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Cannabis & Cancer... Cancer.GOV

  • 18-06-2011 08:44PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭


    http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional
    One study in mice and rats suggested that cannabinoids may have a protective effect against the development of certain types of tumors. [3] During this 2-year study, groups of mice and rats were given various doses of THC by gavage. A dose-related decrease in the incidence of hepatic adenoma tumors and hepatocellular carcinoma was observed in the mice. Decreased incidences of benign tumors (polyps and adenomas) in other organs (mammary gland, uterus, pituitary, testis, and pancreas) were also noted in the rats. In another study, delta-9-THC, delta-8-THC, and cannabinol were found to inhibit the growth of Lewis lung adenocarcinoma cells in vitro and in vivo .[4] In addition, other tumors have been shown to be sensitive to cannabinoid-induced growth inhibition.

    Over the past 50 years, cancers have been on the rise. Is it only a matter of junk, processed and cheap foods?
    In addition, both plant-derived and endogenous cannabinoids have been studied for anti- inflammatory effects. A mouse study demonstrated that endogenous cannabinoid system signaling is likely to provide intrinsic protection against colonic inflammation. [13] As a result, a hypothesis that phytocannabinoids and endocannabinoids may be useful in the prevention and treatment of colorectal cancer has been developed.[14]

    Last time I checked Ireland was very high for these types of cancers. Cannabis may not only be used in treatments but its increasingly becoming more obvious that cannabis, if consumed in the right way (vaporizer for example) can actually become a potent preventative medicine.
    At present, there is insufficient evidence to recommend inhaling Cannabis as a treatment for cancer-related symptoms or cancer treatment–related side effects outside the context of well-designed clinical trials.

    Normal combustion would never be a good idea. However, there have been very little studies and money available for researchers to even begin studies. Researchers will follow the money. Lets face it, corporations & pharma dont want us to use cannabis as it will in the long run massively effect their profits. Cannabis has been used for over 3000 years as a medicine. It is the only substance our bodies are hard wired to compliment. The oppression needs to end so that we can perform more and bigger clinical studies.

    There are so many of our younger generation smoking now its unreal. The problem with this is that they can only get it from criminals and let me tell you, cannabis is almost as easy to get as alcohol and much easier to get than alcohol if you are under 18. This quality of marijuana is low and taken to another level altogether when you factor in all the toxins criminals here put into it to make it heavier in order to make more profit. These toxins are unknowns and people are harming themselves all over the country due to prohibition.

    Personally I had something taken from me by the customs recently (personal amount). I had obtained the marijuana (medical grade) from another country. So all this confiscation did was to make me go down to local criminals to see what kind of stuff they had on offer. Thankfully this time it was clean so I bought it. I duplicated the same amount of money spent but on lower quality produce and funding criminals, making them more powerful and enriched. The also send the money out of the country to obtain their stocks but they jsut happen to be better at getting it into the country than me.

    To be honest, this might sound a little bitter but it is my true feelings. I would rather see this society destroy itself with these ridiculous drug policies than to give up marijuana. This is a life decision that I will never change. I am 26 years old.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭bigbudda


    Alot of the stuff is homegrown here....its not as good but doesn't mean the money is being shipped abroad.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭Captcha


    bigbudda wrote: »
    Alot of the stuff is homegrown here....its not as good but doesn't mean the money is being shipped abroad.....

    Of course there is homegrown stuff. I know for a fact that the guys I got it off import it. Also organised gangs country-wide prefer to import it. Its not even the gangs that contaminate it. Its usually the chavs down the chain who contaminate it trying to max their profits.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭wild_cat


    Captcha wrote: »
    Of course there is homegrown stuff. I know for a fact that the guys I got it off import it.

    Would you really want to divulge that kind of information on a public forum?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Wife found fresh veg lightly cooked, even better raw and tomatoes and grapes with seeds a massive help, it worked, and is perfectly legal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭Captcha


    wild_cat wrote: »
    Would you really want to divulge that kind of information on a public forum?

    I don't run off with my tail between my legs.

    I am proud that I smoke marijuana and not confined by the mis-placed "moral" perceptions of this country any more. Come, arrest me, take my wages (which all come from the UK) away from this economy for a spliff or two. Instead of approx xxK going in it will cost you 100K per year to imprison me :) "must be the smart economy, silly" :-)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    Preachin' to the choir dude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭Captcha


    Sea Sharp wrote: »
    Preachin' to the choir dude.

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭wild_cat


    Yeah. Sound. You smoke. Cool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    galwayrush wrote: »
    Wife found fresh veg lightly cooked, even better raw and tomatoes and grapes with seeds a massive help, it worked, and is perfectly legal.
    Yeah, but do they get you baked?
    wild_cat wrote: »
    Would you really want to divulge that kind of information on a public forum?
    I'm sure the guards are tracing his IP as we speak.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    And some people want to smoke it for the buzz.

