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Pizza in 30 mins Garda in ????

  • 16-06-2011 09:20AM
    #1
    Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭


    Well i was woken this morning to some screaming outside. I took a look out the window to see an argument between a small guy and a big muscled guy in MMA shorts. This went back and fourth until the little guy was pushed over and then beaten. He got up but was punched to the ground again. Whilst on the ground he was getting kicked in the head. I immediately called the guards. I told them that there is a guy being beaten up. He is actually being kicked in the head. I told them were its happening . They said they will send somebody over. I was then going to go out and try to stop it , only for the other half stopped me and said let the guards deal with it, dont get involved as they are neighbors. So we waited for the guards.

    An hour later still no sign, another 30 minutes still no sign , i had to go to work. Going to work an hour and 45 mins later they were still on the green lying on the grass. The argument still going on. I couldnt see how hurt the guy was.

    All i could think of , what if i was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I would have to fight for my life as i cannot depend on the guards. For me i have contacted the garda 3 times in my life.

    Once when they a man was breaking into a neighbor of my mothers , she was in on her own with her kids crying. I ran out and had to chase him away. She had called the garda crying saying a man was breaking in . Time was 1 hour 45 mins . They also never asked me for a description

    Second time , a Girl was mugged outside my office just as i was leaving. The guys who mugged the girl made their way to pearse street . I ran into the station to say they were outside. I will point them out. They told me there was nobody there that could do it. They would have to call one of the cars. They said i could go, i asked them if they needed a description , they said "oh yes"

    Third time was thismorning , unfortunately i was unable to get a time. Is it just me or is this service terrible ?


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Uhoh, Makikomi's on the warpath...

    Seriously though, never had a problem with the response time myself. Mainly because I didn't bother calling them when I was mugged. The mugger woke up with a bad headache from the full bottle of wine I bounced on his head.

    Seriously though, most altercations are over by the time the Gardai step in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    It'll only get worse, Templemore is basically empty after today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    Report it to the Garda ombudsman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    Your trying to tell me the guards are not the most elite crime fighting unit in existence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,274 ✭✭✭_feedback_


    That is a pretty atrocious state of affairs. Presumably others would have called the guards too, and not just yourself.

    I have had mostly good experience with reports, and a quick appearance from them, with one exception, when they didn't turn up. It wasn't anything as serious as your report though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I can source pizza far quicker than half an hour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭JohnMarston


    Its making people take matters into their own hands as a necessity to getting anything done about it.
    So either they don't want to get their hands dirty or they're simply not bothered. There's also a small chance they're off on another call.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,165 ✭✭✭enda1


    This didn't happen OP did it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    I might be showing my age here but ... MMA shorts?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    screaming outside...an argument between a small guy and a big muscled guy in MMA shorts...Going to work an hour and 45 mins later they were still on the green lying on the grass.

    Sounds like a lovers tiff tbh, Gardai probably had CCTV on them and figured it was a domestic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭jimthemental


    It's been a while since I actually had a positive view towards them. There's a spate of robberies where I live and I haven't seen the gaurds patrol it in my lifetime, yet they are happy to sit outside the local or come in and hassle us at 12:30 on a Friday because we haven't cleared out yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,257 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    mathie wrote: »
    I might be showing my age here but ... MMA shorts?

    Rip Curl or Billabong boardies :)

    Just sounds cooler the other way


  • Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mackg wrote: »
    Your trying to tell me the guards are not the most elite crime fighting unit in existence?

    All they have to do is show up. I would be impressed with that.

    We actually have video of it too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    Sounds like a lovers tiff tbh, Gardai probably had CCTV on them and figured it was a domestic
    This went back and fourth until the little guy was pushed over and then beaten. He got up but was punched to the ground again. Whilst on the ground he was getting kicked in the head. I immediately called the guards. I told them that there is a guy being beaten up. He is actually being kicked in the head.

    Does domestic violence not warrant the guards attention?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,495 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    You can't blame the Gardai. They are under-resourced and have to prioritise calls. The way to get them onsite is to escalate your emergency - tell them there's a sword/shotgun/doughnuts involved.

