David Norris for President....would you vote for him?

sesna · 03-06-2011 05:13PM

Nodin wrote: »

I never mentioned any religion. Try again.

As I stated - Imagining for the sake of argument that that was true, and given the revelations of the Ferns and Murphy report, Ryan commission, would it not be safer to say that was far more symbolic of the 'Old Ireland' than anything else?

Why are you talking about child abusers and the Ryan commision. We are talking about David Norris.

Quo Vadis · 03-06-2011 05:14PM

Nodin wrote: »

I never mentioned any religion. Try again.

As I stated - Imagining for the sake of argument that that was true, and given the revelations of the Ferns and Murphy report, Ryan commission, would it not be safer to say that was far more symbolic of the 'Old Ireland' than anything else?

So what makes Norris different ?

losthorizon · 03-06-2011 05:15PM

It depends on who is running but he would be on my list of people to vote for. It looks like there will be a good choice. I hope he gets nominated. A disgrace if he doesnt.

Nodin · 03-06-2011 05:15PM

Quo Vadis wrote: »

So what makes Norris different ?

Do you have some problem in answering the question? You've failed to do so twice now. Do please explain.

Quo Vadis · 03-06-2011 05:17PM

Nodin wrote: »

Do you have some problem in answering the question? You've failed to do so twice now. Do please explain.

What symbolic tradition ?
Name any previous president, or candidate that was named in those reports ?

What makes Norris so progressive ?

Paparazzo · 03-06-2011 05:18PM

sesna wrote: »

Why are you talking about child abusers and the Ryan commision. We are talking about David Norris.

Ironically, the same people have a problem with a homosexual that engages in consensual sex with people above the legal age as president have no problem with the biggest pedophile ring in the history of the planet being in control of 95% of our primary schools.

Nodin · 03-06-2011 05:20PM

Quo Vadis wrote: »

What symbolic tradition ?
Name any previous president, or candidate that was named in those reports ?

What makes Norris so progressive ?

And now, for a third time, you've failed to answer. Why?

Quo Vadis · 03-06-2011 05:21PM

Paparazzo wrote: »

Ironically, the same people have a problem with a homosexual that engages in consensual sex with people above the legal age as president have no problem with the biggest pedophile ring in the history of the planet being in control of 95% of our primary schools.

Only Paedos of a certain religion are a problem ?

Quo Vadis · 03-06-2011 05:23PM

Nodin wrote: »

And now, for a third time, you've failed to answer. Why?

What are you trying to pretend previous presidents were involived in, spit it out, you have not made that clear, then I can answer.

What makes Norris so progressive, or are you avoiding that ?

zuroph · 03-06-2011 05:24PM

sesna wrote: »

I believe Norris did not take legal action, or ask for a correction because he firmly stood by these quotes and they reflected his beliefs.

TBF they reflect my beliefs too. and many many others I suspect. but people are throwing up red flags because he said the "P" word, and not stopping to take stock of what he's trying to say.

Paparazzo · 03-06-2011 05:27PM

Quo Vadis wrote: »

As long as its one of your pedo's its ok, is that it ?

One of my paedos? I'm not supporting any paedos here.

Paparazzo · 03-06-2011 05:29PM

Quo Vadis wrote: »

Only Paedos of a certain religion are a problem ?

So David Norris is a paedo now? Perhaps you can show me the article where David Norris says he's sexually attracted to pre pubesent boys and engages in sex with them?

Nodin · 03-06-2011 05:35PM

Quo Vadis wrote: »

What are you trying to pretend previous presidents were involived in, spit it out, you have not made that clear, then I can answer.

I'm merely querying your statement here

A Gay Irish West Brit President born in the Belgian Congo, who is sexually attracted to underage boys ? Sounds perfect for the new Ireland all right

Of course theres always the chance that I misinterpreted your meaning. Perhaps if you explain it to me....?

Spread · 03-06-2011 05:36PM

Paddy Power must be following this thread. The Bearded One is now 2/1 with Pat Cox slipping into the role of Favourite.

Nodin · 03-06-2011 05:51PM

Spread wrote: »

Paddy Power must be following this thread. The Bearded One is now 2/1 with Pat Cox slipping into the role of Favourite.

Cox in the Aras? We can't have such an abomination.

My name is URL · 03-06-2011 05:58PM

I'll go back on my previous decision not to vote for Norris if it means keeping Pat Cox from winning. The thoughts of him as our president makes me shudder. Didn't he head the 2nd pro-Lisbon campaign.. the one with all the bullshit?

Fcuk that for a game of toy soldiers!

Quo Vadis · 03-06-2011 06:06PM

Nodin wrote: »

I'm merely querying your statement here

What part of it is incorrect ?

Spread · 03-06-2011 06:07PM

I can just see the headline in The Irish Smut: Gay Presidential candidate shafted by Cox

Quo Vadis · 03-06-2011 06:08PM

Paparazzo wrote: »

So David Norris is a paedo now? Perhaps you can show me the article where David Norris says he's sexually attracted to pre pubesent boys and engages in sex with them?

