"3 in 4 professionals may leave the country"

Celly Smunt · 08-06-2011 01:09PM

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

Well I do. And most of them were not in any way instrumental in getting us into the current mess. The generalisation just annoys me - just because you work in a bank it doesn't mean you're responsible for the country's downfall etc.

ah but you are

srsly78 · 08-06-2011 01:09PM

TheZohan wrote: »

The downside to that is the state pays for educating these professionals and another country reaps the benefit of that education. We recoup the cost of their education through taxes and if they emigrate we lose out.

I got BTEA for 4 years, then emigrated. But I'm an idiot and came back

Up de Barrs · 08-06-2011 01:12PM

People who are being hammered by high taxes, social charge, PRSI, VHI (and soon household charge and water tax) see everyone from bankers to people playing the welfare system getting the benefit of their hard work. No wonder so many people are bailing out.

Teyla Emmagan · 08-06-2011 01:13PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

ah but you are

Ah but that's rubbish. Most people working in banks are way too far down the line from the decision making structure. They do what they're told, like anyone else.

Anyway..

Celly Smunt · 08-06-2011 01:13PM

srsly78 wrote: »

I got BTEA for 4 years, then emigrated. But I'm an idiot and came back

BTEA for 4 years!?

D1stant · 08-06-2011 01:14PM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Warmer weather would cover up all the sweating they have been doing for cooking the books.

Indeed. But if we forced ALL the accountants to leave we would probably take in more tax

Almaviva · 08-06-2011 01:14PM

jon1981 wrote: »

:mad:seriously do we need this crap published?

Is it not your own post that is 'crap' as you say. The IT article doesnt say 3 in 4 may leave the country. They are your words. IT says 3 in 4 would 'consider' leaving. Not the same thing at all. Not everyone considering it will leave.If one in 10 of those considering it leave, then that would be 1 in 13. I have considered doing a lot of things that have never actually done.
Maybe more striking is why are 1 in 4 people not considering leaving ???

stovelid · 08-06-2011 01:16PM

Let's not be too hasty.

Is an emigratory flood of solicitors, recruitment consultants; apartment balcony designers, wedding designers and estate agents such a bad thing?

squod · 08-06-2011 01:21PM

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

Ah but that's rubbish. Most people working in banks are way too far down the line from the decision making structure. They do what they're told, like anyone else.

Anyway..

Yeah, there's no-one to blame really. Everyone was just following orders.:rolleyes:

SEPT 23 1989 · 08-06-2011 01:23PM

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

Ah but that's rubbish. Most people working in banks are way too far down the line from the decision making structure. They do what they're told, like anyone else.

Anyway..

From my experience the arrogance runs from top to bottom

Dudess · 08-06-2011 01:23PM

Oh no squod, there are people to blame - where did anyone say there aren't? - just not, you know, 21-year-old cashiers doing a service many require and would be whingeing about if it didn't exist.

Dudess · 08-06-2011 01:26PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

From my experience the arrogance runs from top to bottom

Your "experience" isn't worth sh1t. And no doubt a lie.

Teyla Emmagan · 08-06-2011 01:27PM

Dudess wrote: »

Oh no, there are people to blame - where did anyone say there aren't? - just not, you know, 21-year-old cashiers doing a service many require and would be whingeing about if it didn't exist.

Exactly. For the love of God like. Think of all the people who work in a bank - HR, marketing, IT, mail room, branch staff, receptionists. Do you actually believe these people have any input into the bank's strategic decision making process??! They do in their eye. And most of them are certainly not 'arrogant' either SEPT 23 1989, and they certainly don't deserve to be blaimed for the mess we're in.

Celly Smunt · 08-06-2011 01:29PM

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

Exactly. For the love of God like. Think of all the people who work in a bank - HR, marketing, IT, mail room, branch staff, receptionists. Do you actually believe these people have any input into the bank's strategic decision making process??! They do in their eye. And most of them are certainly not 'arrogant' either SEPT 23 1989, and they certainly don't deserve to be blaimed for the mess we're in.

but they work in a bank and all

SEPT 23 1989 · 08-06-2011 01:32PM

Dudess wrote: »

Your "experience" isn't worth sh1t. And no doubt a lie.

