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Welsh digital switch over-Irish reception questions answered

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  • #752
    razor_ryan
    Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭razor_ryan


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  • #753
    Booms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭Booms


    It'd look good on top of the telly. :D


  • #754
    wicklowgaz
    Registered Users Posts: 44 ✭wicklowgaz


    Has anyone any experience of using dish type aerials?


  • #755
    Macy0161
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,519 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Have only seen old and battered ones around. There used to be one outside a house coming into Roundwood on the Newtown road a few years back (haven't noticed it recently).

    iirc they have good gain, but the windload would be too high for where I'd have to put it (the one mentioned above was at ground level with a line of sight across the reserviour). Watty would be the person to fill you in - I still have this thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=146089 saved, although still not sure I completely understand it :) . I did have a link to making your own, but it appears dead now.


  • #756
    wicklowgaz
    Registered Users Posts: 44 ✭wicklowgaz


    Thanks mate very informative....


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  • #757
    newleaf
    Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭newleaf


    Hi all, looking for some advice. Getting Irish DTT fine (on a broken VHF aerial!)Last week tried to get UK channels from Arfon - I'm in Northside Arklow and have a line of sight to sea, just about, in north-east direction. Using grid aerial for the moment as nothing else readily available. Very pleased to get excellent reception for a week, but now it's gone for last few days, presumably weather related. From reading previous posts here I reckon I need to do as follows, but just checking that I'm right:

    Get better aerial - Televes DAT 75 seems best (19db gain) or is there better? Nobody seems to have Unix 100 or similar for sale. Will that be ok for group B or is that an issue? Does it matter whether I order from UK or Irl - no "Irish version" I presume. I've seen a few high gain aerials on ebay (87 element, 17 db gain), (eg here: http://cgi.ebay.ie/Digital-Wideband-TV-Aerial-Freeview-Antenna-High-Gain-/390312031435?pt=UK_ConEle_SatCableFreeview_RL&hash=item5ae068f4cb )

    but I want to have best chance of getting fairly consistent UK DTT if at all possible.

    Have Panasonic MPEG-4 TV and that was getting all channels fine last week. Also using Triax FT-8100 HD box so I can feed digital signal into my recorder. That's doing as well as the TV, but freezing after being on for a while (would updating firmware or factory state reset help?). If I need to replace that I could get a T-2 box so I can get Freeview HD - have I a hope of getting that here from Arfon? A few such boxes on Amazon - any recomendations?

    Thanks in advance.


  • #758
    wicklowgaz
    Registered Users Posts: 44 ✭wicklowgaz


    This is one of the best aerial sites I have found on the web for independent aerial tests and sales. I ordered a highest gain blake group b from them recently. Very fast and swift service. As regards the aerial performance it can get Freeview 60% of the time and it is very good on ch45 for saorview from mt leinster. I am based near Tinahely so naturally Freeview signals would be greatly influenced by lifts in the right weather.

    http://www.aerialsandtv.com/


  • #759
    aerial man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭aerial man


    newleaf wrote: »
    Hi all, looking for some advice. Getting Irish DTT fine (on a broken VHF aerial!)Last week tried to get UK channels from Arfon - I'm in Northside Arklow and have a line of sight to sea, just about, in north-east direction. Using grid aerial for the moment as nothing else readily available. Very pleased to get excellent reception for a week, but now it's gone for last few days, presumably weather related. From reading previous posts here I reckon I need to do as follows, but just checking that I'm right:

    Get better aerial - Televes DAT 75 seems best (19db gain) or is there better? Nobody seems to have Unix 100 or similar for sale. Will that be ok for group B or is that an issue? Does it matter whether I order from UK or Irl - no "Irish version" I presume. I've seen a few high gain aerials on ebay (87 element, 17 db gain), (eg here: http://cgi.ebay.ie/Digital-Wideband-TV-Aerial-Freeview-Antenna-High-Gain-/390312031435?pt=UK_ConEle_SatCableFreeview_RL&hash=item5ae068f4cb )

    but I want to have best chance of getting fairly consistent UK DTT if at all possible.

    Have Panasonic MPEG-4 TV and that was getting all channels fine last week. Also using Triax FT-8100 HD box so I can feed digital signal into my recorder. That's doing as well as the TV, but freezing after being on for a while (would updating firmware or factory state reset help?). If I need to replace that I could get a T-2 box so I can get Freeview HD - have I a hope of getting that here from Arfon? A few such boxes on Amazon - any recomendations?

