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First Time Tribe Encounter with Civilized Man [Real or Fake?]

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,000 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    The kids Kwashiorkor is real enough:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwashiorkor

    If it is real the white dude is an asshole. Meets Indians. First thing he does is show them firesticks and video cameras. I mean I was almost expecting him to produce some whisky, crack cocaine and guns


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭policarp


    They have clothes which would mean the Spanish were there first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭aligator_am


    Cool vid and have always liked the song at the start :)

    Their reaction makes me think of how ancient man would have reacted if they'd met aliens or time travellers or something, and it's always nice to know that there's some folk in the world who don't spend their days worrying about the crap we have to :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    The 1st black guy has a pair of 1986 Liverpool shorts on him.

    Anyone got the lyrics to that song?. Wanna learn it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,000 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    Have to say the music did my head in


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭mjcom4d


    Think it could be fake


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    These tribes do exist

    here is one from a few months ago
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12360013


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 971 ✭✭✭CoalBucket


    Theyre all friends on Facebook now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Yes true skelliser, the video you posted does look genuine and comes from creditable sources. I'm just sceptical of the video I posted, it just seams very staged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭ascanbe


    Saw this years ago and asked myself the same question. Seems almost too perfect to be true, yet there are moments that seem too genuine to be fake.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Boobies at 10:24!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Boobies at 10:24!

    It's fairly sad that people flagged the video for that :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    If it is real I think the mirror bit was pretty interesting. To them it must have just seemed like a portal or something as they've no understanding of light or reflection.

    The handshaking was weird. Although it's possible they developed it on their own it's typically a western thing. And the fact that the white guy started to greet them by shaking their hand shows pure ignorance on his part, not something you'd expect from an anthropologist (assuming this guy is one).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    I think it's real. I might have been staged insofar as the white guys might have gone looking for them, but I think the reactions of the tribal people look very genuine, especially the initial fear and their reactions to the mirror too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Could be real. There's parts of the Papua New Guinea highlands that have yet to be explored by westerners.

    The first time aerial photography was taken the surveyors were amazed to find large scale agriculture taking place.

    New tribes have been encountered in PNG and have confirmed that things like laughing and counting for example are universal in humans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    If that is real, is it not highly likely the tribe has now been exposed to illnesses it has no immunity to? I call shenanigans but if it is real, that guy is an idiot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Had many encounters like this myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Daroxtar


    Could be real. There's parts of the Papua New Guinea highlands that have yet to be explored by westerners.

    The first time a aerial photography was taken the surveyors were amazed to find large scale agriculture taking place.

    New tribes have been encountered in PNG and have confirmed that things like laughing and counting for example are universal in humans.

    Incorrect, there's a tribe in the amazon basin, the Prahá, who have absolutely no concept of numbers. The closest they come to numbers is a word that means "Similar to" .
    FTR, I'd say the footage is real, if its 1976 sure most people in Ireland hadn't seen a black person at that stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Daroxtar


    Millicent wrote: »
    If that is real, is it not highly likely the tribe has now been exposed to illnesses it has no immunity to? I call shenanigans but if it is real, that guy is an idiot.

    Chances are that the tribe would have been exposed to illnesses by contact with other tribes who in turn had contact with westerners. The native north americans and meso/south americans were decimated across the whole of both continents in the space of a few years. By the time Pizarro, Cortez and any of the other conquistadors made it as far as the emperors their civilizations were on the point of collapse due to the plagues that had followed the initial contact a few years previously and had spread through inter tribal contact.
    On the other hand , white man has been in PNG for 200 years. Its highly unlikely that the tribe would not have had some contact with other tribes who themselves would have been exposed either directly or indirectly to our pathogens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Daroxtar wrote: »
    Incorrect, there's a tribe in the amazon basin, the Prahá, who have absolutely no concept of numbers. The closest they come to numbers is a word that means "Similar to".
    You're saying they don't have any concept of 1 and 2. Maybe so but I can't find any reference to them. I'll have to czech again later.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    Daroxtar wrote: »
    Chances are that the tribe would have been exposed to illnesses by contact with other tribes who in turn had contact with westerners. The native north americans and meso/south americans were decimated across the whole of both continents in the space of a few years. By the time Pizarro, Cortez and any of the other conquistadors made it as far as the emperors their civilizations were on the point of collapse due to the plagues that had followed the initial contact a few years previously and had spread through inter tribal contact.
    On the other hand , white man has been in PNG for 200 years. Its highly unlikely that the tribe would not have had some contact with other tribes who themselves would have been exposed either directly or indirectly to our pathogens.

    Cheers for that. I had thought that was one of the reasons that other tribes had been aerially observed rather than interacted with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Daroxtar wrote: »
    Incorrect, there's a tribe in the amazon basin, the Prahá, who have absolutely no concept of numbers. The closest they come to numbers is a word that means "Similar to" .

    Basic counting is apparently innate even without an understanding of words or numbers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Daroxtar wrote: »
    Incorrect, there's a tribe in the amazon basin, the Prahá, who have absolutely no concept of numbers. The closest they come to numbers is a word that means "Similar to" .
    FTR, I'd say the footage is real, if its 1976 sure most people in Ireland hadn't seen a black person at that stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Fake.

    That video was shot in the field at the back of Willow park in athlone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    PNG is a massive mountainous tree covered island. I'd say there are many uncorrupted tribes for us to discover and name after ourselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    Thanks for posting that - it was really incredible to watch and looks fairly real to me.

    The mirror was fascinating. Imagine seeing yourself for the first time and being really disappointed :D

    And was that rice he gave them to eat? I was wondering what the hitting of the head meant afterwards and I think I have worked it out.....






    Bland.


    Great vid :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Had many encounters like this myself.
    Didnt know you were an intrepid explorer in your spare time keith!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Didnt know you were an intrepid explorer in your spare time keith!

    Yeah, makes me question if he is really called Keith at all :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Didnt know you were an intrepid explorer in your spare time keith!
    lol ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭red menace


    Can help but feel that tribe would be 1000 times better off if they were left alone


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