Oslo bombed

Kevin Duffy · 23-07-2011 12:40AM

Stinicker wrote: »

I am not trying to convince anyone of anything rather simply discussing possible motives for the attack like Sky News did earlier. Obviosuly something caused a person to do this, normal people don't wake up one morning and decide Gee, lets kill massacre some people today. It appears quite clear it was a disaffected fringe extremist who carried out todays attacks and I was trying to illustrate possible motives wheter it be islamic or homegrown terror.

What a crock. This is what you actually said;

Stinicker wrote: »

immigration appears to be the motive regardless of who is responsible.

Islamic immigration is undoubtedly the cause of this atrocity and as the first video shows it is not working in Norway with all the crime being committed by the newcomers against the natives.

prinz · 23-07-2011 12:40AM

Stinicker wrote: »

However there is already a thread on this over by the conspiracy theories forum.

Go join it. Already had Run_to_da_hills and his false flag/it was Mossad shíte here.

sollar · 23-07-2011 12:40AM

jill_valentine wrote: »

Don't feed the trolls.

Is this the stock answer to anyone who doesn't toe the liberal line.

OPENROAD · 23-07-2011 12:41AM

PseudoFamous wrote: »

Just out of interest, what channel are most people watching? BBC are interviewing some white Zimbabwean farmer, and Sky has turned American for the rest of the night. Obviously, I'm watching the internet hard.

Get the impression Sky News is the channel of choice of many

Watching BBC News myself, while getting all the speculation etc from AH

Sardonicat · 23-07-2011 12:41AM

scopper wrote: »

I understand what psychotic means. He lost touch with the norms of his society, its reality and change to a more open society, and innocent people suffered. He is the odd one here.

You clearly don't.

whiteboy · 23-07-2011 12:44AM

daily mail article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017709/MASSACRE-AT-KIDS-CAMP-More-30-dead-terrorist-opens-Norwegian-summer-camp-car-bomb-devastates-Oslo.html

PseudoFamous · 23-07-2011 12:44AM

OPENROAD wrote: »

Get the impression Sky News is the channel of choice of many

They're CBS now. And they're fearmongering like mad. I have never seen so many graphic pictures, wild claims about Al Qaeda's hitlist, and insinuations about more bombs being hidden in the city. No wonder that Americans are so jumpy, if this is what's shovelled into their faces daily.

SharpshooterTom · 23-07-2011 12:45AM

scopper wrote: »

This is like blaming a rape victim. The thing to do is to focus on the extremist right-wing logic that led to this i.e. the extremist perspective on immigration and multiculturalism.

How do you know it's anything to do with that?

You sound as irrational as the people who were blaming muslims in the first place.

He may not even be political. Look at Tuscon shooting earlier this year, everyone was trying to blame Sarah Palin and it just turned out the guy was weirdo with no leaning political affiliations.

scopper · 23-07-2011 12:46AM

Sardonicat wrote: »

You clearly don't.

Another insightful response. No wonder you are so popular.

prinz · 23-07-2011 12:47AM

PseudoFamous wrote: »

.... insinuations about more bombs being hidden in the city. No wonder that Americans are so jumpy, if this is what's shovelled into their faces daily.

In fairness that part came from the Norwegians, they were telling people to avoid bars, clubs, public places, and did evacuate the city centre tonight.

PseudoFamous · 23-07-2011 12:49AM

prinz wrote: »

In fairness that part came from the Norwegians, they were telling people to avoid bars, clubs, public places, and did evacuate the city centre tonight.

The way the newscaster said it was shocking though. Something along the lines of "Is it true that people are staying outside of the city centre out of fear of more bombs?" and then "Do you think there are other bombs in the city, Jeff?"

Sardonicat · 23-07-2011 12:50AM

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23-07-2011 12:53AM

When you have a bomb blast in Oslo, a suspicious package supposedly being sent to a media outlet and a shooting on a small island, which are all seemingly connected, then surely it is reasonable to assume there might be more bombs elsewhere.

randylonghorn · 23-07-2011 01:32AM

Or looking at it another way, it's probably foolish to assume there are not, at least until you can get a clear picture of who is responsible, whether it's a solo run or orchestrated, etc. etc.

sherdydan · 23-07-2011 02:56AM

Police say 80 at least killed on the island, this is from reuters so is the real deal.

****ing sickening

Duggy747 · 23-07-2011 02:58AM

Police at press conference, at TV2, at least 80 dead at Utøya. The number may rise somewhat according to police director

No. Fùckin'. Way.