    Thanks in advance.

    Hi,
    if you are interested in getting a unix 100B, we should have a few lying around. Also we have plenty of brackets, poles, amps and power supplies etc. If you are interested or want any advice, PM me. I'm located south of Gorey,
    Thanks Aerial Man


  • #760
    aerial man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭aerial man


    wicklowgaz wrote: »
    Guys,

    You know this aerial that someone mentioned in a different thread. Its a 1,2m dish for faint signals, I priced it with frequency distribution in the UK. They are a trade supplier to the industry. Its quite expensive at 199 pounds plus postage, this includes an amp of course.

    There is not many of these aerials on the web for sale.

    Regards:confused:


    This is an old one up a hill between Stradbally and Portlaoise. It seemly picked up the BBC from Presely, It is facing roughly south east with horizontal polarization. Sorry about the bad photo but it was taken on a camera phone driving by! I just said I'd stick it up here.Its a little more than 1.2 m !!

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  • #761
    wicklowgaz
    Registered Users Posts: 44 ✭wicklowgaz


    aerial man wrote: »
    This is an old one up a hill between Stradbally and Portlaoise. It seemly picked up the BBC from Presely, It is facing roughly south east with horizontal polarization. Sorry about the bad photo but it was taken on a camera phone driving by! I just said I'd stick it up here.Its a little more than 1.2 m !!

    DSC00055.jpg

    cool fair play to you for putting that up mate!!! you are a mighty man!! sure is a bit bigger than 1.2m!!!!:D


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  • #762
    aerial man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭aerial man


    wicklowgaz wrote: »
    cool fair play to you for putting that up mate!!! you are a mighty man!! sure is a bit bigger than 1.2m!!!!:D

    I've never personally used these aerials, ( the 1.2 m ) but my father has used them a few times. It worked well in ferns where the reception was in consistent. I'm not sure but I think Triax made them at some stage, ill find out. They were expensive so very few customers opted for them. However I have seen a lot of them in Dublin ( presuming heading for the north)

    I think remember my father saying he worked on a 32ft dish that was installed in Wicklow near Hacketstown in a field. I'm not sure of the details but I'll find out. Seemly they set it using a tractor and loader!!


  • #763
    wicklowgaz
    Registered Users Posts: 44 ✭wicklowgaz


    Cheers mate id appreciated that!


  • #764
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,773 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    wicklowgaz wrote: »
    This is one of the best aerial sites I have found on the web for independent aerial tests and sales. I ordered a highest gain blake group b from them recently. Very fast and swift service. As regards the aerial performance it can get Freeview 60% of the time and it is very good on ch45 for saorview from mt leinster. I am based near Tinahely so naturally Freeview signals would be greatly influenced by lifts in the right weather.

    http://www.aerialsandtv.com/

    Hi wicklowgaz

    Did you order from www.aerialsandtv.com? There was a time I believe they didn't ship to Ireland.


  • #765
    wicklowgaz
    Registered Users Posts: 44 ✭wicklowgaz


    The Cush wrote: »
    Hi wicklowgaz

    Did you order from www.aerialsandtv.com? There was a time I believe they didn't ship to Ireland.

    Hello Cush, You are right. I got a aerial last month and they said they didnt ship to Ireland. However if you arrange your own carrier, they will pack it up for collection. They suggested me to us parcelstogo.co.uk, which gives you a choice of the best rates. I got a large aerial delivered for 17 pounds. It s a tad expensive but they have the best choice of grouped aerials with the associated test info on the web. They provide the gain graphs for their aerials which is quite rare.
    :)


  • #766
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,773 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    wicklowgaz wrote: »
    but they have the best choice of grouped aerials with the associated test info on the web. They provide the gain graphs for their aerials which is quite rare.
    :)

    Thanks for the info.

    It's an excellent site. The owner posts over in Digitalspy as Justin Aerial.


