do you look at middle eastern types differently now?

jimthemental · 15-07-2011 03:40PM

barone wrote: »

no idea what a nordie is but i agree,anyone can be a bomber, my question was about a specific type though if you read the op title

Someone with a Northern Ireland accent.

kraggy · 15-07-2011 03:40PM

Middles Eastern and sporting a beard you say?

Hummus be up to something me thinks.

Fozzydog3 · 15-07-2011 03:41PM

yes i see them differently than i did 3 years ago thank god

the amount of disgusting yank propaganda bullsh!t i've had thrown at me for almost 2/3 of my life I'll never forgive them (american media) for instilling so much fear and hatred in me

LondonIrish90 · 15-07-2011 03:43PM

SV wrote: »

It's well known in the "International intelligence community" as you put it..that Ireland is a major target for Al Qaeda.
So I wouldn't say the 'fears' are completely unfounded

If you live with the feeling of suspicion in the back of your mind of an militant Islamic attack while living in Galway, I can't imagine the tension and nerves you would feel in every moment of every day were you to move to London, Paris, Berlin etc. You say major, and yet for all of the reading I have done on the subject, I have come across no more than 2 or 3 references to cells based in Ireland.

Btw, you clearly have an issue with the way "I put it" and not being the expert on espionage as you so clearly are, how would you put it?

Kells... · 15-07-2011 03:46PM

rorymcgrory wrote: »

I live 2 doors up from a bunch of Arab/Muslim/whatevers. Friendly enough but I still wouldn't trust them

Why not it's not like there any different from us except a different religion,Different beliefs.

There still people.

Kevin Duffy · 15-07-2011 03:47PM

OP, I'd say you have mild prejudices based on the amount of media-driven hysteria we are forced to experience. Anyone who says they are not prejudiced is lying, we all have them.
Racism is a whole different ballgame, it's what happens when you put prejudice into a weak, small mind. If you're questioning your prejudice and not being guided in your actions by it, then I think it's quite safe to say you're not a racist. Unlike, oh, say, these unreconstructed bigots;

Sweatynutsack wrote: »

Not terrorists but they are filthy

careca11 wrote: »

nah I don't be worried about the muslims at all , at least they would have the decency to say hello back to you ,

I'm more worried about gangs of Africans and Romanians and general drug addicts wandering the street's looking at every single opportunity to mug you, scam your card etc , plus i personally find the Africans very very ignorant.....................................and thats from personal experience

anawfulbogey · 15-07-2011 03:54PM

Disappointing that this is even an issue tbh given our own recent history and attitudes towards Irish people 'across the water' not too long ago. Under what rationale would a muslim person even under the unlikely circumstance they were terrorists be a threat to an Irish citizen on Irish soil?

Fratton Fred · 15-07-2011 03:57PM

barone wrote: »

occured to me today as i said hello to a couple of muslim people ( i say muslim because she was veiled,i may be wrong) that i see almost daily during my work,

the man said hello as we usually do but instantly i said to myself, i wonder are they in a sleeper cell !!!!

stupid i know but got me thinking that whenever i see middle eastern types, with the beard,the same type clothes,huddled together talking,or on the phone im paranoid they are up to something.. is it just me?

damm jack bauer and america :mad:

id imagine the first few replies will attemt to slate me for racism and others will pull something from my post to make a joke with, its ah so im expecting it, make it funny because im not racist to these people, im polite with everyone.

Londoners used to think the same thing about the Irish during the 70s and 80s.

Actually, they didn't, but they would have as much cause back then to view the Irish with suspicion as the Irish of today would have to view Muslims with suspicion.

I know a lot of Muslims. I've worked with Muslims, I went to school with Muslims and lived in an estate which was about 25% Muslim.

You should be no more worried about them than you should anyone else you see on the street.

If you see one on a train carrying a backpack though........

LondonIrish90 · 15-07-2011 03:58PM

anawfulbogey wrote: »

Disappointing that this is even an issue tbh given our own recent history and attitudes towards Irish people 'across the water' not too long ago. Under what rationale would a muslim person even under the unlikely circumstance they were terrorists be a threat to an Irish citizen on Irish soil?

eh?

Do you understand the mentality and ambitions of many of the extremist islamic organisations that exist in the world? As much as I think the OP need not live in fear, to think there is no way Ireland would not be a target because it doesnt get involved in international conflict is very naive.

Gmol · 15-07-2011 04:12PM

sensibleken wrote: »

It means your a racist

Being a racist never hurt anyone ...oh wait

stovelid · 15-07-2011 04:15PM

No.

I'm still inexplicably aroused by the mots in ninja gear.

anawfulbogey · 15-07-2011 04:19PM

LondonIrish90 wrote: »

eh?

Do you understand the mentality and ambitions of many of the extremist islamic organisations that exist in the world? As much as I think the OP need not live in fear, to think there is no way Ireland would not be a target because it doesnt get involved in international conflict is very naive.

Its rather not naive but realistic. What benefit would come from attacking a small neutral island off the west coast of Europe? With respect, given your username and location I would imagine your view has been coloured somewhat by the events in that city 4 years ago and the media saturation of the subject. Ireland is a very different society, thankfully.

