Oslo bombed

Killer Pigeon · 25-07-2011 05:41PM

wildlifeboy wrote: »

that will be the biggest watch list ever then lol

AhSureTisGrand wrote: »

Just for that I'm thanking his post

Malty_T wrote: »

+1:D

Malty_T wrote: »

Something tells me that a million plus people won't read it.:D

(¬_¬)

Overature · 25-07-2011 05:43PM

I have a very bad feeling that things like this are going to keep happening, until the pot boils over and, i dont like to think what happens next.

I fear that right wing parties are also going to become more popular and might even make it into a government. a well ya never know

Sir Oxman · 25-07-2011 05:47PM

Duggy747 wrote: »

Strangely enough, he had discussed many times that A Justicier Knight would never surrender and that, maybe, if he was caught alive:

the following accusations:
pedophile, engaged in incest activities, homosexual, psycho, ADHD, thief, non-educated, inbred, maniac, insane, monster etc. I will be labeled as the biggest (Nazi-)monster ever witnessed since WW2.

Funnily enough, the famous 'journalist' 'Kay Burley' just today, called him a 'mummy's boy' too many times to count whilst 'interviewing' a criminologist.

That's enough quotation marks from me to last a lifetime

25-07-2011 05:53PM

Overature wrote: »

I fear that right wing parties are also going to become more popular and might even make it into a government. a well ya never know

I think that aswell... It's like a lot of people followed a "PC" line for the last how many years without really believing it and are tired of it. If they keep seeing attacks and see things changing, it could all develop more and more.

The same could happen with racism.. More and more people are getting tired of the "OMG, you're a racist" thing being shouted at anyone who says anything dodgy these days. I know I feel alot freer now to say something controversial than say 5 years ago.

Overature · 25-07-2011 06:00PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think that aswell... It's like a lot of people followed a "PC" line for the last how many years without really believing it and are tired of it. If they keep seeing attacks and see things changing, it could all develop more and more.

The same could happen with racism.. More and more people are getting tired of the "OMG, you're a racist" thing being shouted at anyone who says anything dodgy these days. I know I feel alot freer now to say something controversial than say 5 years ago.

yeah i feel we (western society) have stuck our heads in the sand the past few years with the likes of terroism, 911, Madrid and Londan train bombings, Beslan school massecure and now this to say the least, (there are proberly others i forgot to mention) I think we have regognise that there are extremists on both sides and that this **** can happen

Min · 25-07-2011 06:26PM

Florists are doing great business in Oslo.

Latchy · 25-07-2011 06:29PM

Min wrote: »

Florists are doing great business in Oslo.

Glaziers and undertakers did very well out of the Norn Iron troubles to .

philologos · 25-07-2011 06:34PM

gambiaman wrote: »

Funnily enough, the famous 'journalist' 'Kay Burley' just today, called him a 'mummy's boy' too many times to count whilst 'interviewing' a criminologist.

That's enough quotation marks from me to last a lifetime

Thank you for the update :pac:

I hope there is a youtube video to add to her outstanding collection.

opinion guy · 25-07-2011 06:53PM

gambiaman wrote: »

Funnily enough, the famous 'journalist' 'Kay Burley' just today, called him a 'mummy's boy' too many times to count whilst 'interviewing' a criminologist.

That's enough quotation marks from me to last a lifetime

I thought that was really weird. The criminologist guy did a visible double take when she said that....before going on to use the term himself.

Sgt. Sensible · 25-07-2011 07:06PM

Overature wrote: »

I have a very bad feeling that things like this are going to keep happening, until the pot boils over and, i dont like to think what happens next.

I fear that right wing parties are also going to become more popular and might even make it into a government. a well ya never know

Worst political analysis ever ffs. It's a huge kick in the balls for far right groups. Nobody in their right mind wants to be associated in any way with a pathetic prat who just murdered a load of teenagers. Even the vast majority of the st*rmfr*nt bedsitgruppen appear to be disgusted by it.

25-07-2011 07:10PM

Sgt. Sensible wrote: »

Even the vast majority of the st*rmfr*nt bedsitgruppen appear to be disgusted by it.

Skin colour comes first for them.. If it was 70 black Norweigans, ya know there'd be a different tone over there.
Such a mad forum.. I read the Irish section sometimes just to see how much BS can fit on my laptop screen at one time.

The_Kew_Tour · 25-07-2011 07:13PM

Am I the only person who thinks something like what happened in Norway could happen here say within next 10 years???

It only takes one person....

