Screaming kids ... "That's just the way they are I'm afraid!"

mathie · 07-06-2011 12:03PM #1

Out for lunch the other day and this 3-year old kid beside us was screaming non-stop at the top of his voice about something or other that he wanted.
The parents seemed oblivious.

So after a good ten minutes of this and conciously not looking over I look over and the mother must have been waiting for a reaction as she meets my eyes and goes "That's just the way they are I'm afraid!"

So are all kids little terrors or is this just bad parenting at work?

orourkeda · 07-06-2011 12:04PM

I hate the little c*nts

Matthew23 · 07-06-2011 12:05PM

well i think alot of people dont know that it is harder to get people to know what your saying if you cant speak the langage , i think if we couldnt speak the langage of everyone else we would scream like the babies too! :eek:

CiaranC · 07-06-2011 12:06PM

I dont mind kids as long as I dont have to look at them, hear them, or espeicially - hear about them.

hondasam · 07-06-2011 12:08PM

They should be seen and not heard.

seriously I blame the parents.

chin_grin · 07-06-2011 12:08PM

Why is it that you need a dog license but any idiot that shoots his muck in to some chung wans flossy ends up having a litter of these dough headed "upstanding members of society" because they don't understand cause and effect?

So it's both I think. The child for being a child and the parent for being thrust in to a position that neither wanted and so blaming everything else but themselves and letting TV raise their child while they watch Saw movies. F*ckin' society.

stargazer 68 · 07-06-2011 12:12PM

A mate of mine has a little boy (hes around 6 I think) and when there are events etc the common phrase is 'I hope she doesnt bring ****'. She has even stopped being invited to things because he is such a brat.

She is a lone parent and doesnt want to be the bad guy all the time with him but hes turning into an utter monster.

Guill · 07-06-2011 12:12PM

mathie wrote: »

Out for lunch the other day and this 3-year old kid beside us was screaming non-stop at the top of his voice about something or other that he wanted.
The parents seemed oblivious.

So after a good ten minutes of this and conciously not looking over I look over and the mother must have been waiting for a reaction as she meets my eyes and goes "That's just the way they are I'm afraid!"

So are all kids little terrors or is this just bad parenting at work?

So the child was screaming looking for something and the parents ignored him?

What would you do OP?
Give the child what it wanted and teach him that screaming gets him his way?
Well done parents for sticking to their guns, especiaslly in a situation where a stuck up tit is eyeing and sighing at you.

Wake up OP.

Logical Fallacy · 07-06-2011 12:13PM

mathie wrote: »

Out for lunch the other day and this 3-year old kid beside us was screaming non-stop at the top of his voice about something or other that he wanted.
The parents seemed oblivious.

So after a good ten minutes of this and conciously not looking over I look over and the mother must have been waiting for a reaction as she meets my eyes and goes "That's just the way they are I'm afraid!"

So are all kids little terrors or is this just bad parenting at work?

I'm sure this will be met with anger by parents but it's bad parenting.

Neither myself or my siblings screamed in public when we were younger...my brothers children are incredibly well behaved when out and about (ages range from 2 to 4 years old), my sister kid is incredible well behaved when out and about.

All my friends kids bar one are very well behaved when out and about, no kicking or screaming at all either.

That is not the way kids are, it's the way the woman and her lazy ****ing husband are.

The King of Moo · 07-06-2011 12:14PM

At three years old, it's probably the parents' fault.
If the kid is just a baby, then yeah, sometimes they cry and you just can't stop them, though of course the parents should at least try to stop them, unlike the ones you encountered.
But by three the child should be disciplined for acting up like that, so the parents should tell them to stop, and if they can't manage that they should take the kid outside out of respect for others.
They've probably already spoiled the child, which is why it's crying for something it wants.

biko · 07-06-2011 12:15PM

It's the old nature versus nurture question.
Imo, most are to blame on bad parenting skills (but hey, it's not like you get a handbook with all the answers) but a minority are just little b***rds.
Then of course they can have some illness or something.

Guill · 07-06-2011 12:15PM

Kids are random Arseholes, some need more work than others.

The King of Moo · 07-06-2011 12:16PM

Guill wrote: »

So the child was screaming looking for something and the parents ignored him?

