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Clothing, style, and dapper lesbians...

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    Aishae wrote: »
    glad the old door opening isnt a dying art! i always held a door open if there was someone approaching from the other direction/behind me - partly as it what mam drummed into me but also - i never saw a reason not to do that.
    im such a gentlemanly femme haha.

    I'm the same yet saying thanks is also polite which 70 % of the people I have held doors for have not said


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭apache


    zoegh wrote: »
    I don't see those stone butch types around anymore, they used to congregate in that corner of the george by the door.

    I'm sure now though I look scary and butch to some of the little lesbians who do come in to Panti when I'm there... although tbh not many young wans come in to Panti!!!

    And is 'blending in' the desirable thing? I don't really want to blend in at all...
    i think this is a very interesting topic and maybe merits a thread of its own?
    they are still around zoegh. (the stone cold butches)
    i for one find them very interesting.

    i don't think blending in is the desirable thing but coming out today is far easier than it used to be in my opinion regarding the butch vs femme persona. i don't see many of one persuasion in the younger generation. they do blend in. life is easier for them and kudos for them. i may be classed as one thing. but i am just me. i don't regard myself as anything yet others might. ok i may be a bit on the butcher side :P
    see its confusing. some say i am. some say i'm not. i would think i am very obvious yet i still get straight guys hitting on me and when i came out in work most people were shocked. i found this shocking in itself :P

    and what about femmes who are attracted to femmes and the butches who are attracted to butches?

    i could go on here but it is a political minefield and i have not the time to do it justice as i have to be up early for work in the morning.

    deffo food for thought :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭apache


    Kanoe wrote: »
    I'm almost afraid to say what I really want here but I'm guessing the people I'm thinking about probably don't have much experience in dragging their knuckles across anything much..other than the floor so doubt they know how a keyboard functions so I should be safe. The "butch" women around these here parts are of the jailburd prison tattoo psychotic personality variety..not sure it's the look I would be going for myself personally.
    well you've said it :P

    i think these women who you talk about have seen life from a different angle with a whole different set of life experiences. i won't take that away from them. that is what they are.

    that is why i think in essence that nobody represents me. we are all diverse.

    a lesbian's life goes from one spectrum to another. just because they are a lesbian does not mean that we identify with them and we should not have to.

    you are you at the end of the day.

    and now i shall retire :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Kanoe


    honestly, I don't care what they look like they just don't happen to be very nice people. I know this because I've had to deal with their spit in passing. (edit: although maybe I'm being naive, maybe that's how they hit on newcomers around here)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    kanoe wrote:
    The "butch" women around these here parts are of the jailburd prison tattoo psychotic personality variety..not sure it's the look I would be going for myself personally.

    This is what I'm terrified of also, of being thought of in those terms... mean I have a tattoo but it's all purple and pretty... :p

    There are some interesting discussions about the whole idea of butch identity. I think I might start up a new thread, actually, see where it goes. We've kind of gone a bit off topic on this one.

    Back to style though, what do people see as that "butch" style? Is it cut, is it colour, is it style?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭apache


    Kanoe wrote: »
    honestly, I don't care what they look like they just don't happen to be very nice people. I know this because I've had to deal with their spit in passing.
    do you want me to sort them out for you?
    the cheek of them!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Kanoe


    oh hey I have tattoo's, tattoo's are great. I just know where they got theirs.
    do you want me to sort them out for you?
    the cheek of them!
    na, I got this one ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Kanoe


    sexy..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    You guys need a room :p;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    Kanoe- did you just say sexy because it was post 69? :p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Kanoe


    I love it when my posts are in context


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Kanoe


    zoegh wrote: »

    Back to style though, what do people see as that "butch" style? Is it cut, is it colour, is it style?
    Thinks it's more a state of mind, in terms of style I like the gentlemanly aspect you describe, it just says a lot about a person and I think some women carry it really well, but I do like something edgy myself. and i'm not sure how I would feel if another woman opened a door for me..I'd probably be a bit put out :confused:...which says a bit about how I think about myself..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    kanoe wrote:
    i'm not sure how I would feel if another woman opened a door for me..I'd probably be a bit put out :confused: ...which says a bit about how I think about myself..

    Hahah, me too. Guess that's why I make sure I do the door opening and chair holding!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭Fancy That


    Hi all, The clothes thing is pretty important to me tbh!! A a gay woman I love clothes, keeping up with fashion and dressing femme.

    The one thing I find hard to grasp is why lesbians are so into the whole butch dressing, big boots and overall looking as much like a fella as a girl can when the fact is we are gay an dont like anything to do with men? Yet some go out of their way to look as masculine as can be. Kinda baffles me....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭MsBojangles


    Fancy That wrote: »
    the fact is we are gay an dont like anything to do with men?

    Speak for yourself hun


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭Fancy That


    Apologies that post was a little vague. I basically meant no attraction to their appearance but yet some girls like to look that way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭MsBojangles


    Fancy That wrote: »
    Apologies that post was a little vague. I basically meant no attraction to their appearance but yet some girls like to look that way.

    Not sure thats to do with sexuality .
    You could meet a hippy with curly hair who is not attracted to hippies with curly hair


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Kanoe


    wut?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    Fancy That wrote: »
    Apologies that post was a little vague. I basically meant no attraction to their appearance but yet some girls like to look that way.

    Dunno, there's a lot to be said for the comfort factor associated with butchier dressing :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭MsBojangles


    just because your not attracted to people who dress a certain way , does not mean that you don't like that style for yourself


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    I think there's always going to be people who find certain 'looks' attractive, and others less so. I'm gay, but I don't favour the hyper girly kind of girls. I've gotten talking to quite a few gay girls online who find the mix of masculine and feminine very appealing.

    Also, a lot of people don't dress solely to attract partners, they dress in clothes they like and feel comfortable in. For a lot of people, the confidence that they exude when they feel so comfortable is very attractive, and that translates into finding them hot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭apache


    Speak for yourself hun
    how do you make your txt purple?

    ohi figured it out all by myself
    it can be any colour you want it to be


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    Fancy That wrote: »
    Hi all, The clothes thing is pretty important to me tbh!! A a gay woman I love clothes, keeping up with fashion and dressing femme.

    The one thing I find hard to grasp is why lesbians are so into the whole butch dressing, big boots and overall looking as much like a fella as a girl can when the fact is we are gay an dont like anything to do with men? Yet some go out of their way to look as masculine as can be. Kinda baffles me....

    The qualifying factor for being a lesbian is that you're not attracted to men, you can still be attracted to masculinity.

    Otherwise, I don't know what makes someone butch, I think you either have it or you don't, and try as you might if you don't have it you just end up looking slightly silly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭jaffacakesyum


    Chuchoter wrote: »
    The qualifying factor for being a lesbian is that you're not attracted to men, you can still be attracted to masculinity.

    Otherwise, I don't know what makes someone butch, I think you either have it or you don't, and try as you might if you don't have it you just end up looking slightly silly.

    Interesting... I've always also wondered why so many (the majority as far as I can tell!) of lesbians are attracted to the butch type who wear more masculine clothes.

    Why do you think women are attracted to masculinity though? I understand that they can be attracted to masculinity while not being attracted to men, but to quote a friend of mine ''I'm gay. I like girls. If I wanted someone who looked or dressed or acted like a guy, I'd date a guy!!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Kanoe


    Different women like different things, no?

    There was another thread dealing with this particular topic a little while ago here goes into a little bit more detail on the subject.


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