Criminal Action Force - only in Ireland?

gurramok

After filling up my car with petrol at the garage, I went into pay and as I glanced at the newspaper stand a photo of masked gunmen caught my eye.

On reading the story from the Star(yeh i know and Herald had it also), they had quite a publicity shot for a so called CAF. Like wtf, what kind of message do these thugs send to us? That they fear no-one of course.

This reminds me of the heyday of The General where he setup a similar organisation with a criminal title in its name to counter act anti-drugs marches on crims homes.

Thing is, i've never heard of crims in the UK styling themselves as a paramilitary group, so is it a problem uniquely Irish?

laugh

Mafia?

Medellin drug cartel?

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http://www.swalnews.org/images/Caf-logo-2009.jpg

CAF

Confederation African Football

gurramok

laugh wrote: »

Mafia?

Medellin drug cartel?

Yeh, looking that way. Speaking up for criminal rights. Bloody hell, only in Ireland can this happen.:mad:

RMD

AFAIK they're a criminal group out to break the IRA protection rackets on the drug trade.

Also OP, thing is how much do you know about the British crime underworld? This is some typical tabloid bull****, it's not as if the CAF is some serious threat to civil safety. It's nothing more than a fancy name for a new group of criminals who want to take down the IRA protection racket.

It has nothing to do with criminal rights. The General's organization was based against CPAD (Concerned parents against drugs) picketing outside non-drug dealing criminals houses. Ordinary decent criminals as he called them, it wasn't for criminal "rights", it was just to piss off CPAD.

gurramok

RMD wrote: »

AFAIK they're a criminal group out to break the IRA protection rackets on the drug trade.

Also OP, thing is how much do you know about the British crime underworld? This is some typical tabloid bull****, it's not as if the CAF is some serious threat to civil safety. It's nothing more than a fancy name for a new group of criminals who want to take down the IRA protection racket.

Well, from watching British media from which we have extensive access, i've never seen such a group been formed to stick up for criminal rights!

Maybe the tabloids are exploiting it to sell papers but on past experience of such crim orgs getting publicity(the General's antics), it looks a bit concerning!

o1s1n

http://cdn.newsone.com/files/2008/10/cobra-commander-2008.jpg

RMD

gurramok wrote: »

Well, from watching British media from which we have extensive access, i've never seen such a group been formed to stick up for criminal rights!

Maybe the tabloids are exploiting it to sell papers but on past experience of such crim orgs getting publicity(the General's antics), it looks a bit concerning!

We do get a lot of British media here, but very few of them actually focus on the British underworld. Of course you're not going to hear about, can you even name 3 major British underworld criminals of the last decade? Not trying to make you look stupid, just showing an example.

And yes the tabloids are definitely exploiting it, this is nothing more than a bunch of big-headed "gangsters" creating an "action force" to combat other criminals. Basically, it's another gang forming who want to make themselves look important by giving themselves some poxy name. There's a lot more dangerous criminals out there than these lads. And once again as I said, this has absolutely nothing to do with criminal rights.

gurramok

RMD wrote: »

We do get a lot of British media here, but very few of them actually focus on the British underworld. Of course you're not going to hear about, can you even name 3 major British underworld criminals of the last decade? Not trying to make you look stupid, just showing an example.

And yes the tabloids are definitely exploiting it, this is nothing more than a bunch of big-headed "gangsters" creating an "action force" to combat other criminals. Basically, it's another gang forming who want to make themselves look important by giving themselves some poxy name. There's a lot more dangerous criminals out there than these lads. And once again as I said, this has absolutely nothing to do with criminal rights.

True, maybe just a publicity stunt for these lowlifes. Says alot of the Irish tabloids giving them the oxygen of publicity, that makes the tabloids culpable to crime in my view.

Absurdum

gurramok wrote: »

After filling up my car with petrol at the garage, I went into pay and as I glanced at the newspaper stand a photo of masked gunmen caught my eye.

On reading the story from the Star(yeh i know and Herald had it also), they had quite a publicity shot for a so called CAF. Like wtf, what kind of message do these thugs send to us? That they fear no-one of course.

This reminds me of the heyday of The General where he setup a similar organisation with a criminal title in its name to counter act anti-drugs marches on crims homes.

Thing is, i've never heard of crims in the UK styling themselves as a paramilitary group, so is it a problem uniquely Irish?

well that should keep Paul Williams and his ilk in business for another year or two

RMD

gurramok wrote: »

True, maybe just a publicity stunt for these lowlifes. Says alot of the Irish tabloids giving them the oxygen of publicity, that makes the tabloids culpable to crime in my view.

