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Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 2009-2011

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭Mountainlad


    Fireball07 wrote: »
    Fair enough...I just checked the RTE website and it didn't mention anything regarding that.

    A home draw is nice, I like the Gaelic Grounds for hurling matches. It's a nice ground.

    Hope we win but I'm really worried about Wexford, they could easily beat us.

    The sideline was a bit bare today, other than that it looked decent! I think ye'll beat Wexford.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭Mountainlad


    KevIRL wrote: »
    Every Munster final should be on in Thurles imo. Perfect venue for it.

    One thing for sure, we have a lot to be fearful of going into the game, no matter where its played. I'm normally an enternal optimist but Tipp are looking scary and now with 2 testing games behind them.

    The most important thing to me is a performance. I don't mind losing to a better team but if we go out and concede stupid goals like we did in 2009 or play as badly as we did last year I'd be disappointed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭STIG83


    Tipp can score goals, hopefully im wrong but if Waterford are not 100% in the backs, Tipp will rip us apart, im hoping to god that wont happen though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭Teebor15


    I have followed the county teams since i was wee lad..going to all games even as many league ones as i could..and was as desperate for us to get over the end line as much as the next diehard..but not any more...my first memory being the '89 munster final trimming we got of Tipp..even that did'nt disillusion me..but by god am i disillusioned now. Not by the management/players performance on the pitch..but off it..i'm referring to the recent decision to cancel next weekends round of senior football championship games because of the request of the county manager which is poor enough but expected..why would davy fitz give a bollocks..but when i hear some of the players also requesting same well thats it for me. I was due to play in one of thoses games..i have trained hard since Jan..made big sacrifices with work, kids etc..i pulled out of trip abroad based on the fixture list published months ago.

    I have had this **** before but always felt that the county players (some from my own club) who put in so much work deserve the support and its not their fault. But **** that..if them same players dont give a **** about me then why should i about them...so now..i dont. Its not that i want them beaten..its just now i dont care anymore.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Deise Tom


    Teebor15 wrote: »
    I have followed the county teams since i was wee lad..going to all games even as many league ones as i could..and was as desperate for us to get over the end line as much as the next diehard..but not any more...my first memory being the '89 munster final trimming we got of Tipp..even that did'nt disillusion me..but by god am i disillusioned now. Not by the management/players performance on the pitch..but off it..i'm referring to the recent decision to cancel next weekends round of senior football championship games because of the request of the county manager which is poor enough but expected..why would davy fitz give a bollocks..but when i hear some of the players also requesting same well thats it for me. I was due to play in one of thoses games..i have trained hard since Jan..made big sacrifices with work, kids etc..i pulled out of trip abroad based on the fixture list published months ago.

    I have had this **** before but always felt that the county players (some from my own club) who put in so much work deserve the support and its not their fault. But **** that..if them same players dont give a **** about me then why should i about them...so now..i dont. Its not that i want them beaten..its just now i dont care anymore.

    To cancel the football next weekend was a total crazy idea by our county board, some of whom are quickly becoming the laughing stock of the G.A.A. This time last year it was getting involved in the fixing of a venue they were involved with. This year its giving a kick in the ba!!s to so many of its ordionary members, the bread and butter of the G.A.A., the club members/players, some of whom we are told arranged different things around the fixtures released a few months back.

    There is a hell of a lot of anger out there right now towards some of our county board and maybe more so towards our county senior hurling selectors. My view there is well known so wont say too much.

    The Waterford footballers are going out to play the same weekend as the hurlers. Calling off the games next weekend now means that the team will be going into the game without a competitve game to gauge the players fitness and form. They can play all the challenge games and tournament games in the world but its not the same a championship game.

    One question i would love to have answered is, If John Owens and the Waterford Footballers asked for the hurling games in the championship this weekend to be called off, because they wanted to play a challenge game, go away on a bonding weekend or what ever, would they have been granted the request. Not on your nellie.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    For all the talk of their forwards, its the Tipp half backs I fear the most. They were unreal second half today, especially Paudie Maher, who'll be hurler of the yer if he keeps that up. People say our fullback line is our weakest, but when is the last time we had a good half forward line? Those Tipp half backs could murder our half forwards, who look physically not the strongest. In the modern game, if your half back line is winning ball and getting good supply into your forwards you have the game as good as won. Thats where I feel they'll clean us out - their forwards are only as good as the quality of ball thats played into them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Deise Tom


    flahavaj wrote: »
    For all the talk of their forwards, its the Tipp half backs I fear the most. They were unreal second half today, especially Paudie Maher, who'll be hurler of the yer if he keeps that up. People say our fullback line is our weakest, but when is the last time we had a good half forward line? Those Tipp half backs could murder our half forwards, who look physically not the strongest. In the modern game, if your half back line is winning ball and getting good supply into your forwards you have the game as good as won. Thats where I feel they'll clean us out - their forwards are only as good as the quality of ball thats played into them.


