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  • #722
    Full.Duck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Full.Duck


    Kids, fcuking kids. Im sick to my stomach. How the hell could any human being do this? He should be tortured for the rest of his life.


  • #723
    Cathaoirleach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 701 ✭✭✭Cathaoirleach


    Shocking video of the Utøya Massacre

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8fd_1311395602


  • #724
    df1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭df1985


    sure this has been said multiple times this morning but just flicked on the tv....91!? shocking.


  • #725
    Sacred_git
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 337 ✭✭Sacred_git


    PogMoThoin wrote: »
    Not sure if its been posted, here's a screen grab of his Facebook page
    http://www.ngohq.com/images/AndersBehringBreivikFB.jpg

    Appears to be quite the educated person, quite bizarre really, must of had a rocky road in life to become so twisted.

    RIP to the innocents. Love to Norway!


  • #726
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    WesternNight wrote: »
    Interestingly, those interests only look sinister/suspicious in hindsight.

    Sadly and as usual its not these interests the media are focusing on, but the fact that he's listed Call of Duty as an interest on his profile, typical
    http://www.google.ie/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8&ion=1&nord=1#sclient=psy&hl=en&nord=1&site=webhp&source=hp&q=Anders%20Behring%20Breivik%20call%20of%20duty&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=a1146ed1120e7b4f&ion=1&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=a1146ed1120e7b4f&ion=1&biw=1438&bih=944
    The Left Hand Of God wrote: »
    Someone tell the Daily Mail he played Modern Warfare 2 ....
    Exactly


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  • #727
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    BBC radio had an interview with a survivor, he was shot in the upper arm. He noted that he was confronted twice, the first time it was him alone and the killer chose not to pull the trigger. The second time the fella was in a group and the killer fired at the group. So it appears he needed to have an "anonymous" group to aim at rather than be able to eyeball someone close up.


  • #728
    Absurdum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    NRK reporting that a second arrest has been made :confused:


  • #729
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    mike65 wrote: »
    BBC radio had an interview with a survivor, he was shot in the upper arm. He noted that he was confronted twice, the first time it was him alone and the killer chose not to pull the trigger. The second time the fella was in a group and the killer fired at the group. So it appears he needed to have an "anonymous" group to aim at rather than be able to eyeball someone close up.

    Makes sense.


  • #730
    WesternNight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭WesternNight


    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    I still wouldn't see anything in them to suggest he is capable of blowing people up and shooting young people to be honest.

    No, nor would I. But what happens after these kinds of things is that people start kind of amateur profiling, going on about what kinds of TV shows and games he was interested in. And in hindsight those interests can be made to look like 'indicators'.


  • #731
    df1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭df1985


    sky just cant let the al qaeda thing go can they.....


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  • #732
    TheNardDawg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33 ✭TheNardDawg


    This must be the most people that one man has managed to kill in such a short space of time ever? Astonishing stuff


  • #733
    WesternNight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭WesternNight


    TheNardDawg wrote: »
    This must be the most people that one man has managed to kill in such a short space of time ever? Astonishing stuff

    Not to diminish this, but Jonestown would be one example of how much death one person can actually bring about...


  • #734
    Full.Duck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Full.Duck


    df1985 wrote: »
    sky just cant let the al qaeda thing go can they.....

    Because they are told to.


  • #735
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    WesternNight wrote: »
    No, nor would I. But what happens after these kinds of things is that people start kind of amateur profiling, going on about what kinds of TV shows and games he was interested in. And in hindsight those interests can be made to look like 'indicators'.

    Not really. Enjoying hunting or being conservative or christian don't equal homocidal maniac or child killer in my opinion.

    Plenty of people have the same interests or ideas and are perfectly normal.


  • #736
    Mr. Denton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Mr. Denton


    TheNardDawg wrote: »
    This must be the most people that one man has managed to kill in such a short space of time ever? Astonishing stuff

    Probably when it comes to gunfire alright.

    Here's some other notable overachievers.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers#Other_notable_incidents


  • #737
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    Not really. Enjoying hunting or being conservative or christian don't equal homocidal maniac or child killer in my opinion.

    Plenty of people have the same interests or ideas and are perfectly normal.

    JESUS CHRIST! HE PLAY CALL OF DUTY!!! WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED!!!:mad:
    LOCK 'EM UP!! EACH AND EVERYONE OF THEM!!


  • #738
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    df1985 wrote: »
    sky just cant let the al qaeda thing go can they.....

