How many girls have ever lied about being on the pill

Kevin Duffy · 04-07-2011 10:40PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

that said , if i was ever with someone who did lie about it and got preggers as a result! they would never see me ever again , couldnt stand anyone that deranged

FYP

OutlawPete · 04-07-2011 10:41PM

There's a movie in my head now cause of this thread, where a guy finds Pills belong to woman and realizes that she hasn't been taken them. For the life of me I can't remember what it is. Anyone?

I do remember the scene however in Educating Rita where Julia Walter's character (Rita, funnily enough) hides the Pill under the floor boards and her husband finds them and goes ballistic. Shot in Dublin so it was, great film.

dark crystal · 04-07-2011 10:46PM

flutterflye wrote: »

Agree.

(Also Abi, I feel your pain in regards to being "too young" for hysterectomy.
I haven't been given a satisfactory explanation as to why yet. :mad: )

If you want to ensure you can't get pregnant, why don't you just request to be sterelised via a tubal ligation?

A hysterectomy is a massive operation usually only performed for very serious reasons. I don't understand why you would want to have your womb removed, just to prevent a pregnancy...

Edit: flutterflye has provided more information below - seems it isn't just a contraceptive choice for you, which is understandable.

flutterflye · 04-07-2011 10:46PM

The following is all completely off topic btw!

Abi wrote: »

From my research it would seem that they won't consider you until you're 35 I've another few years to go I suppose, but I'm now looking into some longer term options like Implanon to tide me over. I suppose they'd only allow it if you could genuinely display that the worry is causing acute depression / suicidal thoughts. I don't think my acting skills are up to it though :pac:

I have been attending a gynae for years due to the hell that is my reproductive system!
The problems it causes have a massive effect on my quality of life, physically, emotionally, and mentally.
I was told after a laporoscopy a year or two ago that I can nolonger have kids.
I already have 2 kids, and while I have the usual broodiness from time to time, I had already decided (for certain reasons) that I would never have any more of my own kids anyway, (a decision which I know that I will still agree with for the rest of my life).

I have begged and pleaded, and explained every which way.

But they continue to tell me that girls in their 20's cannot get a hysterectomy unless medically necessary!

EDIT: @ dark crystal - I want a hysterectomy to stop my horrific problems, not as a permanent contraception.
Sorry if unclear.

Morag · 04-07-2011 10:49PM

To be sterelised via a tubal ligation in this country you have to be 40 with no kids, 35 with 2 kids or 35 with 4 kids. There is no way to get it done privately and those are the ages you apply at and it can take 2 years before you are on the operating table.

In the Uk you can have it done at 21 even if you have no kids.

ascuteasabutton · 04-07-2011 10:51PM

Interesting thread....
I have never personally lied about being on the pill...i'm not on it and im just up front about it,when I met my now boyfriend it did take him a long time to trust that I was telling the truth when I told him we didnt need condoms either as there was zero risk of me getting pregnant. Its only now 2 years later that he realises I wasnt trying to trap him lol

booboo88 · 04-07-2011 10:53PM

flutterflye wrote: »

The following is all completely off topic btw!

I have been attending a gynae for years due to the hell that is my reproductive system!
The problems it causes have a massive effect on my quality of life, physically, emotionally, and mentally.
I was told after a laporoscopy a year or two ago that I can nolonger have kids.
I already have 2 kids, and while I have the usual broodiness from time to time, I had already decided (for certain reasons) that I would never have any more of my own kids anyway, (a decision which I know that I will still agree with for the rest of my life).

I have begged and pleaded, and explained every which way.

But they continue to tell me that girls in their 20's cannot get a hysterectomy unless medically necessary!

EDIT: @ dark crystal - I want a hysterectomy to stop my horrific problems, not as a permanent contraception.
Sorry if unclear.

dont mean to pry, but by the sounds of your post, it does seem medically necessary?

Morag · 04-07-2011 10:55PM

flutterflye if I were you I'd be looking for a second and third opinion.

flutterflye · 04-07-2011 10:56PM

booboo88 wrote: »

dont mean to pry, but by the sounds of your post, it does seem medically necessary?

Lol!

Well, I think so!
Anyone who knows me, or who I have discussed this with thinks so.
But unfortunately the doctors do not think so!
They stock me up on painkillers and say they'll see me in 3 months!

Edit again! (Don't want to fill up thread with posts about myself!)

@Sparrow. Yup, can't find anyone in Ireland to help. They want to try a few different things, so I'm giving these a shot before seeking help overseas.

I don't mind talking about any of this, but I do feel uncomfortable with derailing the thread with all my issues.

ascuteasabutton · 04-07-2011 10:58PM

flutterflye wrote: »

The following is all completely off topic btw!

