Why do we claim some people as irish..

7sr2z3fely84g5

If someone is born abroad but lives here and stars in a hollywood movie or in a famous band,we claim them to be irish

Chuck Stone

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YFlyer

Who?

ahyeahok

cos they live here maybe....

Spacedog

ok, I'll bite, example? who are we talking about here.

patmac

That's probably because they are. Could be a bit more specific op.

Turtyturd

We is such an overused word.

galwayrush

More than likely, they are the ones claiming to be Iirsh.

MickShamrock

Such as?

Kevin Duffy

Do we? Such as?

Yahew

Apparently we dont.

Mr. Denton

We work out who Englands best footballers are and then we steal them for our team.

Guys like Kevin Kilbane, Caleb Folan and Paul Green for example.

hondasam

who did we claim ?

Kevin Duffy

Mr. Denton wrote: »

We work out who Englands best footballers are and then we steal them for our team.

Guys like Kevin Kilbane, Caleb Folan and Paul Green for example.

Just think, we stopped England from winning the last 3 World Cups and Euro Champs by taking those lads from them.

Fratton Fred

Mr. Denton wrote: »

We work out who Englands best footballers are and then we steal them for our team.

Guys like Kevin Kilbane, Caleb Folan and Paul Green for example.

Errr, best footballers??

Sweatynutsack

Barrack??

Mr. Denton

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

Just think, we stopped England from winning the last 3 World Cups and Euro Champs by taking those lads from them.

Too true. I think Green alone could have prevented that 4-1 mauling against the Germans.

Duckworth_Luas

Does somebody stick an Irish flag into them and say, "I claim this foreign tax-dodger for Ireland"?

OPENROAD

Mr. Denton wrote: »

We work out who Englands best footballers are and then we steal them for our team.

Guys like Kevin Kilbane, Caleb Folan and Paul Green for example.

That's why Ireland always qualify for tournaments and play really attractive football, oh wait :pac:

Mr. Denton

OPENROAD wrote: »

That's why Ireland always qualify for tournaments and play really attractive football, oh wait :pac:

What are you on about? I heard Xavi and Messi have dvd's of all the Ireland games sent to them so they can watch football as it was meant to be played.

Duckworth_Luas

Mr. Denton wrote: »

What are you on about? I heard Xavi and Messi have dvd's of all the Ireland games sent to them so they can watch football as it was meant to be played.

Didn't realise they are GAA fans!

El Horseboxo

I got drafted to the nba last Thursday. MY parents are Irish. Expect newspaper reports if I do well.

Mr. Denton

El Horseboxo wrote: »

I got drafted to the nba last Thursday.

You can avoid that by emigrating to Canada.

Bottle_of_Smoke

Think the op means people like Rory McIlroy/Obama etc. I even know someone who always comments about how Wayne Rooney should be playing for Ireland

Football's one thing - it is logical because we get players like John Aldridge to improve the Irish team.

Obama etc.. - well I guess its sort of a self compliment. The thinking behind it being Obama is awesome. Obama has Irish genes. *I* have Irish genes too. Therefore I am awesome like Obama.

Awful_Bliss

I think the OP also means people like Daniel Day-Lewis as well.

FUNKY LOVER

Ill start this-Daniel Day Lewis.

Ruu_Old

Come on, we gave England Terry Wogan, fair is fair.

Mr. Denton

Day Lewis has Irish citizenship. That's good enough for me. Do McIlroy and O'Bama?

ejmaztec

hondasam wrote: »

who did we claim ?

Benny Fitz.

man.about.town

liam neeson

willow tree

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm0GecqUr_o

always makes me smile, claiming others isnt just an irish thing

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

Daniel Day Lewis chose to live here and take Irish citizenship, so he is Irish in a way.

OPENROAD

willow tree wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm0GecqUr_o

always makes me smile, claiming others isnt just an irish thing

We do seem to do it more though

Kevin Duffy

man.about.town wrote: »

liam neeson

Born in Ballymena, hey. OP said people not born here, didn't he?

Yahew

OPENROAD wrote: »

We do seem to do it more though

Do we?