What would you do OP?
Give the child what it wanted and teach him that screaming gets him his way?
Well done parents for sticking to their guns, especiaslly in a situation where a stuck up tit is eyeing and sighing at you.

Wake up OP.

But this was in a public place, presumably a restaurant or café, where the kid was bothering other people. I know they can't give in to the kid but they could tell it to stop messing pretty sternly and/or take it outside till it stopped crying out of courtesy to the people around them.

Ghandee · 07-06-2011 12:18PM

Kids are just that, kids!

Imo, its to do with their upbringing and what they learn as acceptable behaviour from their parents and older siblings!

At the end of the day though, we were all kids at some point in our lives, and I'm sure nie of us were the righteous, polite, articulate people we like to think we are now when we were young ourselves!

Let them scream, let them throw wobblers! For Christ sake they are KIDS! They have the rest of their lives to suffer with jobs, bills, relationship issues, self development etc!

Wish to fcuk I was one again!

El Weirdo · 07-06-2011 12:18PM

Guill wrote: »

So the child was screaming looking for something and the parents ignored him?

What would you do OP?
Give the child what it wanted and teach him that screaming gets him his way?
Well done parents for sticking to their guns, especiaslly in a situation where a stuck up tit is eyeing and sighing at you.

Wake up OP.

The parents should have brought the kid away from where other people were trying to enjoy their meal.

That would be the decent thing to do.

wes · 07-06-2011 12:18PM

Sometime even normally well behaved kids will throw a tantrum, but I would at least expect the parents to try and stop the kid screaming.

TheZohanS · 07-06-2011 12:18PM

Guill wrote: »

So the child was screaming looking for something and the parents ignored him?

What would you do OP?
Give the child what it wanted and teach him that screaming gets him his way?
Well done parents for sticking to their guns, especiaslly in a situation where a stuck up tit is eyeing and sighing at you.

Wake up OP.

Fùck that. Why the hell should other people have to suffer because these parents are teaching their spoilt brat a lesson?

Let them bring their kid outside 'til it shuts up. If they want a place where they can do their own thing and shout as much as they want let them hire their own function room. If an adult shouted or screamed they'd be turfed out.

mathie · 07-06-2011 12:19PM

Guill wrote: »

So the child was screaming looking for something and the parents ignored him?

What would you do OP?
Give the child what it wanted and teach him that screaming gets him his way?

I think you've missed the point.

The discipline was obviously missing. This child has most likely not been taught the 'naughty step' or 'naughty corner'. He's just been allowed scream and scream and scream.

Guill wrote: »

stuck up tit is eyeing and sighing at you

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
I was eyeing (looked once in ten minutes) and sighing was I?

Elle Collins · 07-06-2011 12:19PM

I walk out of restaurants in situations like this, and I always make sure to let the staff and parents know why. Selfish scum-bucket parents like this turn my guts. :mad:

PCPhoto · 07-06-2011 12:21PM

B0llox .... kids will throw a temper tantrum if they want something - but that can be stopped by proper parenting.

parents need to be allowed to *discipline(light smack on the back of the legs) their kids in public without some joe bloggs calling child services and some busybody telling them they are raising their child the incorrect way.

we live in a nanny state where kids are mollycoddled !!

*=important to make a distinguish between discipline and physical/mental abuse.

07-06-2011 12:23PM

It probably is nature vs nurture, and some is parenting and some is just little terrors! And I'm sure it must be hard for the parents to deal with the kid. But I think they probably should have brought him outside or home... I don't mean go home every time the child has a fit but once or twice to show "no messing or else" might do the trick...

neilthefunkeone · 07-06-2011 12:24PM

Id go mental... I understand kids are going to be kids but if they are disrupting others they need to be removed or sorted out..

Don't get me started on parents that let their little mistakes run around shops on their own..

suicide_circus · 07-06-2011 12:25PM

Guill wrote: »

So the child was screaming looking for something and the parents ignored him?

What would you do OP?
Give the child what it wanted and teach him that screaming gets him his way?
Well done parents for sticking to their guns, especiaslly in a situation where a stuck up tit is eyeing and sighing at you.