    That is why i guess Waterford play this stupid short puck out to get the ball over their heads. While the short puck out and then the long one over the half backs heads is a way around of avoid them getting some sort of advantage, when it goes wrong as it often does, it can spell a lot of danger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,748 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Group 1

    Ballyduff Upper 1-10(13)-Fourmilewater 2-15(21)
    De La Salle 1-21(24)-Lismore 3-09(18)
    Stradbally 0-10 -Abbeyside 3-14(23)

    Group 2

    Dungarvan 1-16 (19)-Roanmore 1-14 (17)
    Mount Sion 2-17 (23)-Tallow 3-14(23)
    Ballygunner 3-19(28)- Passage 1-09(12)

    Round 4 is set to take place on Sat/Sun 16/17 July but if Waterford are involved in the All Ireland Quarter Finals on Sunday 24th July, matches might be refixed not 100% sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 namespace


    Deise Tom wrote: »
    One question i would love to have answered is, If John Owens and the Waterford Footballers asked for the hurling games in the championship this weekend to be called off, because they wanted to play a challenge game, go away on a bonding weekend or what ever, would they have been granted the request. Not on your nellie.

    We would never request this, we don't dictate.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Deise Tom


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Group 1

    Ballyduff Upper 1-10(13)-Fourmilewater 2-15(21)
    De La Salle 1-21(24)-Lismore 3-09(18)
    Stradbally 0-10 -Abbeyside 3-14(23)

    Group 2

    Dungarvan 1-16 (19)-Roanmore 1-14 (17)
    Mount Sion 2-17 (23)-Tallow 3-14(23)
    Ballygunner 3-19(28)- Passage 1-09(12)

    Round 4 is set to take place on Sat/Sun 16/17 July but if Waterford are involved in the All Ireland Quarter Finals on Sunday 24th July, matches might be refixed not 100% sure.


    It will be interesting to see. If Waterford were to lose the Munster Final, it would mean that they are out is it two weeks later in the quarter finals. I am sure that Davy will have another letter and a pasionate plea to the county board to call off the games. If he dont, it says a lot. And if we keep putting back out games, there is a risk that we will have no team in the Munster Club Championships which would be a crying shame. How many times have we been in a final in football and hurling in the last number of years. The calling off of games will also have a effect on the lower grade competitions as well, or is it a case that we have people who dont care about these grades (ie the ones that look for the games to be off), and they are only interested in the area around their own little bubble.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭deiseach


    I don't blame Davy for asking, I blame the County Board for agreeing. At the moment I'm planning holidays and trying to keep any dates Waterford might be playing free. Imagine doing the same at the start of the summer for your club only to be told that no, ye're not going to playing that weekend after all and will have to find the time later on in the summer. I can see lots of sporty types throwing their hat at it and playing soccer instead, and you couldn't blame them


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Deise Tom


    deiseach wrote: »
    I don't blame Davy for asking, I blame the County Board for agreeing. At the moment I'm planning holidays and trying to keep any dates Waterford might be playing free. Imagine doing the same at the start of the summer for your club only to be told that no, ye're not going to playing that weekend after all and will have to find the time later on in the summer. I can see lots of sporty types throwing their hat at it and playing soccer instead, and you couldn't blame them


    It was reported last week that Davy and the selectors had asked at the County Board meeting to have next weeks games called off, but were rightly refused. When they did not get what they wanted, it appears a second letter was wrote and a number of players were asked to approach the county board and plead with them to call off the games. This to me is Davy acting a proper baby, throwing their rattle out of their pram till they get what they want.

    I can see this happening again in the future unless the board, which is the officers and the clubs stand up and be counted for. To be fair to the clubs this time they made their decision but for some reason was not abided with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,748 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Deise Tom wrote: »
    It was reported last week that Davy and the selectors had asked at the County Board meeting to have next weeks games called off, but were rightly refused. When they did not get what they wanted, it appears a second letter was wrote and a number of players were asked to approach the county board and plead with them to call off the games. This to me is Davy acting a proper baby, throwing their rattle out of their pram till they get what they want.

    I can see this happening again in the future unless the board, which is the officers and the clubs stand up and be counted for. To be fair to the clubs this time they made their decision but for some reason was not abided with.

    Davy Fitz is doing what he thinks is best for Waterford hurlers, which is his job. It is the County Board's job to look out for the overall interests of Waterford GAA, including the club footballers, not Davy's. You should be criticising them for folding on their previous decision not Davy. His job is not to look out for the interests of club footballers in Waterford. But the opportunity to have a cut at him is too easy for you to resist, as per usual.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭liogairmhordain


    PTH2009 wrote: »


    interesting that link specifies the following sunday as the replay date if needed.
    none of this saturday night nonsense from last year.
    think waterford will be doing well to come near to getting a draw though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭liogairmhordain


    Deise Tom wrote: »
    there is a risk that we will have no team in the Munster Club Championships .

    i agree that the county board should have held firm on this one. however, as per your own post - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=70139359&postcount=2472 - the waterford senior hurling champions are playing munster championship on the 30th of october (19 weeks away); and the waterford senior football champions are playing munster championship on the 6th of november (20 weeks away). no need to worry too much just yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,748 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    My Team for final would be

