spent €5,066 on replacement signs.

Window dressing for the masses.

Fas...is no more.

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