    You elected the govt which has cut policing. There will be no more new Gardai for at least two years, and during this time many will leave the force.

    You wanted cuts in Public Service spending. This is one of the results.

    OP, get on to your local TD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    mackg wrote: »
    Does domestic violence not warrant the guards attention?

    Officially yes, unofficially no. Often the guy gets arrested on assault charges which are later dropped by the complainant. 'scuse my blatant sexism there but most times thats how domestics pan out. I was told that by a retired Garda sergeant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,450 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Rabies wrote: »
    Rip Curl or Billabong boardies :)

    Just sounds cooler the other way

    I reckon he meant Mixed Martial Arts shorts i.e, the guy was trained.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Tell them you think the guy's been murdered.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭u140acro3xs7dm


    Its just crazy, there are so many break ins and if caught they are not afraid to use violence. Its got to the stage where i have armed myself as i cant rely on the Police to bother showing up. Funny thing is if i smash one of them over the head with something i will get charged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    Its just crazy, there are so many break ins and if caught they are not afraid to use violence. Its got to the stage where i have armed myself as i cant rely on the Police to bother showing up. Funny thing is if i smash one of them over the head with something i will get charged.

    Wasn't this law changed/ a change proposed recently?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    mackg wrote: »
    Your trying to tell me the guards are not the most elite crime fighting unit in existence?

    Nope, that would be The Fantastic Four.


  • Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You can't blame the Gardai. They are under-resourced and have to prioritise calls.

    So is everybody else. Also i dont think there is a decline on them giving tickets. There seems to be enough of them on traffic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,495 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    So is everybody else. Also i dont think there is a decline on them giving tickets. There seems to be enough of them on traffic.

    Isn't Traffic a separate dept? That others are under-resourced doesn't change the fact that the Gardai are, so I don't get your point. If it takes 50 Gardai to police a district and they only have 35 isn't altered by the local school being short two teachers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Orando Broom


    Rabies wrote: »
    Rip Curl or Billabong boardies :)

    Just sounds cooler the other way

    Can the OP prove they were hi-his shorts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    OP - Next time you call the Gardai, tell them that a pizza is on the way. I guarantee they'll probably arrive at your door 10-15 minutes before the pizza gets there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭willow tree


    yeah ive had my respect for how force is run diminish... they hassle the crap of people who are going 10 k over speed limit,parked badly and a serious crime is going on and they cant get there? of course policing the roads is so important but peoples safety is number 1.
    my friend and i were attacked by a man ( i dont want to go into it) but guards told us (when they finally arrived) that he was trying to take our bags (no he wasnt, our bags were lying on the ground):mad:before they headed off. if it wasnt for 3 girls who helped us i dont want to think what would have happened.
    my brother and his girlfriend were being attacked by scumbags , luckily my brothers big and just punched his way out so they ran and rang guards to come help. they were told the guards were too busy in the next town:(
    ive moved from dublin to the country, people where i live have guns to protect themselves. they will use them before they sit waiting for the guards to come help them, this is the way its headed.so wrong


  • Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Isn't Traffic a separate dept? That others are under-resourced doesn't change the fact that the Gardai are, so I don't get your point. If it takes 50 Gardai to police a district and they only have 35 isn't altered by the local school being short two teachers.

    So what you are saying the traffic department is not under resourced ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    I used to have a lot of respect for the Gardai until about two years ago when I was rudely made aware, first hand witness to someone elses problems, of actually how apathetic, incompetent and uncaring quite a few of them are towards the troubles of the citizens they're supposed to uphold the law of the land for.

    Can't blame them my arse. I can and I do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    Officially yes, unofficially no. Often the guy gets arrested on assault charges which are later dropped by the complainant. 'scuse my blatant sexism there but most times thats how domestics pan out. I was told that by a retired Garda sergeant.

    Charges or not if someone is getting beaten in the street they should put a stop to it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭cosanostra


    stovelid wrote: »
    I can source Heroin far quicker than half an hour.

    FYP


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