The Circus

Forest Master · 05-07-2011 08:35PM #1

So, what's everyone's opinion on this? I drove by Duffy's today in Clontarf (Dublin) and saw a big sign that said "More animals than ever" and it made my blood boil.

I think the ones that have animals are disgusting. Keeping all of these animals locked up in horrible conditions and whipped into doing tricks is absolutely vile.

I also wonder how it's actually legal to keep these animals? Surely you need a permit? Why is this still allowed? I guarantee if I wanted to keep a Lion in my garden, Fingal Coco would be all over me - no chance. So why are these scumbag inbred clowns (pun intended) allowed to keep dozens of large African animals in cages and transport them around the country in trucks to perform? The govt enforces leash laws yet this sh*t is still acceptable? WTF?

I'd never take my kids to see this.

:mad:

Edit: link here to some protests:
http://www.widget.demotix.com/news/52774/more-animals-ever-protest
http://www.vegaplanet.org/?p=551

05-07-2011 08:36PM

The best circus i ever went to as a kid was the one with no animals in it

deisedave · 05-07-2011 08:38PM

Forest Master wrote: »

So, what's everyone's opinion on this? I drove by Duffy's today in Clontarf (Dublin) and saw a big sign that said "More animals than ever" and it made my blood boil.

I think the ones that have animals are disgusting. Keeping all of these animals locked up in horrible conditions and whipped into doing tricks is absolutely vile.

I also wonder how it's actually legal to keep these animals? Surely you need a permit? Why is this still allowed? I guarantee if I wanted to keep a Lion in my garden, Fingal Coco would be all over me - no chance. So why are these scumbag inbred clowns (pun intended) allowed to keep dozens of large African animals in cages and transport them around the country in trucks to perform? The govt enforces leash laws yet this sh*t is still acceptable? WTF?

I'd never take my kids to see this.

:mad:

Ah but there so cute

It is very cruel in fairness

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Nodin · 05-07-2011 08:38PM

Forest Master wrote: »

So, what's everyone's opinion on this? I drove by Duffy's today in Clontarf (Dublin) and saw a big sign that said "More animals than ever" and it made my blood boil.

Its an awful thing to say about Clontarf allright. Mulhuddart fair enough, but not Clontarf.

robman60 · 05-07-2011 08:39PM

I've never been to the circus, but it's as if I have an inherent hatred for it and all it stands for. When I think of circus things like "rip-off, animal abuse, and ****ty food" come straight to mind.

Guill · 05-07-2011 08:43PM

You'll make the animals sad, there will be no-one to rub them down!

im invisible · 05-07-2011 08:44PM

"It's a circus Joe, an absolute Circus..."

looksee · 05-07-2011 08:45PM

I have no real problems with domestic animals like horses and dogs in a circus (I think the 'whipped into doing tricks' is a bit over the top) but otherwise I have no time for wild animals being used in circuses and hauled all over the country. I have always refused to go to circuses with animals, though I have been to 'people' circuses, like the chinese ones.

I haven't a great deal of time for zoos either, though I understand that they have saved animals from extinction.

Forest Master · 05-07-2011 08:48PM

Seems there's a protest on Saturday.

http://www.naracampaigns.org/

I'm there.

cml387 · 05-07-2011 08:49PM

Never mind the animals,it's the clowns.They're scary.

Princess Peach · 05-07-2011 08:51PM

The circus makes me so sad.

I don't have issues with zoos as long as they are well run and the animals properly treated and taken care for, I read a book about zoos once to put my mind to rest!

But this is never possible with a travelling circus. Went to one when I was young and made me sad. I often pass by when the circus is in town and see the animals tied up behind the tent

There definitely needs to be better regulation of these!

Went to a Chinese circus once, it was brilliant! Just beautiful acrobats, and jugglers and the likes.

Ally Dick · 05-07-2011 08:53PM

I always loved the circus as a child. I can see the cruelty aspect to it now though. Those poor animals have no life

EverEvolving · 05-07-2011 08:56PM

Forest Master wrote: »

So, what's everyone's opinion on this? I drove by Duffy's today in Clontarf (Dublin) and saw a big sign that said "More animals than ever" and it made my blood boil.