  • #767
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    newleaf wrote: »
    Hi all, looking for some advice. Getting Irish DTT fine (on a broken VHF aerial!)Last week tried to get UK channels from Arfon - I'm in Northside Arklow and have a line of sight to sea, just about, in north-east direction. Using grid aerial for the moment as nothing else readily available. Very pleased to get excellent reception for a week, but now it's gone for last few days, presumably weather related. From reading previous posts here I reckon I need to do as follows, but just checking that I'm right:

    Get better aerial - Televes DAT 75 seems best (19db gain) or is there better? Nobody seems to have Unix 100 or similar for sale. Will that be ok for group B or is that an issue? Does it matter whether I order from UK or Irl - no "Irish version" I presume. I've seen a few high gain aerials on ebay (87 element, 17 db gain), (eg here: http://cgi.ebay.ie/Digital-Wideband-TV-Aerial-Freeview-Antenna-High-Gain-/390312031435?pt=UK_ConEle_SatCableFreeview_RL&hash=item5ae068f4cb )

    but I want to have best chance of getting fairly consistent UK DTT if at all possible.

    Have Panasonic MPEG-4 TV and that was getting all channels fine last week. Also using Triax FT-8100 HD box so I can feed digital signal into my recorder. That's doing as well as the TV, but freezing after being on for a while (would updating firmware or factory state reset help?). If I need to replace that I could get a T-2 box so I can get Freeview HD - have I a hope of getting that here from Arfon? A few such boxes on Amazon - any recomendations?

    Thanks in advance.
    The grid aerial won't cope well with fog/wet weather.
    As aerial man says,a unix 100 group B and masthead amp will do the trick for you.
    He'll have all that gear-you'll be getting a pm in a moment.


  • #768
    aerial man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭aerial man


    wicklowgaz wrote: »
    Cheers mate id appreciated that!


    Hi all,
    Was speaking for my father for a few minutes today, he said he only worked on the dish, ( changing an amp or something) but didn't install the really big ones.

    A company or person called Gillespie in Carlow made them, who also made trailers. They used a colour prince ( half a colour king/ grid aerial) but as in the picture, other aerials were also used .

    There was one in Hacketstown, on the Baltinglass road just past the graveyard in the field, and also one in Avoca Co. Wicklow

    They were about 32-33ft in diameter and he thinks that there was also ones twice the size.

    Hope the information was interesting, if he mentions anything else about them, I'll post it up.


  • #769
    wicklowgaz
    Registered Users Posts: 44 ✭wicklowgaz


    Very interesting aerial man,I think I have seen a few around alright !!! Those were the days eh? I suppose the dish has the highest gain of an aerial!!


    aerial man wrote: »
    Hi all,
    Was speaking for my father for a few minutes today, he said he only worked on the dish, ( changing an amp or something) but didn't install the really big ones.

    A company or person called Gillespie in Carlow made them, who also made trailers. They used a colour prince ( half a colour king/ grid aerial) but as in the picture, other aerials were also used .

    There was one in Hacketstown, on the Baltinglass road just past the graveyard in the field, and also one in Avoca Co. Wicklow

    They were about 32-33ft in diameter and he thinks that there was also ones twice the size.

    Hope the information was interesting, if he mentions anything else about them, I'll post it up.


  • #770
    FRIENDO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    Put up a new Triax 52B aerial for Presely and ran a seperate cable to the tv, a second aerial and cable to a Combo box for Forth Mth/Saorview already.
    Perfect reception on Wales Freeview 42, 43, 46 and 49.
    Solved the problem on combining for me.:)


  • #771
    lucernarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    You should let Comreg know on the steps you had to take to get your setup working.

    I can't emphasise enough the importance of making the stupid civil servants in the spectrum planning end of Abbey St. accountable for their actions. People who normally don't have to deal with the public can be influenced by public pressure and may see common sense to avoid the unwashed masses from banging on their poor doorstep.


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  • #772
    FRIENDO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    They may not be to blame.
    According to the Saorview coverage map my home location is coloured in white.
    Saorview map advices me that recieving Saorview in my location may be a "Challenge" and they advise me about Saorsat in the future.
    I now get perfect Saorview from Forth Mountain 25miles away 50% srtength and 40% signal approximately however unable to combine as I loose signal (even with anti-inteference combiner).
    Gorey, Mth Lenister and Arklow all nearer, however due to geography of land un-recievable.


  • #773
    marclt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭marclt


    I agree with you there @To_be_confirmed.

    Keep the pressure up.


  • #774
    JazzyJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 684 ✭✭✭JazzyJ


    I've previously been receiving freeview from Arfon, but decided to test out reception from Llanddona last night.

    Reception came in fine on the PSB muxes (57,60), but only received channel 43 on the PSB muxes. 46 and 50 didn't come through at all, although the tv thought long and hard about them.

