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David Norris for President....would you vote for him?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 sausage n buns


    Yeah Senator Norris has my number one vote. Hopefully he will get in, it will show we can take in progressive politics in this contry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 413 ✭✭Quo Vadis


    Yeah Senator Norris has my number one vote. Hopefully he will get in, it will show we can take in progressive politics in this contry.

    What do you think is progressive about Norris ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 360 ✭✭Paddy De Plasterer


    Norris for the Áras is finished. John Waters in todays Times backs up Helen Lucy Burke, and he was editor of Magill at the the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!


    I hope he wins.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    Quo Vadis wrote: »
    Sounds like your hoping Norris will invite you up the Áras, are you sure your young enough ?


    Considering you post on the Christianity forum mostly, its no surprise you're so interested in underage gay sex.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Quo Vadis wrote: »
    A Gay Irish West Brit President born in the Belgian Congo, who is sexually attracted to underage boys ? Sounds perfect for the new Ireland all right.

    Sigh....no he is not a paedophile!!! In fact if I recall right he used the word abhorrant to describe paedophilia.

    All the other stuff is irrelevent.
    sesna wrote: »
    It's really wrong for any grown man to have sex with an underage teenage boy whether that be Ancient Greece or modern day.
    sesna wrote: »
    Im not linking the two. I dont think it was acceptable in Ancient Greece either. If I was transported in a time machine back there, I wouldnt start endorsing it. It is wrong now just as it was wrong then.

    Yes of course it wrong. Not one person here, nor Senator Norris has ever said it was right and you know it.

    This argument is getting old now. Can we move on please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭Opelfruit


    Norris is finished. After reading John Waters in todays IT he has no option but to stand aside.:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭murrayp4


    Opelfruit wrote: »
    Norris is finished. After reading John Waters in todays IT he has no option but to stand aside.:eek:

    Can't disagree


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,108 ✭✭✭RachaelVO


    Opelfruit wrote: »
    Norris is finished. After reading John Waters in todays IT he has no option but to stand aside.:eek:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2011/0603/1224298323687.html

    I just read it. Not too surprised by the content, when I knew he was going to write a piece on it, I figured he would back up Burke. Funnily enough though, he didn't make any reference to hearing the tapes. He just took her word for it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    I see the threads degenerated into a vehicle for homophobes, weirdos and low level trolling. Quelle Suprise.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    i'm not trollling, am far from a homophobe and can weirdly see the sense in his controversial comments on young boys (assuming he was quoted out of context) - but there is no way in the world i would like to see this guy be our president.

    for a start - he's just too bloody camp. gay is fine, camp is not. second, all he is is an 'intellectual' who managed to sponge off the senate for years - he has contributed very little to society and certainly not enough for our society to give him our highest praise by electing him to this position. i just dont see him having the gravity and presense of person needed to be our head representaive abroad and at home.

    no...i have a certain amount of respect for him but he's just too god damn eccentric to be a head of state to take seriously...a bit like if Donal Trump was elected president of the US...you'd laugh at him first then wonder what the hell the yanks were playing at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,233 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra



    for a start - he's just too bloody camp. gay is fine, camp is not.
    why?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    Johnnymcg wrote: »
    why?

    i dont think it's becoming for a head of state to act camp. is that insulting to gay people? i dont think so. you can be gay without having to act like a panto queen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    for a start - he's just too bloody camp. gay is fine, camp is not. second, all he is is an 'intellectual' who managed to sponge off the senate for years - he has contributed very little to society and certainly not enough for our society to give him our highest praise by electing him to this position. i just dont see him having the gravity and presense of person needed to be our head representaive abroad and at home.

    The records of Mary Robinson and Mary McAleese were primarily in Acadamia and the Seanad before they were elected President....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    i'm not trollling, am far from a homophobe and can weirdly see the sense in his controversial comments on young boys (assuming he was quoted out of context) - but there is no way in the world i would like to see this guy be our president.

    for a start - he's just too bloody camp. gay is fine, camp is not. second, all he is is an 'intellectual' who managed to sponge off the senate for years - he has contributed very little to society and certainly not enough for our society to give him our highest praise by electing him to this position. i just dont see him having the gravity and presense of person needed to be our head representaive abroad and at home.

    no...i have a certain amount of respect for him but he's just too god damn eccentric to be a head of state to take seriously...a bit like if Donal Trump was elected president of the US...you'd laugh at him first then wonder what the hell the yanks were playing at.

    Contributed very little? He got homosexuality decriminalised. the fact that this was only achieved in 1992 is embarassing beyond belief. that in itself is massive

    He is active in promoting Irelands great achievements in literature, something that would serve a head of state very well when representing Ireland abroad if only to confound the stereotypes. He has been a champion of human rights for decades. these are also things you can atribute to Michael D.

