Bilderburg 2011. Got your ticket?

red menace · 09-06-2011 06:21AM

I've got my stone owl ready!

prinz · 09-06-2011 09:24AM

deco nate wrote: »

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but..but prinz,you dont know what they get up to/have a say in!much
like we dont know what the mc canns got up to?!
yet these people have way more power than them.:eek:)

Yeah actually we do. The super-secretive meeting has a website where they publish the topics for conversation, publish the people taking part etc.

Some of last years hot topics... Social Networking, Medical Science, Can We Feed The World.............. Groundbreaking stuff.

http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/meeting_2010.html

It's closed to the press because they want people to speak their mind, not be worried about press headlines (although some of the guests are usually journalists and authors) etc. That's about as sinister as it gets.

deco nate wrote: »

so why do these people meet up?
please explain

What difference is it to you? Am I allowed meet my friends? If the Irish Society of Amateur Stamp-Collectors meets tomorrow night do they have to expain themselves to you? As I said, what are you going to do... ban people from travelling? Ban certain people from meeting? Don't be daft.

deco nate wrote: »

and how in the hell can you get invited/on the guestlist????how?????

Be at the top of your game in whatever sphere it is you work at

cgarrad · 09-06-2011 09:31AM

I really truly wish these people who have proven themselves to be the best in their respective fields did govern the world.

Would be a lot better than a the current system of a popularity contest of teachers, civil servants and even bankrupt builders.... :rolleyes:

Phill Ewinn · 09-06-2011 09:42AM

@Prinz- there's no motive discussed in the link you posted. You merely have an opinion of what their motives are. I do care about what they do, they have tremendous influence in this world and because the discussions are privte there are no reprecussions and no feedback from the general population. A group of people with great influence discussing topics common to all of us without being answerable to any of us.

prinz · 09-06-2011 09:44AM

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

@Prinz- there's no motive discussed in the link you posted. You merely have an opinion of what their motives are. I do care about what they do, they have tremendous influence in this world and because the discussions are privte there are no reprecussions and no feedback from the general population. A group of people with great influence discussing topics common to all of us without being answerable to any of us.

...and? Private discussions between world and business leaders take place on a daily basis?

For all you know Enda Kenny, Barrack Obama and Queen Liz discussed their plans to go to a Take That concert together during their private meetings? Or did you just take their word for it that they discussed the economy and Northern Ireland?

connundrum · 09-06-2011 09:56AM

Fuck sake lads, do we need to go back over the first rule again?!

Phill Ewinn · 09-06-2011 09:58AM

They do. So why bother with builderburg at all if that's what they can do? Builderburg is as I said it was. An unaccountable group for the highly influential. Tell me in your own opinion why they formed said group if communication between these leaders is so easily achieved.

cgarrad · 09-06-2011 10:08AM

Because politicians do not create better societies, building wealth for people does.

Guess who is responsible for that...

prinz · 09-06-2011 10:13AM

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

They do. So why bother with builderburg at all if that's what they can do? Builderburg is as I said it was. An unaccountable group for the highly influential..

Yeah yeah soapboxing. You can't make the argument that they should be accountable. I couldn't give a toss if a couple of CEO's get together and have a chat and play a round of golf as private individuals. It's not my business if the discuss social networking or world peace or world hunger, it's not your business what they discuss.

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

Tell me in your own opinion why they formed said group if communication between these leaders is so easily achieved.

There is no 'group' or secret membership. Different people get invited to the different meetings. You might be invited one year and never invited again. You don't find it odd that there would be journalists taking part in these talks but that nothing remotely controversial has ever come out? Highly influential journalists from Turkey for example.. who no doubt have affected your life greatly by being there.

sensibleken · 09-06-2011 10:13AM

Who's playing at it? Its the same guys who used to do Rock am ring right?

Phill Ewinn · 09-06-2011 10:41AM

prinz wrote: »

Yeah yeah soapboxing. You can't make the argument that they should be accountable. I couldn't give a toss if a couple of CEO's get together and have a chat and play a round of golf as private individuals. It's not my business if the discuss social networking or world peace or world hunger, it's not your business what they discuss.

There is no 'group' or secret membership. Different people get invited to the different meetings. You might be invited one year and never invited again. You don't find it odd that there would be journalists taking part in these talks but that nothing remotely controversial has ever come out? Highly influential journalists from Turkey for example.. who no doubt have affected your life greatly by being there.