Tabloids are aweful bastards for this crap. Bunch of fear-mongering assholes trying to make situations seem worse than they are, stretching stories and inventing criminals to sell copies of their tabloid. Wouldn't trust any of the crap they say.

Terry

I agree with this group.
I want to conduct my criminal activities without being hassled by everyone.

To hell with the fact that they have put themselves in the spotlight, thus giving the Gardaí legitimate targets. Fight the power.

KevinVonSpiel

gurramok wrote: »

laugh wrote: »

Mafia?

Medellin drug cartel?

Yeh, looking that way. Speaking up for criminal rights. Bloody hell, only in Ireland can this happen.:mad:

But... but... but... oh, forget it.

gurramok

KevinVonSpiel wrote: »

But... but... but... oh, forget it.

But here! Wish they would of kept their traps shut! It goes to show how the authorities have no leash on the beast!.

keitho h

go caf for sure

Duckworth_Luas

keitho h wrote: »

go caf for sure

decaf please!

Dyr

RMD wrote: »

AFAIK they're a criminal group out to break the IRA protection rackets on the drug trade.
.

Now which IRA drug protection racket would that be

Solnskaya

the one thats about 20 years old probably. And the real crims wont be in them pics, just the mugs.

keitho h

Bambi wrote: »

Now which IRA drug protection racket would that be

hard to work out theres alot

keitho h

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

decaf please!

there out to stop Crim gangs from paying Money

Son Of A Vidic

RMD wrote: »

It's nothing more than a fancy name for a new group of criminals who want to take down the IRA protection racket.

Well done for managing to squeeze the IRA into the thread and blaming them. While you're at it, ya might as well blame them also for the crappy weather this summer.

keitho h

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Well done for managing to squeeze the IRA into the thread and blaming them. While you're at it, ya might as well blame them also for the crappy weather this summer.

:eek: its all over the papers weeks about it you must have been asleep

Del2005

RMD wrote: »

It has nothing to do with criminal rights. The General's organization was based against CPAD (Concerned parents against drugs) picketing outside non-drug dealing criminals houses. Ordinary decent criminals as he called them, it wasn't for criminal "rights", it was just to piss off CPAD.

The CPAD were organised by the IRA. Who where trying to get a commission from ODC's.

keitho h

Del2005 wrote: »

The CPAD were organised by the IRA. Who where trying to get a commission from ODC's.

that is not right the CPAD was a name put on a group of people that where all ready set up the IRA just put the CPAD name on them and to try to use them for there own ends Martin Cahill gave an inter view to a news paper and said thay where after the GOLD

Son Of A Vidic

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Well done for managing to squeeze the IRA into the thread and blaming them. While you're at it, ya might as well blame them also for the crappy weather this summer.

keitho h wrote: »

:eek: its all over the papers weeks about it you must have been asleep

About what?.......The IRA being responsible for the bad summer?

Morlar

keitho h wrote: »

that is not right the CPAD was a name put on a group of people that where all ready set up the IRA just put the CPAD name on them and to try to use them for there own ends Martin Cahill gave an inter view to a news paper and said thay where after the GOLD

Meanwhile on earth . . CPAD were Concerned Parents against Drugs.

Local republicans did play a role in this community based organisation.

Their goal was to remove known drug dealers (forcefully if required) from deprived areas (with spiralling drug abuse and crime levels).

It was not a republican organisation, if anything it was borderline viginaltism. Aside from an overlap of republicans who were also involved in CPAD it was non affiliated and also very widely popular in more deprived areas at that time.

biko

Catholic Action Force is a nickname for INLA

keitho h

Morlar wrote: »

Meanwhile on earth . . CPAD were Concerned Parents against Drugs.

Local republicans did play a role in this community based organisation.

Their goal was to remove known drug dealers (forcefully if required) from deprived areas (with spiralling drug abuse and crime levels).

It was not a republican organisation, if anything it was borderline viginaltism. Aside from an overlap of republicans who were also involved in CPAD it was non affiliated and also very widely popular in more deprived areas at that time.

not republican organisation at first then used the name of the IRA LATER ON if and when required but they where not as bad as republican groups in Dublin going about today it must be said who work hand in glove with the gangs who thay say thay are acting again

Morlar

keitho h wrote: »

...it must be said who work hand in glove with the gangs ....

It's easy to say things, proving them is another matter.

Amhran Nua

The only time I should be seeing or hearing about notorious criminals or criminal gangs should be in headlines like "Famous criminal sent to prison for five consecutive life sentences". The tabloids should be fined for giving these circus clowns publicity.

keitho h

Morlar wrote: »

It's easy to say things, proving them is another matter.

well is it not so that is why people set up the CAF ?