    Gravitas and presence is something he has in spades


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    Contributed very little? He got homosexuality decriminalised. the fact that this was only achieved in 1992 is embarassing beyond belief. that in itself is massive

    He is active in promoting Irelands great achievements in literature, something that would serve a head of state very well when representing Ireland abroad if only to confound the stereotypes. He has been a champion of human rights for decades. these are also things you can atribute to Michael D.

    Gravitas and presence is something he has in spades

    You have read this right ?

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2011/0603/1224298323687.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 845 ✭✭✭yupyup7up


    zuroph wrote: »
    his accent is genuine. posh, but genuine.
    No hie didnt, and the paper that said he did were forced to publish a retraction and apologyno he doesnt, another bit of media spin. He addresses both allegations in a video on his site. its the top on on the Ask David tab.
    fair enough. I can only go by what I see/hear
    RachaelVO wrote: »
    He is NO way plagues people with his sexuality, I sincerely hope you're looking at the right website and not the one organised by Enoch Burke who has devised a website that looks for all intents and purposes like it's actually the site from David Norris, that does nothing but go on and on about it.
    I was on this site, http://www.davidnorris4president.com, so I went by that one.
    mikemac wrote: »
    yeah the second one is grand the first one is a disgrace
    Originally Posted by yupyup7up
    solely from looking at his website, I wouldn't ever vote for him.

    Why does he insist on plaguing people with his sexuality?
    I see a lot of people pulling the homophobia card out though if somebody doesn't agree with it. It's not my cup of tea but I am friends with gay people.


    Thats exactly how i found him too. However others who met him and who have posted here didn't seem to see that at all.
    oh did you not hear the news? you're a homophobe now if you say the word "gay" apparently. it's fucking ridiculous how much people play that card. its the new racism.
    I hope you are looking at the correct website and not that rubbish by Enoch Burke.



    He doesn't flaunt anything, neither does he hide it. He just is who he is.

    I'm sorry but you do come across as homophobic. Would have a problem with a straight couple embracing or kissing or being affectionate in public.

    If not then why do you feel that way about same-sex couples.
    I've read some of your posts on this topic and you are absolutely the most one-sided person I've ever seen. Are you even open to others opinions? Do you read whole posts or just read what you want to read? I said I have a problem with straight people doing the same and you call me homophobic. If that's homophobic then I'm homophobic. (I have friends who are gay BTW). Get a grip and stop trying to be the perfect PC citizen because you really aren't. I suppose I'm a homophobe solely because I wouldn't vote for him yeah? :rolleyes:
    Expect to hear a lot more of this as voting day approaches.
    thanks whore
    Nodin wrote: »
    Absolutely. Last week he arrived and knocked at my door. Putting down a boom box he - wearing nothing more than a short leather skirt and rather dapper pair of thigh high boots - began to do the finale of riverdance, screaming "I'm Gay, Gay, Gay".

    Imagine what might result from such flagrant in your face gaying. Already I've had to restrain myself from washing and putting on a nice shirt.
    another thanks whore. I read the website and publications about him, I can only suss him out by what I'm given. I'm not going to say he's the man for the job just because he's gay. I fucking swear to god I'm sick of people playing that homophobia card. Would you vote for him if he wasn't so controversial?

    He seems a bit too eccentric to be our president and I don't think he'll represent the ROI in the way it needs to be. I certainly won't be voting for him. What pisses me off is that so many idiots will jump on the bandwagon now to show that we are a "progressive" nation. If anything it's a step backwards because people find it necessary to vote in a gay president now. Fucking wrecks my head knowing that it's the only reason they'd vote for him. I'm certainly leave if the country turns to this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Morlar wrote: »

    and i dont see how that has anything to do with what i said


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    yupyup7up wrote: »
    fair enough. I can only go by what I see/hear


    I was on this site, http://www.davidnorris4president.com, so I went by that one.


    yeah the second one is grand the first one is a disgrace


    oh did you not hear the news? you're a homophobe now if you say the word "gay" apparently. it's fucking ridiculous how much people play that card. its the new racism.


    I've read some of your posts on this topic and you are absolutely the most one-sided person I've ever seen. Are you even open to others opinions? Do you read whole posts or just read what you want to read? I said I have a problem with straight people doing the same and you call me homophobic. If that's homophobic then I'm homophobic. (I have friends who are gay BTW). Get a grip and stop trying to be the perfect PC citizen because you really aren't. I suppose I'm a homophobe solely because I wouldn't vote for him yeah? :rolleyes:


    thanks whore


    another thanks whore. I read the website and publications about him, I can only suss him out by what I'm given. I'm not going to say he's the man for the job just because he's gay. I fucking swear to god I'm sick of people playing that homophobia card. Would you vote for him if he wasn't so controversial?

