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David Norris for President....would you vote for him?

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  • #1412
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Spread wrote: »
    It may be a silly law ..... but it is the law.

    And that's why people have no heed of it.
    All it fosters is lack of respect for the judiciary and law enforcement...... who if right were right would point it out as a load of bunkum.......... they don't, so the element of trust is shaken.
    And that's a natural law.


  • #1413
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    zuroph wrote: »
    just put him on ignore, or at least stop quoting him, he shows up on my page when you quote him! The broken record just started skipping again.
    Let me put it this way, if I was a mod, anyone trying repeatedly and with malice to pass opinion off as fact, would be banned after a few a few warnings!

    Someone please make me a mod!


  • #1414
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Either the flaming and digs stop or thread bans will be handed out.

    don't ruin it for the people who actually want to discuss this.

    Final warning for everyone.


  • #1415
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Biggins wrote: »
    Let me put it this way, if I was a mod, anyone trying repeatedly and with malice to pass opinion off as fact, would be banned after a few a few warnings!

    Someone please make me a mod!

    You'd get my vote.
    Any ten year old McGill interviews you want to come clean about............


  • #1416
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    mikom wrote: »
    You'd get my vote.
    Any ten year old McGill interviews you want to come clean about............
    Naa, they haven't dug them up yet so I'm in the clear so far! :pac:


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  • #1417
    Spread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    Either the flaming and digs stop or thread bans will be handed out.

    don't ruin it for the people who actually want to discuss this.

    Final warning for everyone.

    Phew! I'm off for a cup of Camomile tea and an afternoon snooze :)


  • #1418
    sesna
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭sesna


    I heard Norris on the radio this morning explaining why his views dont constitute paedophilia. Some election campaign he is running !


  • #1419
    Da Shins Kelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    I was fairly sure I was gonna vote for him before, but after this smear campaign, I'm definitely sure. This article by yer wan is just a shallow attempt to portray him as some sort of pervert. It's nothing short of homophobia, and I hope this campaign backfires on these people who won't just admit that they don't like gay people simply because they know they can't justify it.


  • #1420
    sesna
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭sesna


    Da Shins Kelly wrote: »
    I was fairly sure I was gonna vote for him before, but after this smear campaign, I'm definitely sure. This article by yer wan is just a shallow attempt to portray him as some sort of pervert. It's nothing short of homophobia, and I hope this campaign backfires on these people who won't just admit that they don't like gay people simply because they know they can't justify it.

    Your comments on Helen Lucy Burke are really pathetic and heterophobic


  • #1421
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Spread wrote: »
    OK then, what took him so long? He likes centre stage and he would have got it a lot earlier. Perhaps he was waiting for the wind of change to come behind him. Just like the fudging and fence-sitting in his recent statement.

    Due process, and the Supreme Court valuing "Christian and democratic nature of the Irish State" over people's human rights. 1988 Norris won his case in Europe and only the FF/Lab government in 1993 found time to enact that ruling in legislation.


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  • #1422
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Da Shins Kelly wrote: »
    I was fairly sure I was gonna vote for him before, but after this smear campaign, I'm definitely sure. This article by yer wan is just a shallow attempt to portray him as some sort of pervert. It's nothing short of homophobia, and I hope this campaign backfires on these people who won't just admit that they don't like gay people simply because they know they can't justify it.
    I would have said it was sensationalist at least and it was giving some just some sort of excuse so that they can legitimise for public appearances, their bigotry in some cases.


  • #1423
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Spread wrote: »
    Phew! I'm off for a cup of Camomile tea

    http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/3/32/KennethWilliams.jpg/300px-KennethWilliams.jpg


  • #1424
    RachaelVO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,108 ✭✭✭RachaelVO


    Just watched the TV3 interview he did with Ursula Halligan. It was on the news this evening, I wished it was longer. But it was insightful for and edited interview

    http://www.tv3.ie/article.php?article_id=59642

    @ Spread: Definitely no campness in this video :D


  • #1425
    sesna
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭sesna


    RachaelVO wrote: »
    Just watched the TV3 interview he did with Ursula Halligan. It was on the news this evening, I wished it was longer. But it was insightful for and edited interview

    http://www.tv3.ie/article.php?article_id=59642

    @ Spread: Definitely no campness in this video :D

    Norris says he is sorry for alot of his comments. Pity he can't just stick by what he really thinks, instead of issuing nonsense apologies.


  • #1426
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Until David Norris admits to being straight, he is going to be hounded over every aspect of his sexuality by the "Christian" right.


  • #1427
    elefant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭elefant


    Slightly OT, but can one vote in the Presidential Election from abroad?


  • #1428
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    Da Shins Kelly wrote: »
    I was fairly sure I was gonna vote for him before, but after this smear campaign, I'm definitely sure. This article by yer wan is just a shallow attempt to portray him as some sort of pervert. It's nothing short of homophobia, and I hope this campaign backfires on these people who won't just admit that they don't like gay people simply because they know they can't justify it.

    Petty much sums up me too. Wasn't too sure who to vote for, but I'd love to see Norris getting in just to piss of the type of people that are getting a bee in their bonnet about that interview.