    I've been watching it on and off for the last two hours and Al Qaeda haven't metioned once......so yes they can let it go.


  • #739
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Malty_T wrote: »
    JESUS CHRIST! HE PLAY CALL OF DUTY!!! WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED!!!:mad:
    LOCK 'EM UP!! EACH AND EVERYONE OF THEM!!

    Can't tell if you're joking or not :confused:


  • #740
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    Can't tell if you're joking or not :confused:

    I am, sadly others aren't.:(


  • #741
    WesternNight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭WesternNight


    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    Not really. Enjoying hunting or being conservative or christian don't equal homocidal maniac or child killer in my opinion.

    Plenty of people have the same interests or ideas and are perfectly normal.

    I know that. I'm just saying that this is what people/the media tend to do in an attempt to explain how something like this can happen. Never said they were right to do so.

    The school shootings in the US, for example, one of the first pieces of information about the killers is what video games they play and are 'obsessed' with, or whatever. They imply that one causes the other.


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  • #742
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    WesternNight wrote: »
    I know that. I'm just saying that this is what people/the media tend to do in an attempt to explain how something like this can happen. Never said they were right to do so.

    The school shootings in the US, for example, one of the first pieces of information about the killers is what video games they play and are 'obsessed' with, or whatever. They imply that one causes the other.

    You can't ignore the influences that made him the way he is or led him to his actions.


  • #743
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭karma_


    Seanbeag1 wrote: »
    You can't ignore the influences that made him the way he is or led him to his actions.

    Are you seriously suggestion the games one plays can influence their political point of view? That would be just absurd.


  • #744
    WesternNight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭WesternNight


    Seanbeag1 wrote: »
    You can't ignore the influences that made him the way he is or led him to his actions.

    What? I have no idea what influences made him the way he is. How could I possibly ignore them when I don't know what they are?!

    If you're suggesting that his interests caused him to kill more than 90 people, then I'd put it to you that perhaps it could have been 'the way he is' that made him interested in particular things rather than the other way around. Or, alternatively - let's not assume stuff.


  • #745
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Seanbeag1 wrote: »
    You can't ignore the influences that made him the way he is or led him to his actions.

    Of course you can't but let the Police investigation team find those influences, speculating by media from facebook pages info and the like is deplorable!


  • #746
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    karma_ wrote: »
    Are you seriously suggestion the games one plays can influence their political point of view? That would be just absurd.

    How is it absurd? Some people do nothing but play online games. Where else would they get their influences? Maybe it's just a coinicdence his method of getting his message out was so similar to Call of Duty or maybe he was emulating it. Maybe his constant World of Warcraft playing made him slightly removed from reality. Is it really that hard to fathom?


  • #747
    Minstrel27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    Seanbeag1 wrote: »
    How is it absurd? Some people do nothing but play online games. Where else would they get their influences? Maybe it's just a coinicdence his method of getting his message out was so similar to Call of Duty or maybe he was emulating it. Maybe his constant World of Warcraft playing made him slightly removed from reality. Is it really that hard to fathom?

    It's true. Wasn't Hitler addicted to Command & Conquer? Your theory makes sense.


  • #748
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    It's true. Wasn't Hitler was addicted to Command & Conquer. Your theory makes sense.

    Hitler didn't wake up one day and decide he hated jews. A number of influences led him to this as well as his perceptions of what he saw around him.


  • #749
    philologos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    WesternNight wrote: »
    No, nor would I. But what happens after these kinds of things is that people start kind of amateur profiling, going on about what kinds of TV shows and games he was interested in. And in hindsight those interests can be made to look like 'indicators'.

    He's incredibly well read. Tragically unfortunate that a clearly intelligent individual could be manipulated towards wreaking such havoc.

    In fairness though, in hindsight any interest can be made to look like an indicator and I'm sure people with varying interests can be brought to such destruction.


  • #750
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Seanbeag1 wrote: »
    How is it absurd? Some people do nothing but play online games. Where else would they get their influences? Maybe it's just a coinicdence his method of getting his message out was so similar to Call of Duty or maybe he was emulating it. Maybe his constant World of Warcraft playing made him slightly removed from reality. Is it really that hard to fathom?

    If he was really playing WOW then he wouldn't even have had time to get outside his house.:pac:


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  • #751
    Thargor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,209 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Horrible pic here of him shooting people on the shore, probably NSFW:

    http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/129/3051/original.jpg


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