has anyone here ever seen a funeral of a suicide casualty?

It seems like a selfish act to me, but I guess that is just my opinion.

I imagine that the person committing suicide feels that things are too difficult to continue and just wants to give up and escape rather than fight onward.

But what he/she is really doing, even if they don't realise it at the time, is transferring their difficulties, burdens and grief to those that love and care for them.

So even though the person all their lives might have been the most caring and selfless person, I think committing suicide is selfish as it solves absolutely no problems, except ending their own hardship, and causes unimaginable grief for their loved ones.

Obviously people who have had loved ones commit suicide have a completly different persepective on this so I would cede to their experience, but that's the way I feel about it.

Orando Broom wrote: »

When you see how many people are crushed, destroyed by it you'd fücking agree. So stick your roll eyes where the sun don't shine.

I'll refrain from really expressing my true feelings for you for fear of a ban.

If anyone thought about who they leave behind and the emotional wreckage left they might think twice about going through with it.

You have to call a spade a spade.

Comments like "suicide is selfish" and " won't they think of the children" etc make my blood boil and goes even further to create an even bigger stigma that surrounds mental health in this country.

People who comment suicide are not thinking rationally at the time.

Have been to a couple unfortunately one was a guy who hung himself after a row with his girlfriend. It came a month after a local girl passed away from cancer. It was an odd situation two funerals of two local young people from two very different circumstances. Grief still the same though.

What an uplifting thread.

Yup, 1st cosuin also and only a year and a half ago.

hondasam wrote: »

That comment is unfair if it is aimed at me.

I know people who commit suicide are not thinking rationally.

I should not have posted in this thread and you know why.

I used that phras because it is a catch all comment to indicate outrage. It wasnt aimed at anyone.

A friend of mine went when we were a few weeks into secondary school. Shocking. I remember his mother had to be held back a bit from the grave when he was being lowered in, for her own safety.

Young people and suicides are shocking funerals.

Wow, very sad thread. I'm surprised to see that so many people are affected by suicide. Naive of me, yes. I have been through a few but never attended the funerals. I just couldn't do it.

To say that these people are selfish, imo, is a horrible thing to say. But that's opinion and we're all entitled ot one. People who commit suicide are just not thinking rationally and depression is a bloody hard thing to get through. I have so much respect for the people who manage to get through it and come out of it in a positive way but not everyone can. Most people find it hard to talk to people at all, especially through a rough term of depression, and it's these people that need the most help and love.

They certainly don't need to be told that they are creating a further issue by going down the suicide route and that they're being selfish. Agent Oso, I'm glad that you are feeling better now and hope things are going well! Obv that worked for you though and you don't seem to be holding a grudge.

I say the above however, because, the people I knew and stories I've heard about commiting suicide were about the type of people who became depressed because they thought that they WERE a burden. They thought that the reason their family or friends were having such a tough time was their fault. Be it grades at school/ work/ relationships - nearly anything at all, they just didn't want to talk about it, didn't want to be seen as a failure and didn't want to continue living down to the thought that they would make things worse for their loved ones. I could never see this as a selfish act. I wouldn't be quick to glorify it but condemning them isn't right imo.

Morlar wrote: »

I have been to one also. There does seem to be an epidemic of white males committing suicide over the last few years.

If these rates were among women or if they were among the 'new Irish' community then I believe there would be a lot more media and political focus on it.

Interestedly, suicide attempts are pretty equal across the sexes. Males are mire successful at it due to the nature of how they do it. Men normally choose a more violent end, hanging, fire arm etc
While women tend to use less violent methods, drug over dose etc.