Would you involve the guards?

Witchie · 08-06-2011 03:04PM #1

A few months ago my son got his phone stolen from his gym bag at school and the school didnt find out who did it. I had to go buy him a new one and while was in Carphone Warehouse, was telling the guy who works in there and is a mate about what had happened.

He just sent me a message on FB a few mins ago saying that a guy came in to get the phone fixed (maybe unblocked, not sure) and he copped it was my sons and refused to give it back to him so we wil now have a nice spare android phone in the house for back up.

Am wondering though should I get the guards involved as am sure there is CCTV in the shop and also maybe they have his name from booking phone in to get fixed and take it further.

It really bugs the hell outta me that little scrotes could go through another pupils stuff and steal from them and as am an unemployed single mum it killed me having to buy him another phone. I would shop my own sons to guards if they did something like this as its despicable behaviour.

chin_grin · 08-06-2011 03:05PM

Let's see. An item was stolen and you think you've found the culprit. Ah yeah go on ahead.

Witchie · 08-06-2011 03:06PM

The wee fecker took another lads phone that day so it wasnt a once off either.

Also it had been his christmas present and as he is only 13 and in first year it really upset him.

old hippy · 08-06-2011 03:07PM

Why bring a mobile to school, anyway?

Cocaine · 08-06-2011 03:07PM

What if it wasn't his phone, and the carephone guy has basically stole it now?

hondasam · 08-06-2011 03:08PM

It's probably not the person who stole it who brought it to the shop.

wild_cat · 08-06-2011 03:08PM

Witchie wrote: »

A few months ago my son got his phone stolen from his gym bag at school and the school didnt find out who did it. I had to go buy him a new one and while was in Carphone Warehouse, was telling the guy who works in there and is a mate about what had happened.

He just sent me a message on FB a few mins ago saying that a guy came in to get the phone fixed (maybe unblocked, not sure) and he copped it was my sons and refused to give it back to him so we wil now have a nice spare android phone in the house for back up.

Am wondering though should I get the guards involved as am sure there is CCTV in the shop and also maybe they have his name from booking phone in to get fixed and take it further.

It really bugs the hell outta me that little scrotes could go through another pupils stuff and steal from them and as am an unemployed single mum it killed me having to buy him another phone. I would shop my own sons to guards if they did something like this as its despicable behaviour.

If his school was anything like mine they'd be delighted to know who's at it!! I'd get in contact with the guards. Nothing worse than people who steal things in school. Especially belong to those who know the worth of money!!

prinz · 08-06-2011 03:08PM

Witchie wrote: »

It really bugs the hell outta me that little scrotes could go through another pupils stuff and steal from them and as am an unemployed single mum it killed me having to buy him another phone..

Maybe you should get a cheaper phone next time.

Yer man was in possession of stolen property. Did you report it when it was stolen originally? Do you know who the guy is who brought it into the shop? Is he a student at son's school? Yadda, yadda, yadda.

starviewadams · 08-06-2011 03:09PM

Go down to the Garda Station and explain the situation to them I spose,the kid who took the phone will probably end up getting a caution at the very most though,and more likely will just get a bit of a telling off.

hondasam · 08-06-2011 03:09PM

why wait this long to unblock it ?

Witchie · 08-06-2011 03:09PM

Most kids bring phones to school and as they get a bus home but sometimes I collect them, its handy for him to have it. He keeps it off during the day unless he needs to contact me and switches it on on his way down to the bus.

Am sure it is, coz I bought the phone in there and they would have the details logged under my name, including serial number.

hondasam · 08-06-2011 03:10PM

starviewadams wrote: »

Go down to the Garda Station and explain the situation to them I spose,the kid who took the phone will probably end up getting a caution at the very most though,and more likely will just get a bit of a telling off.

A caution for what, where is the proof he stole it?

Abi · 08-06-2011 03:11PM

Witchie wrote: »

A few months ago my son got his phone stolen from his gym bag at school and the school didnt find out who did it. I had to go buy him a new one and while was in Carphone Warehouse, was telling the guy who works in there and is a mate about what had happened.

He just sent me a message on FB a few mins ago saying that a guy came in to get the phone fixed (maybe unblocked, not sure) and he copped it was my sons and refused to give it back to him so we wil now have a nice spare android phone in the house for back up.

Am wondering though should I get the guards involved as am sure there is CCTV in the shop and also maybe they have his name from booking phone in to get fixed and take it further.

It really bugs the hell outta me that little scrotes could go through another pupils stuff and steal from them and as am an unemployed single mum it killed me having to buy him another phone. I would shop my own sons to guards if they did something like this as its despicable behaviour.

If there is solid evidence that it is your sons, then yes I would involve the gardai. The chances are that the phone could have been sold onto that boy, but it's a step closer.

My brother was mugged in town a couple of years ago, if he had any inkling who the scumbag was he would have done something about it. You have a chance to. I wouldn't hesitate.

Oink · 08-06-2011 03:12PM

Of course you should. Why would you not report a thief?

Unless you have already sorted him out yourself, and he is now cooking slowly in a red wine jus. In which case you shouldn't call the guards.

Witchie · 08-06-2011 03:14PM

hondasam wrote: »

It's probably not the person who stole it who brought it to the shop.

Yeah was thinking that but they still have stolen property.

wild_cat wrote: »

If his school was anything like mine they'd be delighted to know who's at it!! I'd get in contact with the guards. Nothing worse than people who steal things in school. Especially belong to those who know the worth of money!!