RichieC

Morlar wrote: »

Meanwhile on earth . . CPAD were Concerned Parents against Drugs.

Local republicans did play a role in this community based organisation.

Their goal was to remove known drug dealers (forcefully if required) from deprived areas (with spiralling drug abuse and crime levels).

It was not a republican organisation, if anything it was borderline viginaltism. Aside from an overlap of republicans who were also involved in CPAD it was non affiliated and also very widely popular in more deprived areas at that time.

keitho h

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

About what?.......The IRA being responsible for the bad summer?

well what IRA would you be on about there ? :rolleyes:

Morlar

RichieC wrote: »

That misspelled word was 'borderline vigilantism'.

Solnskaya

Morlar wrote: »

That misspelled word was 'borderline vigilantism'.

or borderlands virginilisms, nobodys too sure

dsmythy

The_Citizen: Issue 17

The Citizen v the CAF.

keitho h

dsmythy wrote: »

The_Citizen: Issue 17

The Citizen v the CAF.

or CAF V RIRA more like it seems

strobe

RMD wrote: »

AFAIK they're a criminal group out to break the IRA protection rackets on the drug trade.

Fair play so.

keitho h

RMD wrote: »

AFAIK they're a criminal group out to break the IRA protection rackets on the drug trade.

Also OP, thing is how much do you know about the British crime underworld? This is some typical tabloid bull****, it's not as if the CAF is some serious threat to civil safety. It's nothing more than a fancy name for a new group of criminals who want to take down the IRA protection racket.

It has nothing to do with criminal rights. The General's organization was based against CPAD (Concerned parents against drugs) picketing outside non-drug dealing criminals houses. Ordinary decent criminals as he called them, it wasn't for criminal "rights", it was just to piss off CPAD.

Real IRA it said in paper

Mike 1972

gurramok wrote: »

Thing is, i've never heard of crims in the UK styling themselves as a paramilitary group

Quite a few in Northern Ireland

keitho h

in todays star CAF said that thay have shot dead an other man Darren Coganin in Black Horse inn Pub

TheZohanS

keitho h wrote: »

in todays star CAF said that thay have shot dead an other man Darren Coganin in Black Horse inn Pub

There was a pretty active splinter group of CAF called CAFC (Continuity CAF) , thugs the lot of them. They infiltrated boards a while back and managed to get their own forum. Think they're operating under a different name now though.

keitho h

TheZohan wrote: »

There was a pretty active splinter group of CAF called CAFC (Continuity CAF) , thugs the lot of them. They infiltrated boards a while back and managed to get their own forum. Think they're operating under a different name now though.

maybe so but as in todays star it just said CAF

stovelid

gurramok wrote: »

i've never heard of crims in the UK styling themselves as a paramilitary group, so is it a problem uniquely Irish?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Defence_Association

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Volunteer_Force

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalist_Volunteer_Force

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INLA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Army

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_Irish_Republican_Army

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIRA

keitho h

stovelid wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Defence_Association

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Volunteer_Force

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalist_Volunteer_Force

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INLA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Army

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_Irish_Republican_Army

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIRA

not in uk Ireland

deathrider

Aw, when I saw the thread title I thought they were going to be superheroes. Taking action against crime, megalomaniacs, evil forces and such. Armed with eye-lazers, retractable claws, and capes (which automatically gives the ability of flight)... You can imagine my disappointment

keitho h

deathrider wrote: »

Aw, when I saw the thread title I thought they were going to be superheroes. Taking action against crime, megalomaniacs, evil forces and such. Armed with eye-lazers, retractable claws, and capes (which automatically gives the ability of flight)... You can imagine my disappointment

maybe next time

keitho h

todays star paper pic of 3 gunmen from Criminal Action Force

ReReginald

betting their arsenal in that photo are all airsoft guns.
a gathering of wheezing beer-bellied street dealers who've been re-watching rambo.
drugs aside they should be executed for their wannabe scary hard men posing.

keitho h

ReReginald wrote: »

betting their arsenal in that photo are all airsoft guns.
a gathering of wheezing beer-bellied street dealers who've been re-watching rambo.
drugs aside they should be executed for their wannabe scary hard men posing.

all gangs have some arsenal a number of RPG where found last year along with a number of AK47 the Garda said that thay where a gangs from south Dublin so gangs do have arsenal that was in todays star Criminal
Action Force photo

Micky O

criminal action force we shot real ira man in Wicklow in today's star paper