    He seems a bit too eccentric to be our president and I don't think he'll represent the ROI in the way it needs to be. I certainly won't be voting for him. What pisses me off is that so many idiots will jump on the bandwagon now to show that we are a "progressive" nation. If anything it's a step backwards because people find it necessary to vote in a gay president now. Fucking wrecks my head knowing that it's the only reason they'd vote for him. I'm certainly leave if the country turns to this.


    oh good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    yupyup7up wrote: »
    whore

    That's Limerick citaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    Morlar wrote: »

    Have you? All that is contained in the article is pretty much a repeat of what Burke has said before.


    Summary of article: "Burke said to me what she has said to others".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 845 ✭✭✭yupyup7up


    oh good.

    have you got a problem?:confused: don't be a smarta$$ on here, say something if you have something relevant to say:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    yupyup7up wrote: »
    have you got a problem?:confused: don't be a smarta$$ on here, say something if you have something relevant to say:rolleyes:

    no problem at all. On the contrary Im delighted for you and support you in this endevour.

    I also think it would be an awefull thing to vote for someone because theyre gay. The only thing i could think of thats worse is not voting for someone thats gay based on whats said on a website that claims

    David has embraced a lifestyle which is blatantly out-of-line with traditional biblical morality.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    i dont think it's becoming for a head of state to act camp. is that insulting to gay people? i dont think so. you can be gay without having to act like a panto queen.

    He hardly comes across as a panto queen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    I've read some of your posts on this topic and you are absolutely the most one-sided person I've ever seen. Are you even open to others opinions? Do you read whole posts or just read what you want to read? I said I have a problem with straight people doing the same and you call me homophobic. If that's homophobic then I'm homophobic. (I have friends who are gay BTW). Get a grip and stop trying to be the perfect PC citizen because you really aren't. I suppose I'm a homophobe solely because I wouldn't vote for him yeah? :rolleyes:


    thanks whore
    .

    Reported.

    You didn't mention straigh people as far as I can see. You simply complained about homosexuals flaunting it. And to me you came across as homphobic/anti gay. It was not because you wouldn't vote for him and you know it.

    And don't call me one-sided or insult me just because I choose to support Norris, it doesn't help your argument in any way. Less of the smart ass crap as well please.

    Of course I read all posts, of course I'm open-minded just not to homophobes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    Contributed very little? He got homosexuality decriminalised. the fact that this was only achieved in 1992 is embarassing beyond belief. that in itself is massive

    He is active in promoting Irelands great achievements in literature, something that would serve a head of state very well when representing Ireland abroad if only to confound the stereotypes. He has been a champion of human rights for decades. these are also things you can atribute to Michael D.

    Gravitas and presence is something he has in spades

    i did say i'd a certain respect for him and being an openly gay senator who fought for this obviously ridiculous law to be scrapped is part of that reason. however - i wouldn't compare his achievements to either Robinson or McAleese. McAleese's work on the Troubles and Robinsons involvment in various campaigns outshine his imo.
    old hippy wrote: »
    He hardly comes across as a panto queen.

    but still very camp. and i dont want a camp head of state. the irish president is effectively the country's highest ranked diplomat and diplomats by their very nature need to be unoffensive and appealing to a wide cross section of people and cultures - i just can't imagine Norris making a particularly good impression on King Abdullah...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    I wouldn't vote for him because he annoys me and his lack of judgement in maing the comments he did shows a lack of diplomacy which is one of the few things an Irish president needs in spades.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    but still very camp. and i dont want a camp head of state. the irish president is effectively the country's highest ranked diplomat and diplomats by their very nature need to be unoffensive and appealing to a wide cross section of people and cultures - i just can't imagine Norris making a particularly good impression on King Abdullah...

    you could have said the same for a woman making a good impression on king abdullah. the ignorance of another head of state is not something we can help. they could also be offended that hes a christian.

    what is very camp about him and why is being camp offensive?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    ibut still very camp. and i dont want a camp head of state. the irish president is effectively the country's highest ranked diplomat and diplomats by their very nature need to be unoffensive and appealing to a wide cross section of people and cultures - i just can't imagine Norris making a particularly good impression on King Abdullah...


    You think he's going to mince about when he meets foreign dignitaries? :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    but still very camp. and i dont want a camp head of state. the irish president is effectively the country's highest ranked diplomat and diplomats by their very nature need to be unoffensive and appealing to a wide cross section of people and cultures - i just can't imagine Norris making a particularly good impression on King Abdullah...

    Another country's homophobia is not our problem tbh.

    What exactly about David Norris is offensive? Why wouldn't he appeal across the board?


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