    The people who support the illegality of drugs are either sadists or making money from it imo.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭Captcha


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    Yeah, but do they get you baked?

    I'm sure the guards are tracing his IP as we speak.

    The guards wouldn't have anything to do with it unless there was a speeding ticket or something involved. You don't even know how your own civil service works?

    The "guards" as you call them do not need my IP. They know who I am and they know I smoke weed. Its as simple as that. To be fair to them, I don't get any hassle. The customs lady I spoke with regarding this agreed with my stance on marijuana.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    Captcha wrote: »
    The guards wouldn't have anything to do with it unless there was a speeding ticket or something involved. You don't even know how your own civil service works?

    The "guards" as you call them do not need my IP. They know who I am and they know I smoke weed. Its as simple as that. To be fair to them, I don't get any hassle.
    Envisage a pair of sarcasm tags around my comment and read it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭Captcha


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    Envisage a pair of sarcasm tags around my comment and read it again.

    Ok sorry, thank you for your comment :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Captcha wrote: »
    This quality of marijuana is low and taken to another level altogether when you factor in all the toxins criminals here put into it to make it heavier in order to make more profit.
    The quality of cannabis has gone up a lot in recent years, I think your more or less talking about soap (brown bar that you have to burn into spliffs) which at best contains a quarter of cannabis. This stuff is muck, people here call it hash but it's not, hash is a concentrated version of weed, it's the best you can get and nothing like soap. Quality weed in Ireland is the side effect of better customs controls at borders but shows that if you block one route there's always other ways to get through.


    Medical cannabis is a no brainer, withholding it from terminal patients is disgusting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    Yeah, but do they get you baked?

    .

    No, but they helped get her over her cancer.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭Captcha


    ScumLord wrote: »
    The quality of cannabis has gone up a lot in recent years, I think your more or less talking about soap (brown bar that you have to burn into spliffs) which at best contains a quarter of cannabis. This stuff is muck, people here call it hash but it's not, hash is a concentrated version of weed, it's the best you can get and nothing like soap. Quality weed in Ireland is the side effect of better customs controls at borders but shows that if you block one route there's always other ways to get through.


    Medical cannabis is a no brainer, withholding it from terminal patients is disgusting.

    The weed seems like it is clean but to an experienced eye you will find it is in the large part contaminated by the criminals who sell it in the streets to make it heavier. its harder to distinguish in the weed unfortunately :( Killing our kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    ''Misplaced moral perceptions'':rolleyes:

    So you think it's fine to support lowlife scumbag dealers who cant get a real job? Think about where your money is going, what will they spend it on? Bullets for their next murder?

    People who think it's okay just because they don't harm anybody because they just smoking it are just naive.

    If their was no demand their would be no supply, and how many lives could have been spared if there never was a drug trade? But there is no point saying this to you, firstly you're probably to stubborn to take notice and secondly, unfortunately one person stopping doesn't make a fúck bit of difference:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    ''Misplaced moral perceptions'':rolleyes:

    That's what got us to the stage we are at already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Captcha wrote: »
    The guards wouldn't have anything to do with it unless there was a speeding ticket or something involved. You don't even know how your own civil service works?

    The "guards" as you call them do not need my IP. They know who I am and they know I smoke weed. Its as simple as that. To be fair to them, I don't get any hassle. The customs lady I spoke with regarding this agreed with my stance on marijuana.
    Ming?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭Lefticus Loonaticus


    And some people want to smoke it for the buzz.

    The people who support the illegality of drugs are either sadists or making money from it imo.


    Theres a whole industry around illegal drugs, it works in their favor so they wanna keep it the way it is. The guards, the alcohaul industry, the judicery, the prison services, customs, the right wing politicians and the drug gangs. They are all creaming it at our expense and they aint gonna give it up any time soon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    mikom wrote: »
    That's what got us to the stage we are at already.

    And making it acceptable for everybody to go out any feed the gang wars with their money is going to help us how?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    And making it acceptable for everybody to go out any feed the gang wars with their money is going to help us how?

    Individual growers licence for 3 plants 250 Euro a year.
    There's the end to your cannabis gang wars.

    To solve other gang wars you'll have to ask someone else.

    You've been fed a line of shite about the gang wars by the way.
    If the government could clone lads like you they would.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    mikom wrote: »
    Individual growers licence for 3 plants 250 Euro a year.
    There's the end to your cannabis gang wars.

    To solve other gang wars you'll have to ask someone else.

    You've been fed a line of shite about the gang wars by the way.

    It will always be cheaper when it's mass produced, so dealers will just make it cheaper to keep the punters coming. And how ill you police that? It will not end drug dealing.