I hope that something like this will never happen, but with all we have had to put up with over past few years with recession etc somebody is going to go crazy themselves.

karma_ · 25-07-2011 07:13PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Skin colour comes first for them.. If it was 70 black Norweigans, ya know there'd be a different tone over there.
Such a mad forum.. I read the Irish section sometimes just to see how much BS can fit on my laptop screen at one time.

I tried to read some of that but had to stop, whatever faith I have left in humanity I'd like to keep for as long as possible.

Latchy · 25-07-2011 07:16PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Am I the only person who thinks something like what happened in Norway could happen here say within next 10 years???

It only takes one person....

I hope that something like this will never happen, but with all we have had to put up with over past few years with recession etc somebody is going to go crazy themselves.

You ever hear of the northern ireland troubles were hundreds ,thousends were murdered ? Well some people would have you believe that it was all about a political agenda when in many cases it was just sick phycopaths looking for the next ' maim ' fix

Pathetic prat,Mummys boy , Walter Mitty etc , this guy has got himself into the history books out of pure evil .

prinz · 25-07-2011 07:22PM

Overature wrote: »

I fear that right wing parties are also going to become more popular and might even make it into a government. a well ya never know

They already have. Local government anyway. The Jobbik party in Hungary for example, the Lega Nord in Italy wouldn't be far away, the National Front in France, UKIP/BNP aren't a mile off... there is a reason these kinds of groups appeal to people however.

philologos · 25-07-2011 07:23PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Am I the only person who thinks something like what happened in Norway could happen here say within next 10 years???

It only takes one person....

I hope that something like this will never happen, but with all we have had to put up with over past few years with recession etc somebody is going to go crazy themselves.

Norway has one of the most egalitarian economic systems in the world, and yet this still happened. Brevik according to his post argued for the free market and thought that America was somewhere to look to for inspiration, but did he honestly believe that the Norwegian economic system with it's generous welfare and free healthcare was any worse than the US?

What I fear isn't whether or not this could happen in Ireland, but what would happen if several people in a country's major cities happened to do this, or if people in numerous countries and numerous cities did this at the same time?

When does the line blur between a terrorist attack and a domestic war? Not that I ever want this to happen, but it does make for some sobering political theorising about the possibilities.

Brevik talked about a revolution that needed to happen across Europe and he clearly did his homework. Although his perspective is on the far right, I have talked with people on the far-left who believe that if the revolution in the Marxist sense of the word happened with violence that may be a necessary step.

There are people with such views on both extremes of the political spectrum, they are perhaps the biggest threat to political stability in one of the most stable regions in the world.

shadowninty · 25-07-2011 07:24PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Skin colour comes first for them.. If it was 70 black Norweigans, ya know there'd be a different tone over there.
Such a mad forum.. I read the Irish section sometimes just to see how much BS can fit on my laptop screen at one time.

Most of the commentary on SF involved the respected members bemoaning the fact that the he killed "his own kind", whites. They also denounced him for supporting Jews.
Sick people on that site, many women too. They all want to have eight kids to outbreed the "liberal multiculturalists" (yano like Cameron :rolleyes:). Reminded me of that movie idiocracy. Sad.

The_Kew_Tour · 25-07-2011 07:26PM

Latchy wrote: »

You ever hear of the northern ireland troubles were hundreds ,thousends were murdered ? Well some people would have you believe that it was all about a political agenda when in may cases it was just sick phycopaths looking for the next ' maim ' fix

Pathetic prat,Mummys boy , Walter Mitty etc , this guy has got himself into the history books out of pure evil .

I know only all too well about the north had somebody close to me died in it

my point was somebody doing this in one day or within hours.......

agree with your last point, spot on.

shadowninty · 25-07-2011 07:27PM

prinz wrote: »

They already have. Local government anyway. The Jobbik party in Hungary for example, the Lega Nord in Italy wouldn't be far away, the National Front in France, UKIP/BNP aren't a mile off... there is a reason these kinds of groups appeal to people however.

The Tea Party is worth a mention too tbh...

ejmaztec · 25-07-2011 07:28PM

philologos wrote: »

Thank you for the update :pac:

I hope there is a youtube video to add to her outstanding collection.

The Sky News bungling biddies, Burley and Botting, two of the reasons I never watch Sky News, the third reason being that smug pompous know-it-all Tim Marshall.

jill_valentine · 25-07-2011 07:31PM

There have always been such people, and there always will be. We're only playing up to their narrative by treating these individuals as if they are anything more than the latest violent impotent childkiller on the block.

philologos · 25-07-2011 07:31PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

The Sky News bungling biddies, Burley and Botting, two of the reasons I never watch Sky News, the third reason being that smug pompous know-it-all Tim Marshall.

I watch it precisely for that reason.