    I'm only using a Group A aerial (had got it to try and get Blaenplywf to no avail), so could this have affected reception at the higher frequencies - channel 43 was only coming in with 25-30% quality. Or, presumably, there's some interference on these channels (Cairn Hill analogue coming in the back of the aerial maybe or somewhere else?).

    If CCI is the case is there anything I can do to minimise it, or would 43,57 and 60 be the best I could hope for?

    J.


  • #775
    marclt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭marclt


    Certainly a group A aerial would have an extremely poor pick up for any frequencies out of band.

    But at least you found something!


  • #776
    JazzyJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 684 ✭✭✭JazzyJ


    marclt wrote: »
    Certainly a group A aerial would have an extremely poor pick up for any frequencies out of band.

    But at least you found something!

    Surprisingly its been working almost 100% of the time for the last 6 months or so on Arfon which is on 41 and 44.

    Really just testing the viability of Llanddona on an ongoing basis.


  • #777
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    That will tell you how good arfon travels across that sea path.
    I'd be warey of llandonna tests at this time as we have a high pressure over us again.

    You must be using a wideband amp to be getting group B stuff on that aerial?
    A group B would do the job for you if it's not lift bringing it in.
    I get Llandonna down in wicklow regularally with the aerial pointed alsmost in the opposite direction.
    In lift it can play hell with presely..

    The chances are that Divis will bomb into you at dso there,so if you get a group B,hold onto the group A!


  • #778
    jabarrett35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 456 ✭✭jabarrett35


    I thought Preseli reception should be quite good today with high pressure, but no. I've had no reception since noon. I was wondering while watching the tennis, does the weather at the transmitter effect reception in deep fringe area? I'm sure someone on the forum will known. Also why with high pressure is the reception so poor? There is low cloud cover out to sea at present.


  • #779
    JazzyJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 684 ✭✭✭JazzyJ


    Deleted User wrote: »
    That will tell you how good arfon travels across that sea path.
    I'd be warey of llandonna tests at this time as we have a high pressure over us again.

    You must be using a wideband amp to be getting group B stuff on that aerial?
    A group B would do the job for you if it's not lift bringing it in.
    I get Llandonna down in wicklow regularally with the aerial pointed alsmost in the opposite direction.
    In lift it can play hell with presely..

    The chances are that Divis will bomb into you at dso there,so if you get a group B,hold onto the group A!

    Not sure what type of amp I'm using, presuming its a wide band one alright.

    I realise there's a fair bit of lift at the moment (was getting BP in for a few hours last night while pointed at Llanddona). I'm just gonna leave ita at Llanddona for now to see if its possible to get it long term - annoying that 46 and 50 aren't coming in at all though. If only Arfon was full freeview!

    Now that you mentioned interference from Presely, I see its broadcasting on 46 and 50 too. Could that be another potential culprit for my problems?
    jabarrett35 wrote: »
    I thought Preseli reception should be quite good today with high pressure, but no. I've had no reception since noon. I was wondering while watching the tennis, does the weather at the transmitter effect reception in deep fringe area? I'm sure someone on the forum will known. Also why with high pressure is the reception so poor? There is low cloud cover out to sea at present.

    Black Briar answered that one for me before!

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66013638&postcount=11


  • #780
    marclt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭marclt


    I can confirm that the cloud is hanging over Preseli this afternoon... occasionally veiling the top of the mast.

    Dry, no rain!


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  • #781
    jabarrett35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 456 ✭✭jabarrett35


    Funny enough the low cloud has just started too lift and reception is very strong now. BB is right about the sea fog. Though land mist does not seem too effect it as much.


  • #782
    [Deleted User]
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    @jazzy
    If preseli is causing problems for you it would be flukey as it would have to skirt across the entire wicklow mtns to south dublin.
    It might do it in a major lift.


  • #783
    whizbang
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭whizbang


    Hi Folks, probably stupid question but cant see the light.
    I am receiving channels 42 and 49 regularly (all day) last couple of weeks. the channel lineup for these mux's appears to be the same as the Preseli transmitter but i cant see any signal on any of the other frequencies listed for Preseli.
    its an old rusty drunken grid, with mostly useable Arfon. Which should be replaced soon, but with what? I was hoping for Blaenp..f, but nobody seems to have any luck with that. My question really is if i had a better aerial, what should i aim for?