I have been attending a gynae for years due to the hell that is my reproductive system!
The problems it causes have a massive effect on my quality of life, physically, emotionally, and mentally.
I was told after a laporoscopy a year or two ago that I can nolonger have kids.
I already have 2 kids, and while I have the usual broodiness from time to time, I had already decided (for certain reasons) that I would never have any more of my own kids anyway, (a decision which I know that I will still agree with for the rest of my life).

I have begged and pleaded, and explained every which way.

But they continue to tell me that girls in their 20's cannot get a hysterectomy unless medically necessary!

EDIT: @ dark crystal - I want a hysterectomy to stop my horrific problems, not as a permanent contraception.
Sorry if unclear.

By the sounds of it you have severe Endometrosis which I also suffer from, I was offered a hysterectomy last year as I was very bad,I had also had cancerous cells removed from my cervix ,i'm 28 btw with no children and no chance of ever having them now ! No questions asked I could have had it the following week but sense prevailed and I decided to fight on further I have managed to gain control of my life again though alot of hard work and determination..keep the chin up it will get better x

Kevin Duffy · 04-07-2011 11:00PM

Who saw an AH thread going this way? Be honest now.

ellasommer · 04-07-2011 11:00PM

Personally I cant see why anyone would lie about this, wud u really be that selfish to raise a child in a broken home by trapping someone to get pregnant, beats me ...:eek:

Abi · 04-07-2011 11:01PM

dark crystal wrote: »

If you want to ensure you can't get pregnant, why don't you just request to be sterelised via a tubal ligation?

A hysterectomy is a massive operation usually only performed for very serious reasons. I don't understand why you would want to have your womb removed, just to prevent a pregnancy...

In my case DC, I don't know if that would be possible either? reason being is that it's thought of as a permenant method of contraception, and back dated views on the whole thing due to catholic bullshit Irish rules might hinder it. Well its my understanding of it anyway =/

flutterflye wrote: »

I have been attending a gynae for years due to the hell that is my reproductive system!
The problems it causes have a massive effect on my quality of life, physically, emotionally, and mentally.
I was told after a laporoscopy a year or two ago that I can nolonger have kids.
I already have 2 kids, and while I have the usual broodiness from time to time, I had already decided (for certain reasons) that I would never have any more of my own kids anyway, (a decision which I know that I will still agree with for the rest of my life).

I have begged and pleaded, and explained every which way.

But they continue to tell me that girls in their 20's cannot get a hysterectomy unless medically necessary!

Sorry to hear that, especially seeing as you still go through broody patches FB. Thats pretty unfair if you ask me

stovelid · 04-07-2011 11:09PM

deisedave wrote: »

Well its true the fun of sex is the intimacy and the feel, if all your going to feel is latex then why bother?

It's about shooting your load as quickly as possibly.

Stop painting yourself as a sensitive lover in order to harvest PMs from gullible mots.

Wolfe Tone · 04-07-2011 11:11PM

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

Who saw an AH thread going this way? Be honest now.

stovelid wrote: »

It's about shooting your load as quickly as possibly.

Stop painting yourself as a sensitive lover in order to harvest PMs from gullible mots.

Stovelid to the rescue!

dark crystal · 04-07-2011 11:16PM

Abi wrote: »

In my case DC, I don't know if that would be possible either? reason being is that it's thought of as a permenant method of contraception, and back dated views on the whole thing due to catholic bullshit Irish rules might hinder it. Well its my understanding of it anyway =/

Seems you're not wrong: http://www.independent.ie/health/alternative-health/parenting-a-childfree-life-doesnrsquot-have-to-be-permanent-2812521.html

I can't believe women have to jump through so many hoops for this procedure, when men can just pop in to Marie Stopes and have the snip, no bothers!

stovelid · 04-07-2011 11:18PM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Stovelid to the rescue!

Shit I just answered to that one and didn't read on...

Abi · 04-07-2011 11:44PM

dark crystal wrote: »

Seems you're not wrong: http://www.independent.ie/health/alternative-health/parenting-a-childfree-life-doesnrsquot-have-to-be-permanent-2812521.html

I can't believe women have to jump through so many hoops for this procedure, when men can just pop in to Marie Stopes and have the snip, no bothers!

Tell me about it, fair play to you for looking it up. I do have a reason behind my determination to sort this, and it wasn't pleasant or anything I want experience again.

stovelid · 04-07-2011 11:47PM

dark crystal wrote: »

I can't believe women have to jump through so many hoops for this procedure, when men can just pop in to Marie Stopes and have the snip, no bothers!

