Can we start to feel optimistic again?

Zebra3 · 21-07-2011 11:39PM

Dangerous Man wrote: »

Note to mods: I know there's a billion threads on religion and politics but I'd prefer if this wasn't moved / deleted as it's coming from a different angle than most.

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Anyway - can we feel optimistic? I made the note in another post that the past couple of days have been good for the country. The Vatican were put in their place by Enda Kenny and it appears as though we have a leader, however initially unlikely, that has guts. Today, Ireland received a massive reduction in their interest rate and didn't cave in to French demands for a reduction in our corporation tax rate - another point for Kenny who stubbornly refused French pressure.

Are we finally headed in the right direction? I personally think these may represent green shoots. Thoughts?

We're being charged credit cardesque percentage on the repayments of debts that are not ours.

Inda made one statement on what everyone's known for donkey's years and has given no indication that tough action will be taken against the RC rapists and terrorists or their protectors.

Unemployment is what, 15%? And not exactly trending down.

Emigration is rife.

People can't afford to pay their bills.

Houses are being repossesed.

Oh, and the weather is shite.

You'll have to excuse me for not feeling like Henry Winkler in a crap sitcom. :rolleyes:

Jess16 · 22-07-2011 12:04AM

starbelgrade wrote: »

Yes it is.

ColHol wrote: »

yes you can

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

What joke?

Ok stick a fork in me -I'm done!

D1stant · 22-07-2011 12:05AM

Oh no it isnt

Kenny scolding the Vatican? So what? I could scold a cow for ****ting on my foot with the same effect. He would not have the will or means to do anything about it

And now we have a longer mortgage... tinkering at the edges.

ascanbe · 22-07-2011 12:06AM

Well, apparently, Enda Kenny has a really old mobile-phone, so i'd say we're back on easy-street.

coconut5 · 22-07-2011 12:12AM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Houses are being repossesed.

How many? Not that many.

holystungun9 · 22-07-2011 12:14AM

punchdrunk wrote: »

**checks wallet**

**checks online banking**

"it's not so good Al!"

I had to re-read that, I thought it was haiku! Redid it for you in Haiku (5, 7, 5 syllables) cos I can't sleep.

man checking wallet,
he checks online banking too,
not so good at all.

Can't believe I'm posting this, lack of sleep is a biatch!

Awh fup it, can't leave that alone now either. Let me see......

Lack of sleep is hell,
Just crushed another cockroach,
Where to go from here?

sollar · 22-07-2011 12:17AM

Great news today on the bailout rate - Kids get on the property ladder now while you can... hurry!

Ulysses Gaze · 22-07-2011 12:18AM

And just think...if this depression follows the 1929 one, we're only 3 years into a 10 year depressive cycle!

Great news today on the bailout rate - Kids get on the property ladder now while you can... hurry!

Yes, to quote that sage of economics Brendan O'Connor

'There no such thing as a good or bad time to buy. It's always a good time to buy!'

fiinch · 22-07-2011 12:24AM

your neutralness, it's a beige alert

landsleaving · 22-07-2011 12:26AM

holystungun9 wrote: »

Lack of sleep is hell,
Just crushed another cockroach,
Where to go from here?

That's pretty deep, man.

ascanbe · 22-07-2011 12:26AM

sollar wrote: »

Great news today on the bailout rate - Kids get on the property ladder now while you can... hurry!

I'm hearing that the 'boom' caused by this news has actually destroyed the ladder, so it's going to be more of a free-for-all scramble this time.

sollar · 22-07-2011 12:28AM

ascanbe wrote: »

I'm hearing that the 'boom' caused by this news has actually destroyed the ladder, so it's going to be more of a free-for-all scramble this time.

Don't worry just borrow as much as you can.

landsleaving · 22-07-2011 12:29AM

ascanbe wrote: »

I'm hearing that the 'boom' caused by this news has actually destroyed the ladder, so it's going to be more of a free-for-all scramble this time.

Skip to 2.50...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ9DJZAoq3g

Latchy · 22-07-2011 12:30AM

Gumbi wrote: »

Lots of obese people still walking around, I don't think we're in real trouble.