  • #784
    FRIENDO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    Picking up perfect Preseli since I changed to a group B aerial, Ch45 is the only channels to drop in and out.
    Also picking up Ch39 on the back of the Preseli aerial


  • #785
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    whizbang wrote: »
    Hi Folks, probably stupid question but cant see the light.
    I am receiving channels 42 and 49 regularly (all day) last couple of weeks. the channel lineup for these mux's appears to be the same as the Preseli transmitter but i cant see any signal on any of the other frequencies listed for Preseli.
    its an old rusty drunken grid, with mostly useable Arfon. Which should be replaced soon, but with what? I was hoping for Blaenp..f, but nobody seems to have any luck with that. My question really is if i had a better aerial, what should i aim for?
    Is it that you just noticed that you were picking these up recently or do you think that 42 and 49 were there off and on a lot of the time?
    Your aerial is vertical and one of the lowest gain you can get and half knackered as you say.
    Preseli is several degree's south of arfon and is horzontal.

    A proper group B with a group B amp could be tested mounted horizontal to see what preseli is really like for you and if it's not reliable,you should at least get good arfon by remounting the aerial vertical and pointing it back to arfon.

    I'm thinking the only obstacles to preseli in say greystones would be wicklow head and the high ground to the south of it.
    However,the further away from there you are it is possible that the signal can weave around them.
    Your problem then would be distance and earth curvature.

    Worth a try though,see'ing as the group B will do arfon anyway.

    Try the grid horizontal and bear it for preseli and see what you get as a start.
    You could also try bear it up there for Blaenplwyf as a test.

    There is a high pressure at the moment so conditions are not ideal as these signals will come in at times regardless of what you do due to there being a lift of signals in the athmosphere with this weather.


  • #786
    Charlie-Bravo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,701 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    a few questions for receiving UK terrestrial reception - I'm in Greystones, near to the coast but not elevated:

    1. What transmitter should I point the antenna at? Presili or Afron?

    2. What size anteanna should I use? (Aldi have some small antennas available but I reckon they'll be too small)

    3. Do I need a wideband amp thingy to get the signal?

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  • #787
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    You need a group B unix 52 at least and preferably a unix 100 and a group B masthead amp and power supply unit and ct100 cable.
    This is to be vertically polarised pointed at arfon.
    You will need a 15ft pole and fixings for your chimney,a fairly strong pole.

    The unix and amp should be all you need as it should also pick up the greystones saorview transmitter from stray signal coming in via the side or the back of the aerial.


  • #788
    lucernarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    A unix 100 is massive and how much would it cost? A 15ft pole with such a large aerial on top would put quite a strain on a chimney in very windy conditions. I remember an installer mentioning to my father about 15 years ago that anything over 10ft would need to have guy wires used aswell. Freesat would be handier than going down that road.


  • #789
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    We have them on bungalow chimneys down here tbc for years without a problem.
    A 15ft pole is needed to hold their weight without stays,they've survived hurricane like storms over the years.
    The 15ft pole would be the max used without stays around here and there are lots of them.
    In fact the road beside me has six or seven of them all pointed to arfon :)

    Doctors differ I suppose.

    The cost is about 50 or 60 euros


  • #790
    lucernarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    Fair enough. I would have thought Arfon had better coverage in south Wicklow than Kilkeel has in Drogheda and most people in Drogheda get by with a grid aerial and a 6 or 10ft pole. Does Arfon work well on grid aerials or even contract Group Bs along the coast? I have read mixed reports in this thread.


  • #791
    [Deleted User]
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    It's inclined to cut out on grids sometimes.
    Contracts wouldn't work well at all.
    Unix 52's would work most of the time if not all of the time except with fog when theres sure to be cut outs.
    I'm recommending the 100's because they are better obviously and we're used to them here and of course it's a case of making reception as bullet proof as possible,ie going that extra mile.
    I always recommend having freesat as well [we do] as the cast iron back up.
    The aerial is brilliant and easy for multi room.We have preseli BBC1hd and itv1 hd in all rooms.B and B'ers love the choice.

    The unix 100's locally here would be legacy ones from analogue where sucessfull attempts were made to limit the grain in arfon analogue.
    The road I mentioned has no line of sight to the sea just a mile away so they were essential.

    Grids were very acceptable for most with analogue as most didn't mind heavy grain.
    When I was using arfon,I went for twin unix 100 equivalents which brought in incredibly clear arfon analogue.