Why is my experience worth nothing?

Dudess · 08-06-2011 01:35PM

I'm not a violent person, but if some KUNT told me to my face I'm somehow responsible for this economic mess because I did temping admin work in a bank in my early 20s, I'd happily slap them. Lol too at the experts who know about banking staff even though they never worked there. Oh and they were/are happy to use the service. I know some folks get an orgasm out of blaming people who aren't to blame, but... TRY to use critical thinking - it'll stand to you.

Celly Smunt · 08-06-2011 01:36PM

Dudess wrote: »

I'm not a violent person, but if some KUNT told me to my face I'm somehow responsible for this economic mess because I did temping admin work in a bank in my early 20s, I'd happily slap them. Lol too at the experts who know about banking staff even though they never worked there. Oh and they were/are happy to use the service. I know some folks get an orgasm out of blaming people who aren't to blame, but... TRY to use critical thinking - it'll stand to you.

i criticise people who work at banks :P

Dudess · 08-06-2011 01:36PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Why is my experience worth nothing?

Because it's a blatant lie.

Chuck Stone · 08-06-2011 01:38PM

stovelid wrote: »

Let's not be too hasty.

Is an emigratory flood of solicitors, recruitment consultants; apartment balcony designers, wedding designers and estate agents such a bad thing?

Does this now mean we should reduce the number of 3rd level degrees, tutors and lecturers.

Even if we should - will it happen - fcuk no.

Teyla Emmagan · 08-06-2011 01:38PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

i criticise people who work at banks :P

Primarily it appears to be annoying!!

NTMK · 08-06-2011 01:41PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

From my experience the arrogance runs from top to bottom

generalise much??:rolleyes:

dpe · 08-06-2011 01:41PM

The key word in the article is "consider". Not, "would leave", but would "consider leaving". So the article is essentially worthless. Even in good times the majority of people would "consider" leaving. They'd also "consider" winning the lotto and how much fun it would be to kick their boss in the nuts. It doesn't have anything to do with reality.

Bandana boy · 08-06-2011 01:42PM

I am suprised the number is not higher than 3 in 4 !!

It is phrased 3 out of 4 would leave if prospects were bad -I am sure we would have had the same response in the good times

I an not planning on going but if things got so bad I could not find work I would go

srsly78 · 08-06-2011 01:47PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

BTEA for 4 years!?

Yep, 4 years is usually how long an hons degree takes. Also I got rent allowance for 4 years, and dole over the summers. Oh and grant as well (only for my last year tho, because I used up grant during previous college attempt). Any mature student (that didn't already have a degree) could have availed of this. They have toned it down a lot since I got it tho, it's harder to qualify now but BTEA still exists.

Celly Smunt · 08-06-2011 01:49PM

srsly78 wrote: »

Yep, 4 years is usually how long an hons degree takes. Also I got rent allowance for 4 years, and dole over the summers. Oh and grant as well (only for my last year tho, because I used up grant during previous college attempt). Any mature student (that didn't already have a degree) could have availed of this. They have toned it down a lot since I got it tho, it's harder to qualify now but BTEA still exists.

i need to get me a piece of this

srsly78 · 08-06-2011 01:56PM

Go for it. It's completely nuts, I had more income when I was in college than my mates that worked full time. In total it works out to something like e18,000 of benefits per year (figure was correct when I availed from 2003-2007, may be less nowadays).

Phill Ewinn · 08-06-2011 02:01PM

I'm banking on a national cock shortage. Hope more blokes fvck off. More chances of me getting some.

Saila · 08-06-2011 02:06PM

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

I'm banking on a national cock shortage. Hope more blokes fvck off. More chances of me getting some.

and if so I know where they went

australia!

Phill Ewinn · 08-06-2011 02:24PM

They said this during the boom aswell. A brian-drain would ruin our economy. Blah, blah, blah! There's still loads of blokes called Brian around here.

Dangerous Man · 08-06-2011 02:31PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

Her command of English is painful,can we not get rid of her first?

Stop! She might come over here...:D

"3 in 4 professionals may leave the country"

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