    1 A Power (For his puck outs, shot stopping)

    2 D Fives
    3 L Lawlor
    4 N Connors

    5 D Prendergast
    6 M Walsh
    7 K Moran

    8 S Molumphy
    9 R Foley

    10 P Mahony
    11 S O Sullivan
    12 E Kelly

    13 J Mullane
    14 S Walsh
    15 B O Sullivan

    Tony Browne could be danger of getting a roasting off the Tipp half forward line and should come on as a sub. IF Eoin Murphy is back training he should also come on a sub


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,748 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Davy Fitz is doing what he thinks is best for Waterford hurlers, which is his job. It is the County Board's job to look out for the overall interests of Waterford GAA, including the club footballers, not Davy's. You should be criticising them for folding on their previous decision not Davy. His job is not to look out for the interests of club footballers in Waterford. But the opportunity to have a cut at him is too easy for you to resist, as per usual.:rolleyes:

    Its Davy's fault the weather is bad lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭deiseach


    Lads, should we lose the Munster final - perish the thought - when would we be playing next? gaainfo has the game down for Saturday 23/7 but the Indo has it on Sunday 24/7.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,748 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    deiseach wrote: »
    Lads, should we lose the Munster final - perish the thought - when would we be playing next? gaainfo has the game down for Saturday 23/7 but the Indo has it on Sunday 24/7.

    Id say it will be the Sunday 24th July. Double Header in Thurles or Croke Park


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Et Cetera


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    My Team for final would be

    1 A Power (For his puck outs, shot stopping)

    2 D Fives
    3 L Lawlor
    4 N Connors

    5 D Prendergast
    6 M Walsh
    7 K Moran

    8 S Molumphy
    9 R Foley

    10 P Mahony
    11 S O Sullivan
    12 E Kelly

    13 J Mullane
    14 S Walsh
    15 B O Sullivan

    Tony Browne could be danger of getting a roasting off the Tipp half forward line and should come on as a sub. IF Eoin Murphy is back training he should also come on a sub

    Kind of worried without having Brick full back, we'll leak goals against Tip. A shame to not have him around No6/No8, but we have no one good enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71 ✭✭egpower


    Et Cetera wrote: »
    Kind of worried without having Brick full back, we'll leak goals against Tip. A shame to not have him around No6/No8, but we have no one good enough

    The danger was not in the full back line yesterday. The gap was in the half backline, exploited by Bonner Maher and Lar. Better to have Brick around there than in FB. Not sure Tony still has 70 minutes but not sure Declan is the answer either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭Daysha


    Lads I'm working until 1pm the day of the Munster final. Presume it'll still be doable to get to Pairc ui Chaoimh in time yeah? Will be coming from the city.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Deise Tom


    deiseach wrote: »
    Lads, should we lose the Munster final - perish the thought - when would we be playing next? gaainfo has the game down for Saturday 23/7 but the Indo has it on Sunday 24/7.


    Its the 24th. The quarter finals are usually a double hearder, aren't they.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Daysha wrote: »
    Lads I'm working until 1pm the day of the Munster final. Presume it'll still be doable to get to Pairc ui Chaoimh in time yeah? Will be coming from the city.

    Its goin to be on in thurles daysha


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭suitcasepink


    Its goin to be on in thurles daysha

    Really?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Yeah Waterford County Board have approached tipp with an offer to hold the game in thurles for a considerable financial exchange


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Et Cetera


    Yeah Waterford County Board have approached tipp with an offer to hold the game in thurles for a considerable financial exchange

    Everyone would be a winner!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭suitcasepink


    Yeah Waterford County Board have approached tipp with an offer to hold the game in thurles for a considerable financial exchange

    I hope it is in Thurles... But tickets will be printed soon so there wont be much time to put the idea forward ot the Munster Council will there?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭Mountainlad


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    My Team for final would be

    1 A Power (For his puck outs, shot stopping)

    2 D Fives
    3 L Lawlor
    4 N Connors

    5 D Prendergast
    6 M Walsh
    7 K Moran

    8 S Molumphy
    9 R Foley

    10 P Mahony
    11 S O Sullivan
    12 E Kelly

    13 J Mullane
    14 S Walsh
    15 B O Sullivan

    Tony Browne could be danger of getting a roasting off the Tipp half forward line and should come on as a sub. IF Eoin Murphy is back training he should also come on a sub

    Prendergast better than Tony? Come on in fairness.


    Tipp half forward line has seriously undergone a transformation. The one interesting thing about yesterday was Noel McGrath was poor. I think Ringo should be in the halfback line, either instead of Tony or else putting Moran in midfield and maybe moving Foley into the half forward line.

    The team I think will start for the Munster Final;

    1 C Hennessey

    2 D Fives
    3 L Lawlor
    4 N Connors

    5 T Browne
    6 M Walsh
    7 K Moran

    8 S Molumphy
    9 R Foley

    10 P Mahony
    11 S O Sullivan
    12 M Shanahan

    13 J Mullane
    14 S Walsh
    15 B O Sullivan

    It's hard to see anything else!


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