You might want to get that seen to before you save the animals.

I do agree it's pretty terrible the way they are contained, they spend the majority of their lives traveling in cages that are too small for them and only get treated properly when they preform.

TheZohanS · 05-07-2011 08:57PM

Omfgd this circus has to be stopped!!!!!

Lets all boycott it. Hopefully then Duffy's will learn their lesson and have all the animals put down.

When we've closed down Duffy's lets head down the country, I saw COWS and SHEEP on a focking form, omfgd!!!

When will the cruelty end? :mad:

January · 05-07-2011 08:58PM

Nodin wrote: »

Its an awful thing to say about Clontarf allright. Mulhuddart fair enough, but not Clontarf.

Keep your opinions to yourself buddy, Mulhuddart is fine to live in.

Forest Master · 05-07-2011 08:59PM

TheZohan wrote: »

Omfgd this circus has to be stopped!!!!!

Lets all boycott it. Hopefully then Duffy's will learn their lesson and have all the animals put down.

When we've closed down Duffy's lets head down the country, I saw COWS and SHEEP on a focking form, omfgd!!!

When will the cruelty end? :mad:

Awesome sarcasm. Pity you can't actually dictate a real point.

Micky Dolenz · 05-07-2011 09:02PM

I love animals, I eat them every day.

Forest Master · 05-07-2011 09:04PM

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

I love animals, I eat them every day.

Nobody has ever made that gag before, Micky - you're the first one.

easyeason3 · 05-07-2011 09:04PM

I honestly don't see the attraction in going to a circus to see animals do tricks. It's cruel & stupid really.

If you want to see exotic animals take yourself down to Fota wildlife park. I have always enjoyed it & have yet to come away out of it with an uneasy, guilty feeling. Of course you could say that keeping wild animals in enclosed spaces is cruel whether it's a cage or an acre but Fota is definately the lesser of two evils.

And if you want entertainment those little monkey type creatures are always great craic for stealing food.

padd b1975 · 05-07-2011 09:04PM

Forest Master wrote: »

So, what's everyone's opinion on this? I drove by Duffy's today in Clontarf (Dublin) and saw a big sign that said "More animals than ever" and it made my blood boil.

I think the ones that have animals are disgusting. Keeping all of these animals locked up in horrible conditions and whipped into doing tricks is absolutely vile.

I also wonder how it's actually legal to keep these animals? Surely you need a permit? Why is this still allowed? I guarantee if I wanted to keep a Lion in my garden, Fingal Coco would be all over me - no chance. So why are these scumbag inbred clowns (pun intended) allowed to keep dozens of large African animals in cages and transport them around the country in trucks to perform? The govt enforces leash laws yet this sh*t is still acceptable? WTF?

I'd never take my kids to see this.

:mad:

Edit: link here to some protests:
http://www.widget.demotix.com/news/52774/more-animals-ever-protest
http://www.vegaplanet.org/?p=551

Is that Fingal Coco the clown you speak of??

Solnskaya · 05-07-2011 09:04PM

went to duffys circus with the kids last week, and the human performers were very good-clapped away goodo for them. Refused to clap when any animal acts came on-I'd never been to the circus before and didn't give it much thought beforehand, but no, the animal acts are just a bag of sh1te- feckin tigers belong in the jungle, eating things, not prancing around on a barrel. Personally wanted to give the white haired auld bollox cracking the whip a good smack in the head and have him leap about, see how he gets on. Chinese acrobats were very good though.:) All the Lamas and horses looked like they were cakking it, I'd say they get a good flittering to keep them in line. Not good.

Micky Dolenz · 05-07-2011 09:07PM

Forest Master wrote: »

Nobody has ever made that gag before, Micky - you're the first one.

I thought you were busy saving the animals, or do you feel better now that you have a good ould moan on the interweb?

Forest Master · 05-07-2011 09:07PM

Solnskaya wrote: »

went to duffys circus with the kids last week, and the human performers were very good-clapped away goodo for them. Refused to clap when any animal acts came on

Way to put the foot down. You're part of the problem.

