Why do we claim some people as irish..

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 26-06-2011 10:32PM

Daniel Day Lewis chose to live here and take Irish citizenship, so he is Irish in a way.

OPENROAD · 26-06-2011 10:32PM

willow tree wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm0GecqUr_o

always makes me smile, claiming others isnt just an irish thing

We do seem to do it more though

Kevin Duffy · 26-06-2011 10:34PM

man.about.town wrote: »

liam neeson

Born in Ballymena, hey. OP said people not born here, didn't he?

Yahew · 26-06-2011 10:36PM

OPENROAD wrote: »

We do seem to do it more though

Do we?

We have, so far, one person who lives here and has an Irish passport - Daniel Day Lewis, and who is legally Irish.

The OP didnt talk about English people of Irish descent, many of whom claim to be Irish anyway.In fact we tend to dismiss that as plastic paddy. I have never seen Dermot O'Learly called Irish in an Irish newspaper. He does, we don't.

His topic was people living here who we claim.

Dun · 26-06-2011 10:36PM

Mr. Denton wrote: »

Day Lewis has Irish citizenship. That's good enough for me. Do McIlroy and O'Bama?

McIlroy has it if he wants it, and is entitled to it as much as anybody else on the island.

theboss80 · 26-06-2011 10:37PM

Mr. Denton wrote: »

We work out who Englands best footballers are and then we steal them for our team.

Guys like Kevin Kilbane, Caleb Folan and Paul Green for example.

Does not compute

Mr. Denton · 26-06-2011 10:38PM

Dun wrote: »

McIlroy has it if he wants it, and is entitled to it as much as anybody else on the island.

As such so is Ian Paisley, but I doubt he's availed of it. I'm wondering has McIlroy.

ejmaztec · 26-06-2011 10:38PM

Yahew wrote: »

Do we?

We have, so far, one person who lives here and has an Irish passport - Daniel Day Lewis, and who is legally Irish.

The OP didnt talk about English people of Irish descent, many of whom claim to be Irish anyway.In fact we tend to dismiss that as plastic paddy. I have never seen Dermot O'Learly called Irish in an Irish newspaper. He does, we don't.

His topic was people living here who we claim.

If he's eligible for Irish citizenship, and he says that he's Irish, then he's Irish.

yesno1234 · 26-06-2011 10:40PM

Ya think we're bad apparently some fella from Scotland called Murray is going to be the first English tennis player to win Wimbledon in years.

OPENROAD · 26-06-2011 10:41PM

yesno1234 wrote: »

Ya think we're bad apparently some fella from Scotland called Murray is going to beat the first English tennis player to win Wimbledon in years.

Really haven't heard that

Mr. Denton · 26-06-2011 10:41PM

yesno1234 wrote: »

Ya think we're bad apparently some fella from Scotland called Murray is going to beat the first English tennis player to win Wimbledon in years.

So they've finally let him play in the womens tournament?

Yahew · 26-06-2011 10:43PM

OPENROAD wrote: »

Really haven't heard that

The English continutally call Murray English. Or British - which is admittedly true, but not Scottish.

now, where is the evidence for us claiming people who live here as Irish. This is a fact free thread so far.

Yahew · 26-06-2011 10:45PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

If he's eligible for Irish citizenship, and he says that he's Irish, then he's Irish.

I dont really care, however the fact is I have never seen Dermot who considers himself Irish, called Irish in Ireland.

But thats neither here nor there. I am still trying to rack my brains for people who live here and who are not Irish, but are considered Irish.

OPENROAD · 26-06-2011 10:46PM

Yahew wrote: »

The English continutally call Murray English. Or British - which is admittedly true, but not Scottish.

now, where is the evidence for us claiming people who live here as Irish. This is a fact free thread so far.

They don't call him English, I have never heard him called English,they may refer to him as British and as you say that is true.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 26-06-2011 10:47PM

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

Born in Ballymena, hey. OP said people not born here, didn't he?

In before somebody claims that means hes British. Which it doesn't, at all.

OPENROAD · 26-06-2011 10:47PM

Yahew wrote: »

I dont really care, however the fact is I have never seen Dermot who considers himself Irish, called Irish in Ireland.