You were the one that brought up Paedo's
Perhaps you can show me where I was reffering to Norris ?

Nodin · 03-06-2011 06:14PM

Quo Vadis wrote: »

What part of it is incorrect ?

You make the statement.

A Gay Irish West Brit President born in the Belgian Congo, who is sexually attracted to underage boys ? Sounds perfect for the new Ireland all right

How would a president "sexually attracted to underage boys" be perfect for the "new Ireland"?

What is this "new Ireland"?

Biggins · 03-06-2011 06:43PM

My name is URL wrote: »

I'll go back on my previous decision not to vote for Norris if it means keeping Pat Cox from winning. The thoughts of him as our president makes me shudder. Didn't he head the 2nd pro-Lisbon campaign.. the one with all the bullshit?

Fcuk that for a game of toy soldiers!

Cannot stand that man. Regardless of whom I'm voting for, he would be last - and only then if a gun was pointing at my head.

sesna · 03-06-2011 07:12PM

Whatever about Ancient Greece or victims of child abuse, intellectual high brow context, paedophilia versus pederastry, the fact remains Norris's quotes are very damaging and he alone has created this mess and shown very questionable judgement.

Biggins · 03-06-2011 07:26PM

sesna wrote: »

Whatever about Ancient Greece or victims of child abuse, intellectual high brow context, paedophilia versus pederastry, the fact remains Norris's quotes are very damaging and he alone has created this mess and shown very questionable judgement.

...in your opinion - which your entitled to.

Others disagree.

Paparazzo · 03-06-2011 07:28PM

Quo Vadis wrote: »

You were the one that brought up Paedo's
Perhaps you can show me where I was reffering to Norris ?

Here for a start. Plenty of other threads too including one you edited.

Quo Vadis wrote: »

A Gay Irish West Brit President born in the Belgian Congo, who is sexually attracted to underage boys ? Sounds perfect for the new Ireland all right.

Quo Vadis wrote: »

Sounds like your hoping Norris will invite you up the Áras, are you sure your young enough ?

Quo Vadis wrote: »

Only Paedos of a certain religion are a problem ?

Pretty sad your only form of argument is making up stuff about Norris and then pretending you didn't say it.

goat2 · 03-06-2011 08:59PM

RachaelVO wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2011/0603/1224298323687.html

I just read it. Not too surprised by the content, when I knew he was going to write a piece on it, I figured he would back up Burke. Funnily enough though, he didn't make any reference to hearing the tapes. He just took her word for it!

i would like to hear that tape, as when i was growing up, a father had a pint with his son, it was a sign that he welcomed him into the world of adulthood, was i born under a bush, that i am shocked by certain sentences in this link

Nodin · 03-06-2011 09:05PM

goat2 wrote: »

i would like to hear that tape, as when i was growing up, a father had a pint with his son, it was a sign that he welcomed him into the world of adulthood, was i born under a bush, that i am shocked by certain sentences in this link

...just not too familiar with the 'unspeakable vice of the greeks', really. Which isn't suprising, as its a topic avoided like the plague. For some reason.

Quo Vadis · 03-06-2011 09:46PM

Paparazzo wrote: »

Here for a start. Plenty of other threads too including one you edited.

Pretty sad your only form of argument is making up stuff about Norris and then pretending you didn't say it.

You do understand the difference between Paedophilia and underage ?

You were the one that brought up Paedophillia, why ?

Quo Vadis · 03-06-2011 09:49PM

Nodin wrote: »

You make the statement.

And you disagree with it.

Nodin wrote: »

How would a president "sexually attracted to underage boys" be perfect for the "new Ireland"?

What is this "new Ireland"?

New Ireland is Ireland going forward

Why would Norris not be perfect for the new Ireland, and why not ?

Nodin · 03-06-2011 09:53PM

Quo Vadis wrote: »

New Ireland is Ireland going forward

And what is that supposed to mean?

Quo Vadis wrote: »

Why would Norris not be perfect for the new Ireland, and why not ?

...parsing that for meaning....hmmm. I thought we were talking about your statement

Gay Irish West Brit President born in the Belgian Congo, who is sexually attracted to underage boys ? Sounds perfect for the new Ireland all right

Do you want to talk about senator norris now?

Contemplating Aristotle · 03-06-2011 10:06PM

Nodin wrote: »

What is this "new Ireland"?

A land and a state of mind that we are yet to reach. A place in which a man regardless of his background or orientation may attain office, the source of our representation to those in the context of abroad. It is where tolerance abounds, where the enigma of intolerance has been all but smashed, smashed by our progression as a people. We are moving toward a state of political operation, a new playing field and perhaps a new mode of existence regarding the political arena, both real and virtual.

The day is upon us when intolerance and bigotry no longer enslave our actions and beliefs, and we are released, free to roam and expand our mind within a new existence where tolerance is tolerated and intolerance is not tolerated.

David Norris for President....would you vote for him?

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