^ This .It's not over till the fat lady sings

A bit of breathing space is always good as long as Ireland keeps it's eye on the game as much as the ball .

guitarzero · 22-07-2011 12:33AM

When the churches are safe to walk through so I can kneel, when I can buy more gagdets, newer gadgets, more shít, more work, more savings, more of everything then yes, more nice cars, more, MORE, MORE!!!Then yeah, I will be optimistic.

ascanbe · 22-07-2011 12:48AM

Gumbi wrote: »

Lots of obese people still walking around, I don't think we're in real trouble.

Plenty of meat on them, alright, if it comes to that.

Belly_Dancer · 22-07-2011 12:52AM

Yes the news today has been very welcome, very positive.
I don't believe we're outta the woods just yet, but at least we appear to be heading in the right direction.

Under the last "Govt" we were just aimlessly wandering around in circles.

Kenny has proven a lot of people wrong, and I hope he continues to do so. I would like to see him propose a 2nd Republic.
It would be no bad thing to bin deValera's priest infested 1937 constitution and redraft a more meaningful and modern one.

Perhaps 2016 might be the time to do so?

landsleaving · 22-07-2011 12:54AM

We could even storm the GPO, I'd like to thwok some of those rude counter staff who work there.

guitarzero · 22-07-2011 01:01AM

Me too! I feel FG new reign of glory will bring a new epoch of wealth, good health service, money, general happiness and perhaps more FG propagandists on boards. Here's to Kenny.

Zebra3 · 22-07-2011 01:57AM

coconut5 wrote: »

How many? Not that many.

Banks who have been given huge sums of money by the taxpayer without their consent are throwing people onto the streets.

1 is too many.

coconut5 · 22-07-2011 02:03AM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Banks who have been given huge sums of money by the taxpayer without their consent are throwing people onto the streets.

1 is too many.

Yeah, but the numbers are very little. So much hype and rubbish.

Firefox11 · 22-07-2011 03:44AM

Got a good pay rise this year and one one of the best company bonuses ever. Things are definitely looking up.

Didn't vote for FG/lab but i have been surprised at how well they have done so far.

fat__tony · 22-07-2011 04:30AM

Firefox11 wrote: »

Got a good pay rise this year and one one of the best company bonuses ever. Things are definitely looking up.

Didn't vote for FG/lab but i have been surprised at how well they have done so far.

Yep, you really needed to brag about that on the internet didn't you?

Stop being such a twat, nobody give a **** about your pay rise.

philologos · 22-07-2011 09:25AM

Dangerous Man wrote: »

Today, Ireland received a massive reduction in their interest rate and didn't cave in to French demands for a reduction in our corporation tax rate - another point for Kenny who stubbornly refused French pressure.

I don't know if we aren't going to cave into them yet. From the Guardian :

10. We are determined to continue to provide support to countries under programmes until they have regained market access, provided they successfully implement those programmes. We welcome Ireland and Portugal's resolve to strictly implement their programmes and reiterate our strong commitment to the success of these programmes. The EFSF lending rates and maturities we agreed upon for Greece will be applied also for Portugal and Ireland. In this context, we note Ireland's willingness to participate constructively in the discussions on the Common Consolidated Corporate Tax Base draft directive (CCCTB) and in the structured discussions on tax policy issues in the framework of the Euro+ Pact framework.

ilovesleep · 22-07-2011 09:47AM

@ philologos, that is what I said in the internship thread. That we are going to be raped over the corporate tax and it is going to be balanced out by giving free labour.

Dangerous Man · 22-07-2011 04:42PM

So it would appear so far that most aren't interpreting recent events as a pre-cursor for things to come. Personally speaking, I really do want to see recent events as potential for change. I dunno... maybe the gov can take the 600 - 800m and invest it into a job creation strategy.

Oh, I should point out - I have no loyalty to Fine Gael. I've been a consistent Labour supporter since reaching the legal voting age. (And that hasn't worked out too welll...)

Noopti · 22-07-2011 04:47PM

Participate constructively? haha.....all that means is Kenny needs to sit and listen and feign interest. That doesn't commit us to anything.

Can we start to feel optimistic again?

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