We have, so far, one person who lives here and has an Irish passport - Daniel Day Lewis, and who is legally Irish.

The OP didnt talk about English people of Irish descent, many of whom claim to be Irish anyway.In fact we tend to dismiss that as plastic paddy. I have never seen Dermot O'Learly called Irish in an Irish newspaper. He does, we don't.

His topic was people living here who we claim.

Dun

Mr. Denton wrote: »

Day Lewis has Irish citizenship. That's good enough for me. Do McIlroy and O'Bama?

McIlroy has it if he wants it, and is entitled to it as much as anybody else on the island.

theboss80

Mr. Denton wrote: »

We work out who Englands best footballers are and then we steal them for our team.

Guys like Kevin Kilbane, Caleb Folan and Paul Green for example.

Does not compute

Mr. Denton

Dun wrote: »

McIlroy has it if he wants it, and is entitled to it as much as anybody else on the island.

As such so is Ian Paisley, but I doubt he's availed of it. I'm wondering has McIlroy.

ejmaztec

Yahew wrote: »

Do we?

We have, so far, one person who lives here and has an Irish passport - Daniel Day Lewis, and who is legally Irish.

The OP didnt talk about English people of Irish descent, many of whom claim to be Irish anyway.In fact we tend to dismiss that as plastic paddy. I have never seen Dermot O'Learly called Irish in an Irish newspaper. He does, we don't.

His topic was people living here who we claim.

If he's eligible for Irish citizenship, and he says that he's Irish, then he's Irish.

yesno1234

Ya think we're bad apparently some fella from Scotland called Murray is going to be the first English tennis player to win Wimbledon in years.

OPENROAD

yesno1234 wrote: »

Ya think we're bad apparently some fella from Scotland called Murray is going to beat the first English tennis player to win Wimbledon in years.

Really haven't heard that

Mr. Denton

yesno1234 wrote: »

Ya think we're bad apparently some fella from Scotland called Murray is going to beat the first English tennis player to win Wimbledon in years.

So they've finally let him play in the womens tournament?

Yahew

OPENROAD wrote: »

Really haven't heard that

The English continutally call Murray English. Or British - which is admittedly true, but not Scottish.

now, where is the evidence for us claiming people who live here as Irish. This is a fact free thread so far.

Yahew

ejmaztec wrote: »

If he's eligible for Irish citizenship, and he says that he's Irish, then he's Irish.

I dont really care, however the fact is I have never seen Dermot who considers himself Irish, called Irish in Ireland.

But thats neither here nor there. I am still trying to rack my brains for people who live here and who are not Irish, but are considered Irish.

OPENROAD

Yahew wrote: »

The English continutally call Murray English. Or British - which is admittedly true, but not Scottish.

now, where is the evidence for us claiming people who live here as Irish. This is a fact free thread so far.

They don't call him English, I have never heard him called English,they may refer to him as British and as you say that is true.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

Born in Ballymena, hey. OP said people not born here, didn't he?

In before somebody claims that means hes British. Which it doesn't, at all.

OPENROAD

Yahew wrote: »

I dont really care, however the fact is I have never seen Dermot who considers himself Irish, called Irish in Ireland.

But thats neither here nor there. I am still trying to rack my brains for people who live here and who are not Irish, but are considered Irish.

Well I have certainly heard interviews with well known people where we play on the Irish connection. Fair enough not the same as claiming the person is Irish.:)

yesno1234

OPENROAD wrote: »

They don't call him English, I have never heard him called English,they may refer to him as British and as you say that is true.

Media constantly call's him English when he's winning. Then he crashes out (inevitably in every tournament) and he's Scottish again.

OPENROAD

yesno1234 wrote: »

Media constantly call's him English when he's winning. Then he crashes out (inevitably in every tournament) and he's Scottish again.

They don't, they never have, as said they may refer to him as British from time to time, but even when he is winning he is referred to as "Scotland's Andy Murray" only this evening on LBC in the sports news he was referred to as Scotish, if you listen to Five Lives coverage during the week it is Scotish/British.

Yahew

So who - not born here (in the Republic) do we call Irish?

pipelaser

Ill wade in with Eamon De Valera