Was thinking would inform the school on him too

prinz wrote: »

Maybe you should get a cheaper phone next time.

Yer man was in possession of stolen property. Did you report it when it was stolen originally? Do you know who the guy is who brought it into the shop? Is he a student at son's school? Yadda, yadda, yadda.

In fairness it wasnt that expensive, coz for this very reason I refuse to spend more than €100 on his phones coz of breakage, losing and now being stolen but its still €100 I dont really have.

I only got a brief message on FB coz my mate is working at the moment but will call into him later and get the full details.

starviewadams wrote: »

Go down to the Garda Station and explain the situation to them I spose,the kid who took the phone will probably end up getting a caution at the very most though,and more likely will just get a bit of a telling off.

Think I will, am just so angry at the wee fecker.

hondasam wrote: »

why wait this long to unblock it ?

Maybe waiting in the hope that details of it would be gone and not thinking that the guy in the shop would remember me telling him what happened!

120_Minutes · 08-06-2011 03:14PM

hondasam wrote: »

A caution for what, where is the proof he stole it?

theres no proof he stole it, but theres proof of possession of stolen goods, as explained below.

Witchie wrote: »

Am sure it is, coz I bought the phone in there and they would have the details logged under my name, including serial number.

prinz · 08-06-2011 03:14PM

hondasam wrote: »

A caution for what, where is the proof he stole it?

Possession of stolen property. S.18 Criminal Justice (Theft and Fraud Offences) Act, 2001.

bryaner · 08-06-2011 03:14PM

hondasam wrote: »

A caution for what, where is the proof he stole it?

Handling stolen goods.

08-06-2011 03:14PM

hondasam wrote: »

A caution for what, where is the proof he stole it?

Handling stolen property

......... great minds and all that Bryaner

admiralofthefleet · 08-06-2011 03:14PM

old hippy wrote: »

Why bring a mobile to school, anyway?

in case he needs to contact his parents?

bryaner · 08-06-2011 03:15PM

3rd damm.

Witchie · 08-06-2011 03:15PM

Only thing holding me back is that its a small town and I could end up getting more grief than I need for a sake of €100 phone but its the principle more than anything that gets my goat.

seamus · 08-06-2011 03:16PM

Uh, before you get the Gardai involved, I would verify that it is actually your son's phone. Did he scratch his initials into it or something? If you ring the Gardai and they find out that they've confiscated an innocent kid's phone, your mate could end up being cautioned and/or fired.

Dravokivich · 08-06-2011 03:16PM

Well of course the school wouldn't get involved, why would they? They have no liability over any students possesions.

How does the guy in CPW know it was your son's phone? Did he have a very exclusive model?

Why are you only now looking to get the Gardaí involved when all you've got is someone with a similar model phone? Why were the Gardaí not contacted and the theft reported when the phone was actually stolen?

bryaner · 08-06-2011 03:17PM

RoverJames wrote: »

Handling stolen property

......... great minds and all that Bryaner

Lol are we gone a bit slow.:(

TheZohanS · 08-06-2011 03:18PM

Witchie wrote: »

Would you involve the guards?

Are you serious?

If I was in your position I'd have already called them, unless you have plenty of money to buy another phone if his new one goes missing?

The guy that brought in the phone to the phone store may not have stolen it, but he won't be long saying who he bought it off when the Gardai mention the fact that he handled stolen goods, which is a crime.

Witchie · 08-06-2011 03:18PM

Dont worry I wont do anything til I go in there and check it out. If he was trying to get it unblocked then my son has the pin and would be able to prove it is his very easily but as I said all phones sold have the serial number logged as far as I am aware coz I remember they are always able to ask me which phone I am referring to when I go in there.

Abi · 08-06-2011 03:18PM

Witchie wrote: »

Only thing holding me back is that its a small town and I could end up getting more grief than I need for a sake of €100 phone but its the principle more than anything that gets my goat.

If its a small town, it will get around fairly quickly who is a thief also. I wouldn't let it go anyway.

seamus · 08-06-2011 03:18PM

Witchie wrote: »

Only thing holding me back is that its a small town and I could end up getting more grief than I need for a sake of €100 phone but its the principle more than anything that gets my goat.

Fnck that. Why protect a scrote? Anyone who gives you grief for getting a thief arrested isn't worth your attention anyway.

Techno_Toaster · 08-06-2011 03:19PM

seamus wrote: »

Uh, before you get the Gardai involved, I would verify that it is actually your son's phone. Did he scratch his initials into it or something? If you ring the Gardai and they find out that they've confiscated an innocent kid's phone, your mate could end up being cautioned and/or fired.

Dravokivich wrote: »

How does the guy in CPW know it was your son's phone? Did he have a very exclusive model?

Why are you only now looking to get the Gardaí involved when all you've got is someone with a similar model phone? Why were the Gardaí not contacted and the theft reported when the phone was actually stolen?

Wow you guys are mega slow!!! Did you not read other posters responses. Every phone has a serial number thats proof enough.

hondasam · 08-06-2011 03:21PM

120_Minutes wrote: »

theres no proof he stole it, but theres proof of possession of stolen goods, as explained below.

prinz wrote: »

Possession of stolen property. S.18 Criminal Justice (Theft and Fraud Offences) Act, 2001.

bryaner wrote: »

Handling stolen goods.

RoverJames wrote: »

Handling stolen property

......... great minds and all that Bryaner

my reply was in relation to a caution for the kid who stole it not who is in possession of it.

op did not say a kid brought it to the shop.

Would you involve the guards?

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