BEASTERLY · 05-07-2011 09:08PM

Forest Master wrote: »

So, what's everyone's opinion on this? I drove by Duffy's today in Clontarf (Dublin) and saw a big sign that said "More animals than ever" and it made my blood boil.

I think the ones that have animals are disgusting. Keeping all of these animals locked up in horrible conditions and whipped into doing tricks is absolutely vile.

I also wonder how it's actually legal to keep these animals? Surely you need a permit? Why is this still allowed? I guarantee if I wanted to keep a Lion in my garden, Fingal Coco would be all over me - no chance. So why are these scumbag inbred clowns (pun intended) allowed to keep dozens of large African animals in cages and transport them around the country in trucks to perform? The govt enforces leash laws yet this sh*t is still acceptable? WTF?

I'd never take my kids to see this.

:mad:

Edit: link here to some protests:
http://www.widget.demotix.com/news/52774/more-animals-ever-protest
http://www.vegaplanet.org/?p=551

:rolleyes:

Fookin lefties...

g'em · 05-07-2011 09:08PM

Princess Peach wrote: »

I don't have issues with zoos as long as they are well run and the animals properly treated and taken care for, I read a book about zoos once to put my mind to rest!

The Life of Pi?

Forest Master · 05-07-2011 09:12PM

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

I thought you were busy saving the animals, or do you feel better now that you have a good ould moan on the interweb?

That doesn't even make sense. How did you think I was busy saving animals when I'm clearly posting in this thread? Or is is just a feeble sarcastic point about how I'm "moaning on the interweb" and not actually acting? Another great post. Nobody has ever called someone a keyboard warrior before - you're the first one!
Do you have any more cool catch-phrases? What about "in soviet Russia, sandwich eats you?" Or "won't somebody think of the children" - they're all original too - you should add them to your amazing repertoire of slick replies.

Micky Dolenz · 05-07-2011 09:13PM

Forest Master wrote: »

That doesn't even make sense. How did you think I was busy saving animals when I'm clearly posting in this thread? Or is is just a feeble sarcastic point about how I'm "moaning on the interweb" and not actually acting? Another great post. Nobody has ever called someone a keyboard warrior before - you're the first one!
Do you have any more cool catch-phrases? What about "in soviet Russia, sandwich eats you?" Or "won't somebody think of the children" - they're all original too - you should add them to your amazing repertoire of slick replies.

What about this one?

*Brings out clown doll*

Where did the bad circus performer touch you?

Forest Master · 05-07-2011 09:13PM

It's actually shocking how glib some people are about animals living in cages & being beaten. Unbelievable...

Princess Peach · 05-07-2011 09:13PM

g'em wrote: »

The Life of Pi?

That was the first one I read! But I didn't really trust it cause it is a fiction novel. So I read one called Ethics of the Ark, its by a few authors. Gives a very fair view from all sides!

I love animals!

Mr. Denton · 05-07-2011 09:14PM

Might as well shut them all down if they can't have their lions, and tigers and bears oh my! It's not a circus without animals no matter how famous.

For instance, I went to Oxford Circus once, no animals, just loads of cars and people shopping and taking photos. It was rubbish. :mad:

g'em · 05-07-2011 09:14PM

I'm not a massive fan of circuses, but it really does depend on the living conditions that the animals have in any given company. People have this idea that living wild automatically = better when that's really not necessarily the case.

Solnskaya wrote: »

feckin tigers belong in the jungle, eating things, not prancing around on a barrel.

There's an argument that all that training is providing great exercise and stimulation for the animals though. Sociologically and behaviourally they're benefitting from a reward system (Master and animal) and just because they're fed their food it doesn't make it any less nutritious. If anything the fact they're fed so regularly means that starvation is a pressure they'll never worry about.

Solnskaya wrote:

All the Lamas and horses looked like they were cakking it, I'd say they get a good flittering to keep them in line. Not good.

llamas are naturally incredibly nervy animals, even in natural conditions. Horses can be too, it's very personality and breed dependant. That's not to say that the animals you saw definitely weren't being mistreated, just that we tend to overly anthropomorphise animal behaviours and mistake it for ill-treatment when actually it's part of their temperament.

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