Criminal Action Force - only in Ireland?

gurramok · 25-09-2010 11:00PM #1

After filling up my car with petrol at the garage, I went into pay and as I glanced at the newspaper stand a photo of masked gunmen caught my eye.

On reading the story from the Star(yeh i know and Herald had it also), they had quite a publicity shot for a so called CAF. Like wtf, what kind of message do these thugs send to us? That they fear no-one of course.

This reminds me of the heyday of The General where he setup a similar organisation with a criminal title in its name to counter act anti-drugs marches on crims homes.

Thing is, i've never heard of crims in the UK styling themselves as a paramilitary group, so is it a problem uniquely Irish?

laugh · 25-09-2010 11:15PM

Mafia?

Medellin drug cartel?

about blank · 25-09-2010 11:17PM

http://www.swalnews.org/images/Caf-logo-2009.jpg

CAF

Confederation African Football

gurramok · 25-09-2010 11:17PM

laugh wrote: »

Mafia?

Medellin drug cartel?

Yeh, looking that way. Speaking up for criminal rights. Bloody hell, only in Ireland can this happen.:mad:

RMD · 25-09-2010 11:20PM

AFAIK they're a criminal group out to break the IRA protection rackets on the drug trade.

Also OP, thing is how much do you know about the British crime underworld? This is some typical tabloid bull****, it's not as if the CAF is some serious threat to civil safety. It's nothing more than a fancy name for a new group of criminals who want to take down the IRA protection racket.

It has nothing to do with criminal rights. The General's organization was based against CPAD (Concerned parents against drugs) picketing outside non-drug dealing criminals houses. Ordinary decent criminals as he called them, it wasn't for criminal "rights", it was just to piss off CPAD.

gurramok · 25-09-2010 11:25PM

RMD wrote: »

AFAIK they're a criminal group out to break the IRA protection rackets on the drug trade.

Also OP, thing is how much do you know about the British crime underworld? This is some typical tabloid bull****, it's not as if the CAF is some serious threat to civil safety. It's nothing more than a fancy name for a new group of criminals who want to take down the IRA protection racket.

Well, from watching British media from which we have extensive access, i've never seen such a group been formed to stick up for criminal rights!

Maybe the tabloids are exploiting it to sell papers but on past experience of such crim orgs getting publicity(the General's antics), it looks a bit concerning!

o1s1n · 25-09-2010 11:28PM

http://cdn.newsone.com/files/2008/10/cobra-commander-2008.jpg

RMD · 25-09-2010 11:28PM

gurramok wrote: »

Well, from watching British media from which we have extensive access, i've never seen such a group been formed to stick up for criminal rights!

Maybe the tabloids are exploiting it to sell papers but on past experience of such crim orgs getting publicity(the General's antics), it looks a bit concerning!

We do get a lot of British media here, but very few of them actually focus on the British underworld. Of course you're not going to hear about, can you even name 3 major British underworld criminals of the last decade? Not trying to make you look stupid, just showing an example.

And yes the tabloids are definitely exploiting it, this is nothing more than a bunch of big-headed "gangsters" creating an "action force" to combat other criminals. Basically, it's another gang forming who want to make themselves look important by giving themselves some poxy name. There's a lot more dangerous criminals out there than these lads. And once again as I said, this has absolutely nothing to do with criminal rights.

gurramok · 25-09-2010 11:33PM

RMD wrote: »

We do get a lot of British media here, but very few of them actually focus on the British underworld. Of course you're not going to hear about, can you even name 3 major British underworld criminals of the last decade? Not trying to make you look stupid, just showing an example.

And yes the tabloids are definitely exploiting it, this is nothing more than a bunch of big-headed "gangsters" creating an "action force" to combat other criminals. Basically, it's another gang forming who want to make themselves look important by giving themselves some poxy name. There's a lot more dangerous criminals out there than these lads. And once again as I said, this has absolutely nothing to do with criminal rights.

True, maybe just a publicity stunt for these lowlifes. Says alot of the Irish tabloids giving them the oxygen of publicity, that makes the tabloids culpable to crime in my view.

Absurdum · 25-09-2010 11:35PM

gurramok wrote: »

After filling up my car with petrol at the garage, I went into pay and as I glanced at the newspaper stand a photo of masked gunmen caught my eye.

On reading the story from the Star(yeh i know and Herald had it also), they had quite a publicity shot for a so called CAF. Like wtf, what kind of message do these thugs send to us? That they fear no-one of course.

This reminds me of the heyday of The General where he setup a similar organisation with a criminal title in its name to counter act anti-drugs marches on crims homes.

Thing is, i've never heard of crims in the UK styling themselves as a paramilitary group, so is it a problem uniquely Irish?

well that should keep Paul Williams and his ilk in business for another year or two

RMD · 25-09-2010 11:39PM

gurramok wrote: »

True, maybe just a publicity stunt for these lowlifes. Says alot of the Irish tabloids giving them the oxygen of publicity, that makes the tabloids culpable to crime in my view.

Tabloids are aweful bastards for this crap. Bunch of fear-mongering assholes trying to make situations seem worse than they are, stretching stories and inventing criminals to sell copies of their tabloid. Wouldn't trust any of the crap they say.