Maybe because the woman you're with can walk out tomorrow with your kids, set up with another man and leave you scrabbling for access based on personal whim so maybe you might want another kid somewhere down the line?

flutterflye · 04-07-2011 11:55PM

ascuteasabutton wrote: »

By the sounds of it you have severe Endometrosis which I also suffer from, I was offered a hysterectomy last year as I was very bad,I had also had cancerous cells removed from my cervix ,i'm 28 btw with no children and no chance of ever having them now ! No questions asked I could have had it the following week but sense prevailed and I decided to fight on further I have managed to gain control of my life again though alot of hard work and determination..keep the chin up it will get better x

Absolute last post on this matter I promise!
No, I don't have endo.
Had the laporoscopy as I, and all the doctors and gynaes suspected this.
Turned out to be something else.
But yes, the symptoms are very similar to endo alright.

Thanks for kind words ascuteasabutton (I didn't cop your name until I had to type it just there! I just saw a jumble of letters!), and to everyone else who posted

Now.....
So where are we?
Oh yeah- Those wimmin, they be nasty sperm stealing bitches. :rolleyes:

Abi · 05-07-2011 12:01AM

stovelid wrote: »

Maybe because the woman you're with can walk out tomorrow with your kids, set up with another man and leave you scrabbling for access based on personal whim so maybe you might want another kid somewhere down the line?

Or not? I think it's important that you have the opportunity to choose for yourself.

stovelid · 05-07-2011 12:07AM

Abi wrote: »

Or not? I think it's important that you have the opportunity to choose for yourself.

Not sure what you mean, Abi?

I'm getting the op unless I want to. Nor would I expect anybody else to.

I'll use condoms and if they ever invent a male chemical contraceptive, I'll take it no bother.

krudler · 05-07-2011 12:13AM

stovelid wrote: »

Not sure what you mean, Abi?

I'm getting the op unless I want to. Nor would I expect anybody else to.

I'll use condoms and if they ever invent a male chemical contraceptive, I'll take it no bother.

Brewers Droop, 100% effective and available readily over the counter

The Princess Bride · 05-07-2011 12:13AM

Both female and male sterilisation should only be considered as permanent options,and therefore not taken lightly- of course the choice should be there for either- we are all adults after all?
Scary to think some of you are still having unsafe sex during ONS's or early in relationships, no accounting for sensibility,I guess.

dark crystal · 05-07-2011 12:19AM

stovelid wrote: »

Maybe because the woman you're with can walk out tomorrow with your kids, set up with another man and leave you scrabbling for access based on personal whim so maybe you might want another kid somewhere down the line?

As far as I'm aware, a vasectomy is reversible, so if a man does decide somewhere down the line he wants more kids, he has that option.

By the way, I'm not trying to make this into a male vs female thing at all - I do believe men tend to get the sh*tty end of the stick where it comes to access to and custody of their children in this country, no arguments.

I was simply making the point that if a person wishes to be sterelised, for whatever reasons, it seems somewhat unfair that men are offered that choice much more easily than women in such cases.

stovelid · 05-07-2011 12:24AM

dark crystal wrote: »

As far as I'm aware, a vasectomy is reversible, so if a man does decide somewhere down the line he wants more kids, he has that option..

I'm not really one for major whim surgery.

flutterflye · 05-07-2011 12:25AM

krudler wrote: »

Brewers Droop, 100% effective and available readily over the counter

Oh god, I feel very silly and blond!
I was here thinking "Wow, they have found a contraceptive that is 100% effective!"

And then I googled this amazing new 'contraceptive'..........

dr.bollocko · 05-07-2011 12:32AM

...
Oops.
/whistles innocently.

stovelid · 05-07-2011 12:34AM

dr.bollocko wrote: »

...
Oops.
/whistles innocently.

Missed a golden oppo to close the thread with a post simply saying SNIP.

Abi · 05-07-2011 12:50AM

stovelid wrote: »

Not sure what you mean, Abi?

I'm getting the op unless I want to. Nor would I expect anybody else to.

I'll use condoms and if they ever invent a male chemical contraceptive, I'll take it no bother.

Sorry, I suppose I wasn't very clear- though I do understand your angle. If a relationship divides for one reason or another, I think both should 'exes' should be able to decide whether they would like to have children / more children. I think your take on it would be that you would rather be able to have children in the future, whereas I'd be at the other end of the spectrum. I just don't like the idea of being sprung with some news when I've just reached a place in my life where I'm enjoying my freedom / independence, only to have it replaced with nappies and bottles and sleepless nights. I mind my 3 month old niece every now and again, and while I can handle it, it has to be said it isn't easy. I think that if any girl stupid enough to think that a baby is the way forward to keeping a guy / getting social welfare or whatever other nasty tricks - shes in for a fright. she'd think again if she was given a few months trial with a new born.

I know I don't need to tell you, but you can see where I'm going with it being something not to take lightly. At the same time I can see your point of view Stove, though post ONS /relationship / marraige / that have resulted in kids, there are people that would choose not to carry on having children, and for the reason that you cited - a nasty ending.

It is a personal choice though, I accept that.

How many girls have ever lied about being on the pill

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