I hadn't heard of Kay Burley mucking up since she made a big deal about where Kate Middleton bought her underwear. Royals can't mix with their own subjects, royals must be a political elite? Wow, God forbid that we have someone normal in the Royal Family :pac:

Believe it or not there was a time when I thought that Sky News was a reputable news channel. I wonder if it would have made such a big deal if Murdoch was allowed to go ahead with his takeover bid.

You can't miss Adam Boulton though. His outright contempt for the Labour Party comes across in every video he's in such as the Campbell one I mentioned earlier and this one with Gordon Brown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nwF7ySKTpM

Sgt. Sensible · 25-07-2011 07:35PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Skin colour comes first for them.. If it was 70 black Norweigans, ya know there'd be a different tone over there.
Such a mad forum.. I read the Irish section sometimes just to see how much BS can fit on my laptop screen at one time.

Sorry yeh, exactly, I forgot to add that they're mainly worried about how bad it reflects on themselves. The cops are going to be down on them like a ton of bricks now, though they should be looking at the people and groups featured in that epic cut and paste job manifesto as well.

Latchy · 25-07-2011 07:38PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I know only all too well about the north had somebody close to me died in it

my point was somebody doing this in one day or within hours.......

agree with your last point, spot on.

There' lot of anger and frustration out there now in society and Ireland has more than it fair share of it as you rightly say ,lot of worry and stress with personall finance and the windy ecomomy blowing hot and cold, but mainly cold .

So yes, even prior to this Massacre in Oslo there was ( and is ) the potential for somebody to go off on one for all kinds of reasons but tomorrow, next week or ten years from now is anybodys guess .

prinz · 25-07-2011 07:38PM

shadowninty wrote: »

The Tea Party is worth a mention too tbh...

I don't think so tbh. The Tea Party movement is a cross party movement not a group in it's own right, plus they seem to focus on relatively benign areas, reducing taxes, balancing budgets, auditing federal expenditure, in international relations some people associated with the Tea Party favour American isolationism, others the opposite, rather than trying to defend/enforce a particular ethnic or cultural ideal.

Mance Rayder · 25-07-2011 07:42PM

LondonIrish90 wrote: »

Russia today looks like the work of school kids who were doing a group project in media class. Like a lot of things in Russia, it is fairly shoddy.

The Russian Space program is not shoddy, NASA has to rely on them for everything nowadays. Have you ever been to Russia?

dsmythy · 25-07-2011 07:44PM

prinz wrote: »

They already have. Local government anyway. The Jobbik party in Hungary for example, the Lega Nord in Italy wouldn't be far away, the National Front in France, UKIP/BNP aren't a mile off... there is a reason these kinds of groups appeal to people however.

I don't know why you group UKIP in with the rest there.

Sardonicat · 25-07-2011 07:52PM

I've already heard someone say they are glad this happened as "it will wake "them" and it's about time "they" realised "we" are sick of the muslims blah, blah blah! Why should they come over here and..blah, blah, blah..."

All said with a disgusting smirk of satisfaction at the murder of tens of kids. Apparently, it was "good enough" for their parents, they might cop on now.

Be afraid folks. There are alot of morons like this out there.

Sir Oxman · 25-07-2011 08:03PM

prinz wrote: »

They already have. Local government anyway. The Jobbik party in Hungary for example, the Lega Nord in Italy wouldn't be far away, the National Front in France, UKIP/BNP aren't a mile off... there is a reason these kinds of groups appeal to people however.

FPO in Austria.
Vlaams Blok in Belgium.
DPP in Denmark.
Progress Party in Norway.
SVP in Switzerland.
Freedom Party in Netherlands.
True Finns in Finland.
Sweden democrats in Sweden.

Quite a collection with noticeable electoral support.

It's very surprising to me that the UK (specifically Britain) doesn't have a large, electorally successful political far-right party.

Jaafa · 25-07-2011 08:05PM

ter·ror·ism
[ter-uh-riz-uhm]
–noun
1.the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
2.the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3.a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

Has anyone else noticed that since it emerged that the killings where by a single Norwegian 'christian', the media have stopped calling the events terrorist attacks? They called them horrific,terrible,murders but not terrorist. Why?

Is what this man has done not the very definition of terror? Causing people as far as our little Island to fear similar events happening here?

What constitutes a terrorist attack these days?

Does it have to come from a group previously labelled as terrorist?
Does it have to come from abroad?
Does it have have a religious bases?
Or does it simply have to be a Muslim who carries out the attack?

Or have the media altered the definition of the word to only refer to specific events caused by a specific set of people?

What if the bombing had been carried out by a Muslim man who wanted to kill the PM for say his economic policy? Is it terrorist now?

Oslo bombed

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