Terry · 25-09-2010 11:44PM

I agree with this group.
I want to conduct my criminal activities without being hassled by everyone.

To hell with the fact that they have put themselves in the spotlight, thus giving the Gardaí legitimate targets. Fight the power.

KevinVonSpiel · 26-09-2010 12:00AM

gurramok wrote: »

laugh wrote: »

Mafia?

Medellin drug cartel?

Yeh, looking that way. Speaking up for criminal rights. Bloody hell, only in Ireland can this happen.:mad:

But... but... but... oh, forget it.

gurramok · 26-09-2010 12:15AM

KevinVonSpiel wrote: »

But... but... but... oh, forget it.

But here! Wish they would of kept their traps shut! It goes to show how the authorities have no leash on the beast!.

keitho h · 29-06-2011 10:06PM

go caf for sure

Duckworth_Luas · 29-06-2011 10:32PM

keitho h wrote: »

go caf for sure

decaf please!

Dyr · 29-06-2011 10:35PM

RMD wrote: »

AFAIK they're a criminal group out to break the IRA protection rackets on the drug trade.
.

Now which IRA drug protection racket would that be

Solnskaya · 29-06-2011 10:43PM

the one thats about 20 years old probably. And the real crims wont be in them pics, just the mugs.

keitho h · 29-06-2011 10:55PM

Bambi wrote: »

Now which IRA drug protection racket would that be

hard to work out theres alot

keitho h · 29-06-2011 11:01PM

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

decaf please!

there out to stop Crim gangs from paying Money

Son Of A Vidic · 29-06-2011 11:06PM

RMD wrote: »

It's nothing more than a fancy name for a new group of criminals who want to take down the IRA protection racket.

Well done for managing to squeeze the IRA into the thread and blaming them. While you're at it, ya might as well blame them also for the crappy weather this summer.

keitho h · 29-06-2011 11:11PM

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Well done for managing to squeeze the IRA into the thread and blaming them. While you're at it, ya might as well blame them also for the crappy weather this summer.

:eek: its all over the papers weeks about it you must have been asleep

Del2005 · 29-06-2011 11:19PM

RMD wrote: »

It has nothing to do with criminal rights. The General's organization was based against CPAD (Concerned parents against drugs) picketing outside non-drug dealing criminals houses. Ordinary decent criminals as he called them, it wasn't for criminal "rights", it was just to piss off CPAD.

The CPAD were organised by the IRA. Who where trying to get a commission from ODC's.

keitho h · 30-06-2011 12:27PM

Del2005 wrote: »

The CPAD were organised by the IRA. Who where trying to get a commission from ODC's.

that is not right the CPAD was a name put on a group of people that where all ready set up the IRA just put the CPAD name on them and to try to use them for there own ends Martin Cahill gave an inter view to a news paper and said thay where after the GOLD

Son Of A Vidic · 30-06-2011 12:40PM

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Well done for managing to squeeze the IRA into the thread and blaming them. While you're at it, ya might as well blame them also for the crappy weather this summer.

keitho h wrote: »

:eek: its all over the papers weeks about it you must have been asleep

About what?.......The IRA being responsible for the bad summer?

Morlar · 30-06-2011 12:41PM

keitho h wrote: »

that is not right the CPAD was a name put on a group of people that where all ready set up the IRA just put the CPAD name on them and to try to use them for there own ends Martin Cahill gave an inter view to a news paper and said thay where after the GOLD

Meanwhile on earth . . CPAD were Concerned Parents against Drugs.

Local republicans did play a role in this community based organisation.

Their goal was to remove known drug dealers (forcefully if required) from deprived areas (with spiralling drug abuse and crime levels).

It was not a republican organisation, if anything it was borderline viginaltism. Aside from an overlap of republicans who were also involved in CPAD it was non affiliated and also very widely popular in more deprived areas at that time.

biko · 30-06-2011 01:03PM

Catholic Action Force is a nickname for INLA

keitho h · 30-06-2011 01:34PM

Morlar wrote: »

Meanwhile on earth . . CPAD were Concerned Parents against Drugs.

Local republicans did play a role in this community based organisation.

Their goal was to remove known drug dealers (forcefully if required) from deprived areas (with spiralling drug abuse and crime levels).

It was not a republican organisation, if anything it was borderline viginaltism. Aside from an overlap of republicans who were also involved in CPAD it was non affiliated and also very widely popular in more deprived areas at that time.

not republican organisation at first then used the name of the IRA LATER ON if and when required but they where not as bad as republican groups in Dublin going about today it must be said who work hand in glove with the gangs who thay say thay are acting again

Morlar · 30-06-2011 01:37PM

keitho h wrote: »

...it must be said who work hand in glove with the gangs ....

It's easy to say things, proving them is another matter.

Amhran Nua · 30-06-2011 01:39PM

The only time I should be seeing or hearing about notorious criminals or criminal gangs should be in headlines like "Famous criminal sent to prison for five consecutive life sentences". The tabloids should be fined for giving these circus clowns publicity.

keitho h · 30-06-2011 01:41PM

Morlar wrote: »

It's easy to say things, proving them is another matter.

well is it not so that is why people set up the CAF ?

Criminal Action Force - only in Ireland?

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