  • #1429
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    elefant wrote: »
    Slightly OT, but can one vote in the Presidential Election from abroad?

    Like on her back....... kinda riding her piggyback style into the booth?


  • #1430
    Skipmeister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13 ✭Skipmeister


    No way


  • #1431
    sesna
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭sesna


    hmmm wrote: »
    Until David Norris admits to being straight, he is going to be hounded over every aspect of his sexuality by the "Christian" right.

    All Norris's comments and interviews are being properly scrutinised. Claims of homophobia or agendas against Norris no longer work given the position being sought. I wonder how many other skeletons Norris has in the closet.

    It's unfortunate to see him backtracking on all his clearly held views. It seems the man will say anything to get elected.


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  • #1432
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    sesna wrote: »
    It's unfortunate to see him backtracking on all his clearly held views. It seems the man will say anything to get elected.
    The "Christian" right and the Daily mail like simple answers to complex questions, nuance completely defeats them e.g. all abortion is wrong, there should be a defined age of consent, gays will burn in hell etc. The problem for Norris is he has tried to discuss the nuance of questions, which is something no professional politician will do because of the influence of the groups like the "Christian" right and Daily Mail.


  • #1433
    Benny_Cake
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Benny_Cake


    As far as I can see the only thing he has back-tracked over was calling the Pope (Cardinal Ratzinger at the time) a Nazi. He has tried to clarify his other remarks, not that a lot of people will pay any attention it seems.
    sesna wrote: »
    All Norris's comments and interviews are being properly scrutinised. Claims of homophobia or agendas against Norris no longer work given the position being sought. I wonder how many other skeletons Norris has in the closet.

    It's unfortunate to see him backtracking on all his clearly held views. It seems the man will say anything to get elected.


  • #1434
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    But Joseph Ratzinger was a Nazi!


  • #1435
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    sesna wrote: »
    All Norris's comments and interviews are being properly scrutinised.
    Indeed they are and so far by most, they have been found to be clear, concise and summarised into points of clarity.

    sesna wrote: »
    ...Claims of homophobia or agendas against Norris no longer work given the position being sought.
    Say what?
    So if he was not running for the position, claims of homophobia can be applied in that case or can work?
    sesna wrote: »
    ...I wonder how many other skeletons Norris has in the closet.
    We could wonder how many skeletons anyone has in a closet - that don't mean they exist at all or in any large numbers just because your trying to hint there is some
    The public can wonder how many skeletons exist in mine or your closet.
    Just because you throw it out there, don't make it a fact there is some that exists in the first place - but nice try!
    sesna wrote: »
    It's unfortunate to see him backtracking on all his clearly held views.
    Its your opinion that he is backtracking - please show us where exactly he is backtracking?
    I suspect I won't get an accurate answer to that question.
    sesna wrote: »
    ...It seems the man will say anything to get elected.
    Or it seems anyone opposed to him for their own reasons, will say anything to slander him, cast disparaging slights against him and/or try pass opinion off as fact in order to knock a good person down.
    sesna wrote: »
    Norris says he is sorry for alot of his comments. Pity he can't just stick by what he really thinks, instead of issuing nonsense apologies.
    Actually if everyone else reads the article he says sorry for using one word. Not as you try and twist it (again!) that "Norris says he is sorry for a lot of his comments".
    Pity you can't stick to the truth contained within the said item!


  • #1436
    Benny_Cake
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Benny_Cake


    efb wrote: »
    But Joseph Ratzinger was a Nazi!

    I'm no fan of Joseph Ratzinger, but to be fair, I think this was something Norris should have apologised for a while back. He was conscripted into the Hitler Youth in 1941, as the law required at the time. So Norris calling him a Nazi was unfair and something of a Godwin's Law type of situation (I say this as someone who is broadly a supporter of Norris).


  • #1437
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    Either the flaming and digs stop or thread bans will be handed out.

    don't ruin it for the people who actually want to discuss this.

    Final warning for everyone.
    sesna wrote: »
    Your comments on Helen Lucy Burke are really pathetic and heterophobic
    Take some time off.


  • #1438
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    sesna wrote: »
    All Norris's comments and interviews are being properly scrutinised. Claims of homophobia or agendas against Norris no longer work given the position being sought. I wonder how many other skeletons Norris has in the closet.

    How do you know this? Even earlier in this thread it's obvious homophobia plays a part! And are you seriously saying homophobia won't play a part in who votes for him? That's as naive as saying homophobia doesn't exist!

    Speak for yourself, but don't speak for all those against Norris.


  • #1439
    bluecatmorgana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 447 ✭✭bluecatmorgana


    where does he stand on abortion does anyone sensible know?


  • #1440
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    bluecatmorgana wrote: »
    where does he stand on abortion does anyone sensible know?

    Post number 1341 by Phantom_lord:
    What is your view on abortion?

    The issue of abortion is always a sensitive, personal and emotive issue in our
    society. I believe that access to information and education is the true champion of
    reducing the instance of abortion. My hope is that both sides in this difficult moral
    debate will respect each other’s differences.

    Link to his post: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=72661190&postcount=1341

    Edited due to my earlier daftness in posting the wrong section. :D


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  • #1441
    zuroph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,102 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    quoted wrong section biggins.


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