Latchy · 15-07-2011 04:22PM

At this stage I'm probably just indifferent to any middle eastern types I come across in the same way they might be with white skinned , western europen types ie , me . However whenever I pop in to do the lottory , I still smile and say thank you to my dark skinned newsagent .

COYW · 15-07-2011 04:23PM

I have worked with Hindu and Muslim people. All were very hard-working and a pleasure to be around in a work and social environment. Decent people. We could do with more of them in this country.

annascott · 15-07-2011 04:27PM

Not just you. My work links me with people from many weird and wonderful places including Afghanistan. I am always polite, friendly and welcoming. (I even had to learn a little Arabic!) However, deep down there is always a feeling of unease.

Four years ago, I was on a tube train in London. Two Middle Eastern looking guys got on with rucksacks. Of course, no one said anything and nothing happened, but the fear. Oh man, the fear....

DEFTLEFTHAND · 15-07-2011 04:48PM

annascott wrote: »

Not just you. My work links me with people from many weird and wonderful places including Afghanistan. I am always polite, friendly and welcoming. (I even had to learn a little Arabic!) However, deep down there is always a feeling of unease.

Four years ago, I was on a tube train in London. Two Middle Eastern looking guys got on with rucksacks. Of course, no one said anything and nothing happened, but the fear. Oh man, the fear....

I'd say not too long ago the Irish accent would have also instilled fear in Londoners.

CrazyRabbit · 15-07-2011 05:00PM

I view Muslims in the same way I view most religious people. I see them to be like Neanderthals dancing around a fire worshipping the moon God...blissfully ignorant of the truth.

And no, I'm not an athiest.

barone · 15-07-2011 05:01PM

a few good points there about the irish in england and why would i think they are gonna bomb galway/ireland etc
i understand your views,id also like to thank the lad who said i wasnt racist , thank you,

i am questioning why i think like this, i KNOW why i do,im just not happy about it,nor atm can i help it, as i said before,if i saw them dressed as westerners walking down the street id think nothing of it im sure of that.

if i saw them walking down the street wearing hijabs or burqa's ,or the long dress type garmet the lads wear id straight away be a bit suspicious of them.

what if they are terrorists and see me looking suspiciously at them,and decide to take me out

and not for dinner !

thats a joke but now im thinking it for real.

i should perhaps be suspicious of everyone with a american accent

Royal Irish · 15-07-2011 05:19PM

I could never trust anyone who doesnt like a nice sausage sammich.

Nodin · 15-07-2011 05:22PM

barone wrote: »

a few good points there about the irish in england and why would i think they are gonna bomb galway/ireland etc
i understand your views,id also like to thank the lad who said i wasnt racist , thank you,

i am questioning why i think like this, ........

Years of stereotyping. It's not that difficult.

LondonIrish90 · 15-07-2011 05:24PM

anawfulbogey wrote: »

Its rather not naive but realistic. What benefit would come from attacking a small neutral island off the west coast of Europe? With respect, given your username and location I would imagine your view has been coloured somewhat by the events in that city 4 years ago and the media saturation of the subject. Ireland is a very different society, thankfully.

I believe that what you are doing here, is mistaking suicide bombers who want to kill as many innocent people on their way to work as possible, with men of compassion and reason.

checkyabadself · 15-07-2011 05:31PM

I don't view people from Kildare any differently than I ever did. It is mean to assume that because someone is from the middle east that they aren't to be trusted.

Annasopra · 15-07-2011 05:35PM

rorymcgrory wrote: »

I live 2 doors up from a bunch of Arab/Muslim/whatevers. Friendly enough but I still wouldn't trust them

what is an Arab/Muslim/whatever?

Celly Smunt · 15-07-2011 05:41PM

kurd,iraqi whats the difference?

Mr. Denton · 15-07-2011 05:43PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

kurd,iraqi whats the difference?

Agreed. They're all a bunch of Shi'ites.

anawfulbogey · 15-07-2011 05:47PM

LondonIrish90 wrote: »

I believe that what you are doing here, is mistaking suicide bombers who want to kill as many innocent people on their way to work as possible, with men of compassion and reason.

So any muslim is a potential suicide bomber? Is that the logic? May I ask are you 1st or 2nd generation Irish and age? It's fairly relevant to your own stance....

Celly Smunt · 15-07-2011 05:49PM

anawfulbogey wrote: »

So any muslim is a potential suicide bomber? Is that the logic?

but he didn't say that?

Knasher · 15-07-2011 05:53PM

Whenever I see a woman in a burka, I always think to myself; if I ever need to rob a bank that is what I'm wearing. Completely covers the face, you can walk around in public already disguised and loose so it is easy to conceal a weapon in it. I actually can't think of a way I could make it more ideal for robbing banks.

LondonIrish90 · 15-07-2011 05:55PM

anawfulbogey wrote: »

So any muslim is a potential suicide bomber? Is that the logic? May I ask are you 1st or 2nd generation Irish and age? It's fairly relevant to your own stance....

errrrr... no.

You said that you didn't think there was any reason for Islamic terrorists to target Ireland. I was saying that reason is not really something I would associate with suicide bombers.

I've literally no idea as to where you plucked that from!

anawfulbogey · 15-07-2011 05:56PM

''I believe that what you are doing here, is mistaking suicide bombers who want to kill as many innocent people on their way to work as possible, with men of compassion and reason.''

From here.

do you look at middle eastern types differently now?

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