Wake up OP.

So instead they teach the child that it is acceptable to scream and shout in a restaurant?
Umm, maybe they could actually do their fycking job as parents, discipline their child and tell it to STFU? And if it dosnt stop bring it home instead of being ignorant cnuts and inflicting their brats tantrum on other people?

PCPhoto · 07-06-2011 12:26PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

But this was in a public place, presumably a restaurant or café, where the kid was bothering other people. I know they can't give in to the kid but they could tell it to stop messing pretty sternly and/or take it outside till it stopped crying out of courtesy to the people around them.

Ha !! and you'd probably have the parents suing because they are discriminated against because they have kids !!

(its simply bad parenting IMO - they want to allow the kid to scream and get ignored so the kid thinks screaming is ineffective, which is their choice but in a public place they need to think about other people whom it effects)

sesna · 07-06-2011 12:26PM

I had to endure an 8 hour over night flight two weeks ago with a little cnut beside me (around 3) screaming with the most hideous shrill for a good portion of it. Why the fluck do parents put their kids in these situations when they cant control them?

melb · 07-06-2011 12:26PM

This wasn't a baby-it was a child.

If a baby is crying most parents I see will take them outside until they stop.

But they leave a kid there and ignore them to teach them a lesson..

The only lesson that kid is learning is that it is OK to cause a scene in public, that there will not be any consequences and that it doeesn't matter that there are other people there as it is non of their business.

Lanaier · 07-06-2011 12:28PM

Guill wrote: »

So the child was screaming looking for something and the parents ignored him?

What would you do OP?
Give the child what it wanted and teach him that screaming gets him his way?
Well done parents for sticking to their guns, especiaslly in a situation where a stuck up tit is eyeing and sighing at you.

Wake up OP.

Saying "That's just the way they are I'm afraid!" is not sticking to your guns, it's not dealing with it.

Besides, I'm sure there is more to raising a kid than teaching them how to behave.
Kids having a tendency to scream and shout can often be attributed to diet or circumstances at home.

Many of these things are well within the control of any parent in a country like Ireland in 2011.

Finally, yes -if your child is causing a scene at a public dining are where people are paying for food- it's absolutely your responsibility to sort it out or at least try.

hondasam · 07-06-2011 12:32PM

sesna wrote: »

I had to endure an 8 hour over night flight two weeks ago with a little cnut beside me (around 3) screaming with the most hideous shrill for a good portion of it. Why the fluck do parents put their kids in these situations when they cant control them?

Lets be fair here they could not leave the child in the airport.
flying is scary for little kids. This would be annoying but their is nothing parents can do in these circumstances.

Dangerous Man · 07-06-2011 12:32PM

There is a school of thought in parenting that recommends simply ignoring children when they act out in the way described. It's a behaviourist approach that eventually causes the child to stop misbheaving because it eventually realizes that it consistently doesn't get its own way. There's something to be said for it but I think in public situations where a child's tantrum is affecting others - a parent needs to act decisively to silence the child.

carlybabe1 · 07-06-2011 12:33PM

Guill wrote: »

So the child was screaming looking for something and the parents ignored him?

What would you do OP?
Give the child what it wanted and teach him that screaming gets him his way?
Well done parents for sticking to their guns, especiaslly in a situation where a stuck up tit is eyeing and sighing at you.

Wake up OP.

Yeah great parenting, ignore the problem instead of laying down boundry rules, or teaching your child consequences, and let everybody else suffer. Its lazy parenting to ingnore a situation and hope the child just "grows out of it". If it was my child they would be warned that if the behaviour continued there would be a consequence, and warned once only. Theres plenty of parenting books out there to assist with these kinds of tantrums.

PCPhoto · 07-06-2011 12:33PM

sesna wrote: »

I had to endure an 8 hour over night flight two weeks ago with a little cnut beside me (around 3) screaming with the most hideous shrill for a good portion of it. Why the fluck do parents put their kids in these situations when they cant control them?

I could understand a child screaming at take off and landing (due to ears popping and not knowing what is actually going on) ... but during the main part of the flight .... only think I can think of is that the child was bored and wanted attention....or had an injury/sunburn and it was hurting them.

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