But thats neither here nor there. I am still trying to rack my brains for people who live here and who are not Irish, but are considered Irish.

Well I have certainly heard interviews with well known people where we play on the Irish connection. Fair enough not the same as claiming the person is Irish.:)

yesno1234 · 26-06-2011 10:47PM

OPENROAD wrote: »

They don't call him English, I have never heard him called English,they may refer to him as British and as you say that is true.

Media constantly call's him English when he's winning. Then he crashes out (inevitably in every tournament) and he's Scottish again.

OPENROAD · 26-06-2011 10:51PM

yesno1234 wrote: »

Media constantly call's him English when he's winning. Then he crashes out (inevitably in every tournament) and he's Scottish again.

They don't, they never have, as said they may refer to him as British from time to time, but even when he is winning he is referred to as "Scotland's Andy Murray" only this evening on LBC in the sports news he was referred to as Scotish, if you listen to Five Lives coverage during the week it is Scotish/British.

Yahew · 26-06-2011 10:52PM

So who - not born here (in the Republic) do we call Irish?

pipelaser · 26-06-2011 10:54PM

Ill wade in with Eamon De Valera

milehip1 · 26-06-2011 10:56PM

Che Guevara (Lynch)

ejmaztec · 26-06-2011 10:56PM

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

In before somebody claims that means hes British. Which it doesn't, at all.

The President will be dragged into this next.

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 26-06-2011 10:58PM

Yahew wrote: »

So who - not born here (in the Republic) do we call Irish?

Saoire ronin *born in new york
Ronan o gara *california
daniel de lewis *london

Think we where going to claim rory mcilroy with amount of recent news coverage

Yahew · 26-06-2011 11:05PM

Albert Loud History wrote: »

Saoire ronin *born in new york
Ronan o gara *california
daniel de lewis *london

Think we where going to claim rory mcilroy with amount of recent news coverage

In general people who grow up in a place are considered to belong to that place. Saorise, and Ronan are of Irish descent and grew up here.

Daniel has a passport so he is Irish, technically.

Is that all we got?

OPENROAD · 26-06-2011 11:07PM

Yahew wrote: »

In general people who grow up in a place are considered to belong to that place. Saorise, and Ronan are of Irish descent and grew up here.

Daniel has a passport so he is Irish, technically.

Is that all we got?

Most of the Irish football team in the 90's?

Yahew · 26-06-2011 11:11PM

OPENROAD wrote: »

Most of the Irish football team in the 90's?

Not born, nor grew up here.

The op claims that we claim anybody who lives here and is a bit famous is considered Irish. The only person I could think of is Daniel Day Lewis - who went and got himself a passport.

In any case its been.... interesting. But evidence free, so I think I will unsubscribe.

OPENROAD · 26-06-2011 11:12PM

Yahew wrote: »

Not born, nor grew up here.

The op claims that we claim anybody who lives here and is a bit famous is considered Irish. The only person I could think of is Daniel Day Lewis - who went and got himself a passport.

In any case its been.... interesting. But evidence free, so I think I will unsubscribe.

Lisa Stansfield

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 26-06-2011 11:17PM

pipelaser wrote: »

Ill wade in with Eamon De Valera

Lived in Ireland from the age of two. It really annoys me when people call him American as he spent all of his formative years in Co Limerick. I moved from New York to Mayo when I was two and I can't even remember living in America, I don't regard myself as anything other than Irish.

OPENROAD · 26-06-2011 11:19PM

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

I moved from New York to Mayo when I was two and I can't even remember living in America, I don't regard myself as anything other than Irish.

Reverse the scenario though

Duckworth_Luas · 26-06-2011 11:22PM

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

Lived in Ireland from the age of two. It really annoys me when people call him American as he spent all of his formative years in Co Limerick. I moved from New York to Mayo when I was two and I can't even remember living in America, I don't regard myself as anything other than Irish.

I hate when Yanks come here and complain that the scenery is not as scenic as they expected.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW2ZNF9MCXE

Why do we claim some people as irish..

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