You may not care about your own life or future. As I said, I do. This isn't an argument Prinz. These are facts I put before you. Highly influencial journalists attend meetings in Rome and little boys still get buggered in churchs! I don't know why you wouldn't want accountability. Maybe you believe the life you have is utopian and cannot be improved by having groups lik,e this monitored by third party uninvited guests.

prinz · 09-06-2011 10:46AM

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

You may not care about your own life or future. As I said, I do. This isn't an argument Prinz..

You do? Really? I'd argue if you really did stuff like this wouldn't even register because it's so far down the list of things to worry about it's irrelevant. You spend your time worrying about this sort of crap then I'd say you have little enough to worry or care about tbh.

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

I don't know why you wouldn't want accountability. Maybe you believe the life you have is utopian and cannot be improved by having groups lik,e this monitored by third party uninvited guests.

Maybe I want to live in a world where I can meet my friends, colleagues, people in the industry I work in without some randomer thinking I owe them an explanation of everything I say, or demanding they be allowed sit in to monitor what we discuss 24/7.

Phill Ewinn · 09-06-2011 11:11AM

You probably have a third party regulator or commissioner looking at the results of your work. People or groups of people are not saints and can make mistakes. What you are proposing is handing over the keys to this planet and it's people to some vague organisation. It's a ridiculous proposal. I'll stick with my idea, thanks all the same.

orourkeda · 09-06-2011 11:40AM

Given some of the names linked to, and confirmed as, bilderberg members and attendees, the fact that they control , or attempt to control things in the manner suggested may not be as implausible as it sounds.

orourkeda · 09-06-2011 11:43AM

prinz wrote: »

Yeah yeah soapboxing. You can't make the argument that they should be accountable. I couldn't give a toss if a couple of CEO's get together and have a chat and play a round of golf as private individuals. It's not my business if the discuss social networking or world peace or world hunger, it's not your business what they discuss.

There is no 'group' or secret membership. Different people get invited to the different meetings. You might be invited one year and never invited again. You don't find it odd that there would be journalists taking part in these talks but that nothing remotely controversial has ever come out? Highly influential journalists from Turkey for example.. who no doubt have affected your life greatly by being there.

But we dont really know what is discussed at these meetings. It rarely gets leaked.

prinz · 09-06-2011 11:46AM

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

What you are proposing is handing over the keys to this planet and it's people to some vague organisation..

Yes, the keys to the planet. You do know they've been these summits for decades right?

How is it vague when you can get the complete guestlist and list of discussion topics?

You know the Irish Council of State meetings are closed to the public too?
Shouldn't that be of more immediate interest? Or is it just that the Bilderberg is more exotic..

orourkeda · 09-06-2011 11:50AM

There are at least two high profile irish members that i'm aware of (maybe many more besides). These are Peter Sutherland and your man gleeson that was in charge of AIB.

I dont know much of this bilderberg group. But from the little I do know of these two characters they do seem quite high powered and influential. Surely a group of high powered and influential group of international "elites" are not meeting up for the craic. I certainly don;t know what they get up to but can anyone shed any light on what the get up.

prinz · 09-06-2011 12:00PM

orourkeda wrote: »

I certainly don;t know what they get up to but can anyone shed any light on what the get up.

It's the only time they feel comfortable shedding their human shells and revealing their true reptilian nature.

orourkeda · 09-06-2011 12:05PM

prinz wrote: »

It's the only time they feel comfortable shedding their human shells and revealing their true reptilian nature.

Have you an answer to my question. I cant speak for anyone else here but I'm not very knowledgable on this particular subject and would like as much information as possible before making a judgement on the relative merits of the topic being discussed. Going "David Icke" doesn't help answer anyones questions.

prinz · 09-06-2011 12:07PM

orourkeda wrote: »

Have you an answer to my question. I cant speak for anyone else here but I'm not very knowledgable on this particular subject and would like as much information as possible before making a judgement on the relative merits of the topic being discussed. Going "David Icke" doesn't help answer anyones questions.

Last years discussion topics are listed on the website I linked to earlier.

orourkeda · 09-06-2011 12:20PM

prinz wrote: »

Last years discussion topics are listed on the website I linked to earlier.