    Perhaps there should be a campaign to get parents to do all in their power to stop their kids becoming users? A long shot but what's the harm in trying?

    Whats this line of ****e you speak of, or are you unwilling to accept some home truths? Why would they clone me, because I won't be adding to the prison system crisis or mental health pandemic caused by cannabis use?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    ''Misplaced moral perceptions'':rolleyes:

    So you think it's fine to support lowlife scumbag dealers who cant get a real job? Think about where your money is going, what will they spend it on? Bullets for their next murder?
    That's a problem with the law, I like cannabis, there's no reason in the world why I shouldn't smoke it, if the government don't like me giving money to the criminals (although anyone who touches cannabis is a criminal so the word loses meaning here) legalise it and I'll be happy to buy it through legal channels. Just like with products that come from slave labour you can't expect the end user who wants the product to consider the ins and outs of how the product get's to them, it's like expecting a cow to know the ins and outs of how grass grows. They don't care they just want the grass. Like it or not that's the facts people are going to use cannabis.
    Captcha wrote: »
    The weed seems like it is clean but to an experienced eye you will find it is in the large part contaminated by the criminals who sell it in the streets to make it heavier. its harder to distinguish in the weed unfortunately :( Killing our kids.
    I think the contaminated weed has been blown out of proportion. I haven't come across it lately and if the growers want to make their weed heavier just send it out before it's dried properly (which they're doing) and you double the weight easily without any effort.
    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    It will always be cheaper when it's mass produced, so dealers will just make it cheaper to keep the punters coming. And how ill you police that? It will not end drug dealing.
    You cannot mass produce anything without the government knowing, mass production will only come with legalisation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    It will always be cheaper when it's mass produced, so dealers will just make it cheaper to keep the punters coming. And how ill you police that? It will not end drug dealing.

    Worked for alcohol.
    Not too many poitin stills around these days.
    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    Perhaps there should be a campaign to get parents to do all in their power to stop their kids becoming users? A long shot but what's the harm in trying?

    Agreed, children should not smoke cannabis, tobacco, or consume alcohol........... unless it is altar wine.
    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    Whats this line of ****e you speak of, or are you unwilling to accept some home truths?

    The constant linking of cannabis to gangs and gang warfare.
    It's nothing like that on the ground.......... away from the tabloids and liveline.
    Where do you get your information?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭Lefticus Loonaticus


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    It will always be cheaper when it's mass produced, so dealers will just make it cheaper to keep the punters coming. And how ill you police that? It will not end drug dealing.

    Perhaps there should be a campaign to get parents to do all in their power to stop their kids becoming users? A long shot but what's the harm in trying?

    Whats this line of ****e you speak of, or are you unwilling to accept some home truths? Why would they clone me, because I won't be adding to the prison system crisis or mental health pandemic caused by cannabis use?

    Cannabis is only the property of drug gangs because of government policy.

    People who smoke weed are not 'users' any more than people down the pub are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    ScumLord wrote: »
    That's a problem with the law, I like cannabis, there's no reason in the world why I shouldn't smoke it, if the government don't like me giving money to the criminals (although anyone who touches cannabis is a criminal so the word loses meaning here) legalise it and I'll be happy to buy it through legal channels.

    So you have no problem that certain percentage of your money that you will spend on weed could go towards paying for a killing or assault?

    I also think it is childish and irresponsible to not think of where the supply it comes from. The fact that the buyers don't says more about cannabis users more than anything else tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    mikom wrote: »
    The constant linking of cannabis to gangs and gang warfare.
    It's nothing like that on the ground.......... away from the tabloids and liveline.
    Where do you get your information?

    So cannabis is not imported by the same scum that import every other drug as well? How are the people that import and sell cannabis any different than those that import and sell heroin? I doubt you would find any decent people doing it anyway!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    So you have no problem that certain percentage of your money that you will spend on weed could go towards paying for a killing or assault?
    Have you no problem that a certain proportion of your money goes towards the enslavement and beating of children to put coffee on your table and clothes on your back?

    Cannabis isn't the problem, the law creates the playground for people to profit out of it outside of civilised society.

    There's nothing wrong with growing or using cannabis it's only a law that creates the problem of organised crime. That's the problem not my cannabis use.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    So cannabis is not imported by the same scum that import every other drug as well? How are the people that import and sell cannabis any different than those that import and sell heroin? I doubt you would find any decent people doing it anyway!

    I've highlighted the parts which are for the most part inaccurate.
    Anyone who is not sheltered but out and about will know this.
    Any connection with heroin has been forced by the current prohibition regime.

    An all too common senario:

    John an out of work plumber grows a few cannabis plants...... not poppies.... but cannabis.
    He smokes some himself and sells a bit to his neighbor Bob, which helps him pay for the electricity and leaves a bit of spending money to keep house and home together.
    Far from gangland.


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