    We of course switched them over to presely a few months before dso there and discovered beautifull preseli analogue from them but they are on a 45 foot pole with stays as we needed to up and over a small hill for a sea view.
    At chimney height we had awfull co channel from cairn hill on preseli so hence went with the twins on arfon.
    We only discovered the lack of cairn hill co channel up at 70ft [roof height plus mast height] or so when we were switching them over to preseli in july 2009 in readiness for the imminent dso there.


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  • #792
    lucernarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    That doesn't bode well for the Louth/Meath/Dublin coast at all. People won't like it if their freeview regularly cuts as Kilkeel's analogue fluctuates at the best of times! Arfon also enjoyed an increase in coverage with DSO which Kilkeel will not get to the same degree. If only that ferguson combo box for €99 on satellite.ie could also auto-retune the satellite channels...


  • #793
    [Deleted User]
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    Dublin is more than likely out alright but louth should be fine with a unix 52 or something.
    Not sure of the power of forth mtn off hand but it's traveling 30 miles or so and I'll guess it's only 200 watts.
    The grids will be under pressure I'd say.


  • #794
    Charlie-Bravo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,701 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    Thanks for that guys - very insightful - I think I'll go for the Freesat option and get a combo sat box rather than try using Saorview TV's while attempting to receive both Irish and UK terrestrial receptions over one cable.

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  • #795
    lucernarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Dublin is more than likely out alright but louth should be fine with a unix 52 or something.
    Not sure of the power of forth mtn off hand but it's traveling 30 miles or so and I'll guess it's only 200 watts.
    The grids will be under pressure I'd say.
    About 90% of the aerials used to pick up Kilkeel along the coast are grids:(

    I'll check up what power RTE intended to use for Forth Mountain back when Boxer were interested.

    Irish DTT reception will work with anything in Greystones, the only thing needed is an aerial for Arfon.


  • #796
    joceadaigh
    Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭joceadaigh


    New horizontally polarised areal, aligned noticeably too far south for Arfon, on the Windgates hill about 1/2 way up on the left coming from greystones. Erected 2-3 weeks ago.

    Does this mean blaenplwyf or preseli are available up this far??


  • #797
    sesswhat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭sesswhat


    joceadaigh wrote: »
    New horizontally polarised areal, aligned noticeably too far south for Arfon, on the Windgates hill about 1/2 way up on the left coming from greystones. Erected 2-3 weeks ago.

    Does this mean blaenplwyf or preseli are available up this far??

    Did you try the doorbell? :)


  • #798
    joceadaigh
    Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭joceadaigh


    sesswhat wrote: »

    Did you try the doorbell? :)

    No... That would mean waiting another hour for the next bus. Just thought someone here may know if there's been better cases from these two transmitters than the original few that didn't find it reliable.


  • #799
    aerial man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭aerial man


    Here is an aerial set up we've been testing for the last while near Kilmuckridge, Co Wexford. It has been working perfectly on ch 52 for Saorview from forth mt, also Ch 42, 43, 46 and 49 working very reliably.
    Ch 45 does not work due to mt Leinster causing interference but this was expected. The TV used was a 32" Samsung

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    It has a 5052 diplexer with a low gain mast head amp ( to guarantee a consistent signal )


  • #800
    FRIENDO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    Good News.

    I picked up a Saorview Vision VST 8010 STB in Powercity.
    I normally get signal strength around 40% - 50% on the LG tv or Ferguson Combo for Forth and when combined with Freeview I would loose Forth.

    With the Vision STB Forth was coming in at 90%-100%, so I combined the signal's with a white splitter at the back of the Vision stb.
    Slight change to the Saorview signal possible 1% and Freeview coming in loud and clear.

    I wonder is it something to do with new software in the Saorview Vision STB ?

    Its holding a couple of days perfect, will monitor reception to see how it holds.


  • #801
    Peter Rhea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    aerial man wrote: »
    Here is an aerial set up we've been testing for the last while near Kilmuckridge, Co Wexford. It has been working perfectly on ch 52 for Saorview from forth mt, also Ch 42, 43, 46 and 49 working very reliably.
    Ch 45 does not work due to mt Leinster causing interference but this was expected . . . It has a 5052 diplexer with a low gain mast head amp ( to guarantee a consistent signal )

    What about the Freeview HD mux on ch50? Does the 5052 diplexer kill it?

    I wouldn't recommend this kind of setup to anyone with coverage from Mt. Leinster; just wait for the Saorview channel change at switchover which will have the added bonus of much easier combining with the Preseli signal.


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