Look what's happened in Pakistan since June last year? Wasn't this a topic up for discussion at last years meeting. We've had the high profile death of Bin Laden and what can only be described as a stand off than ensued. Just an example and I'm not subscribing to any particular viewpoint here, just raising what could be viewed as concerns. Not an accusation either. Just saying you never knwo what answer people will come up with when they put 2 and 2 togther.

c_man · 09-06-2011 12:34PM

Bilderburg 2011. Got your ticket?

Already heading to Electric Picnic. Don't have the cash for this as well

Einhard · 09-06-2011 02:36PM

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

@Prinz- there's no motive discussed in the link you posted. You merely have an opinion of what their motives are. I do care about what they do, they have tremendous influence in this world and because the discussions are privte there are no reprecussions and no feedback from the general population. A group of people with great influence discussing topics common to all of us without being answerable to any of us.

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

They do. So why bother with builderburg at all if that's what they can do? Builderburg is as I said it was. An unaccountable group for the highly influential. Tell me in your own opinion why they formed said group if communication between these leaders is so easily achieved.

Just want to get you straight on this Phil, but are you suggesting that the rich and powerful should not have the same rights to privacy, free association, and freedom of speech as the rest of us?

Einhard · 09-06-2011 02:39PM

orourkeda wrote: »

Look what's happened in Pakistan since June last year? Wasn't this a topic up for discussion at last years meeting. We've had the high profile death of Bin Laden and what can only be described as a stand off than ensued. Just an example and I'm not subscribing to any particular viewpoint here, just raising what could be viewed as concerns. Not an accusation either. Just saying you never knwo what answer people will come up with when they put 2 and 2 togther.

I chatted about Osama and Pakistan last year with my mates in the pub....

Maybe he was captured because of that!

Seriously, are you suggesting that the Americans only decided to take him out because the Bildergergers gave them the go ahead?

squod · 09-06-2011 03:35PM

"The Bilderbergs are probably the most influential global network of all time.
Bilderberg is where ideas are shared and a transatlantic, capitalist consensus view of the world comes together.

"You do get the impression that what is happening is a shaping of ideas and the shaping of a way forward does take place," Kakabadse said.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/43325286

"It's a meeting. It's not an organization. It's not an official summit," he told CNBC.com. "It's basically a meeting of friends. "It may have taken you six months hard consulting to get into somebody's diary. Having gone to a Bilderberg meeting, it takes two minutes on the phone."

Jaysus' all very harmless. Just the most important and influencial people in the world shaping the way forward for us all behind closed doors in an unaccountable and undemocratic fashion.

Nothing to see here!

prinz · 09-06-2011 10:31PM

squod wrote: »

Jaysus' all very harmless. Just the most important and influencial people in the world shaping the way forward for us all behind closed doors in an unaccountable and undemocratic fashion.

How hard is it to comprehend that people like business leaders, authors, journalists, scientists and even politicians or monarchs acting outside of their professional capacities, can have private conversations? What next, let's bug their houses and phones?

seanyroche · 09-06-2011 10:59PM

This is obviously true, do you think that 150 of the most powerful people in the world are meeting in secret to playtiddlywinks?

no good comes from darkness.

wake everyone you can to the truth.

latest reports are posted live on prisonplanet.com i have emailed 2 of our largest papers and have had no reply, they seem unable to print real news.

pity i might buy the paper more offten if they printed truth.

on another note how do some of the people on here make a joke of alex jones? he gives the news before it happens. check out the videos from years ago on his youtube channel and see if this stuff becomes true. he references everything he reports, so look up the articals for yourself.

prinz · 09-06-2011 11:17PM

seanyroche wrote: »

This is obviously true, do you think that 150 of the most powerful people in the world are meeting in secret to playtiddlywinks?

Yes, a very well kept secret. It's not like there's a thread about in on boards...oh wait...

up for anything · 09-06-2011 11:24PM

orourkeda wrote: »

Not an accusation either.

Yeah, yeah. One day we'll all be taking and someone will say, "Whatever happened to that poster, orourkeda?" We'll take a look back and see that this non-accusation was amongst your last posts ever on boards. Give my regards to the bottom of the Liffey.

deco nate · 09-06-2011 11:52PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-CrNlilZho

Bilderburg 2011. Got your ticket?

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