From the pictures I've seen I was expecting more than 10 dead, but 80?

That can't be right.

EDIT: Swedish guy just told me it was on the news over there. 87 dead so far...........unbelievable.

Funkfield · 23-07-2011 03:06AM

Holy fúck.

I feel sick. This is unbelievable.

Those poor people and their families.

The Internet Explorer · 23-07-2011 03:07AM

Sickening it is true. Massively unbelievable it is true. Rest in Peace unfortunate young people.

Columbia · 23-07-2011 03:08AM

At least 80 shot dead on Utoya, mostly aged between 14 and 18, and police still say it could rise further

PseudoFamous · 23-07-2011 03:11AM

I think that may be the record for a shooting spree. Absolute shitbag to do such a thing to so many innocent kids.

Duggy747 · 23-07-2011 03:12AM

As awful as it may sound but I'm glad he was captured alive.

At least the public, the victims and their families can have some sort of understanding as to what..........apparently thought-out plan this sick fùck had.

The answer won't be enough but at least it'll be something.

Soundsto me like the bomb was just the diversion, the shooting was his main priority on that island.

The Internet Explorer · 23-07-2011 03:13AM

I certainly agree, I thought the same.

EDIT: Agree with the fact that he was captured alive as opposed to the diversion, which I also happen to agree with.

Morlar · 23-07-2011 03:14AM

80 dead at the island . . .. that is a lot worse than I thought it would get. The news is also saying there is not thought to be any islamist connection. So he is some kind of 32yr old homegrown, non-islamist, domestic terrorist. I don't even know how to describe someone like that.

J. Marston · 23-07-2011 03:14AM

Columbia wrote: »

At least 80 shot dead on Utoya, mostly aged between 14 and 18, and police still say it could rise further

Jesus Christ, 80? Last time I checked the news it was 30 dead. Mostly young too, so tragic

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Sardonicat · 23-07-2011 03:16AM

Awful, but not surprising. A witness reported that he was calling them to him, offering help. They were kids, they'd heard shooting, they were panicking, he was dressed as a policeman.... Jesus H. Christ.

They were stuck on an island with a murderous gunman. It was easy pickings for him. And then there are those unfortunate kids who may have drowned.

A massacre.

RIP.

SharpshooterTom · 23-07-2011 03:19AM

Morlar wrote: »

I don't even know how to describe someone like that.

A nutter, simply a nutter.

His facebook had his favourite books on 1984 etc. Paranoid loon.

raveni · 23-07-2011 03:20AM

Unbelievable how one person could carry out all this.
Reuters confirming that Norway police say at least 80 have died: link
On sky news too: link

Duggy747 wrote: »

As awful as it may sound but I'm glad he was captured alive.

At least the public, the victims and their families can have some sort of understanding as to what..........apparently thought-out plan this sick fùck had.

The answer won't be enough but at least it'll be something.

Soundsto me like the bomb was just the diversion, the shooting was his main priority on that island.

True, at least they will hopefully get some kind of closure and see justice served. It's unimaginable what so many must be going through right now.

PseudoFamous · 23-07-2011 03:20AM

I'm going to have to sadly verify my own thoughts. The Oslo/Utoya attack is the worst killing spree on record with 87+ victims, the previous worst was 44.

Morlar · 23-07-2011 03:22AM

Gnobe wrote: »

A nutter, simply a nutter.

His facebook had his favourite books on 1984 etc. Paranoid loon.

I think he will be in solitary for the rest of his miserable life, either that or killed in prison as soon as he is put in with the rest of them.

Duggy747 · 23-07-2011 03:24AM

Demented bastard had a vendetta against that island, he knew what he was up to and had this planned, presumably, for a long time. Maybe not alone, either, and did this to represent something (far-right group maybe?)

I'm conflicted, though. Everywhere on the net today I saw nothing but pure and utter hatred towards Muslims surface. It's always existed but today was exceptionally vile.

Ok, there were reasons as to why Norway may have been targeted by an Islamic extremist group but once we were slowly drip-fed information and learnt this was a Norwegian the whole immigration hatred vapourised initially.

Someone, somewhere is seeing this as just-desert.

I'm just spitballing, of course, but I think this guy will represent a complete opposite of the spectrum. Of what people expect to happen in their own societies in this day and age of attacks of this magnitude. Wouldn't be surprised if he was a hard-line guy against immigration / anti-multiculturalism / anti-Islam / all that mullarkey.

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