Complusory Purchase Order of Lambay Island?

Smcgie wrote: »

WRONG! Lambay is rich in minerals and hydrocarbons off coast that the british lay claim to.

You mean Rockall (the one in the Fureys song)

Lambay is about 5km east of Portraine in north Dublin. Owned privately in the same way that lots of people own stuff- whether the owners are English, Irish or otherwise doesn't really matter.

All the oil is in Killiney Bay!

You are getting so worked up over a fecking island op,there's at least 30 dotted around the west coast that are empty,go and set up your little employment paradise there.

You say it will cause employment,how so?Maybe a hotel and a few shops,employing a total of about 50 people,do you really think it's worth it or do you plan on building some massive factory?

You're complaining about Irish people not being creative and not caring,yet if you feel so passionate about this why are you sitting on the computer whinging and giving out to other people rather actually doing something about it?

You won't take anyone elses opinions or suggestions on board,you have a one track mind and don't want to change it,why did you come on here then presumably looking for opinions if you won't listen?

Good luck taking it over.

Even though many posters have said what a ludicris and useless idea it is.

Also,wallabies?Niceeee.

Carlos_Ray wrote: »

The current family haven't owned it for centuries and they rarely visit it now. The Irish were forcefully removed from the island to make way for the British settlers. The current family bought it. A CPO is not stealing, they would be paid for their property in a similar way to the way CPOs are put on property in the way of motorways etc.

The island has the potential to make money if managed correctly. It would be a long term project though, something Irish people aren't used to. Its certainly not a "buy now sell next year" job. If it was, everybody in this country would be on board because its all people here know how to do.

The Barings(yes the Nick Leeson ones) bought the Island in 1904. It was the Talbots of Malahide castle fame who replaced the farmers on the island in 1860 but the farmers weren't natives to the island and most likely recruited from the north county dublin. There has always been a problem populating the Island.

It was a prison camp in 1691 and served as a Coastguard station following the many ship wrecks on its rocks. The son and heir of the original Barings owners lived on the island most of his life. Today it has a population of 10, usually the Barings hired locally from North Co Dublin, old staff members were granted the right to be buried on the Island. It has been harder to recruit locally due to the luxuries of the Celtic Tiger so now most staff are northern Europe and not Britain as you seem to think.

Unfortunately you won't get too much support for your anti british argument in this part of Dublin as the local Anglo Irish landlords had an excellent record as landlords and donators to the local community. Barings family have an excellent track record of management of the wildlife of the Island and heritage. And the last time Fingal Council(Dublin Council) took over property of such heritage in this area they knocked it down rather than spend money on it.

If you write a letter to the trust you can get permission to visit the island. But you have to make your own way to the Island but it seems you have plenty of hot air to power a sail boat out to Lambay.

Carlos_Ray wrote: »

Why in 2010 is the largest island off the east coast of Ireland still inaccessible to Irish people and under the control of members of the “British elite” who only visit the island occasionally?

Because it's privately owned land legally bought by its present owners. We do enjoy land rights in this country (won after hard struggles with the 'British elite').

Carlos_Ray wrote: »

This island could be a major boost to the economy with all the tourists it would attract. It’s Scuba Diving grounds, its wildlife, it’s wallabies!! Obviously purchasing the island in the current climate would be difficult (although I feel in the long run it would create numerous tourist related jobs and generate income), however, why wasn’t a CPO put on it during the boom??? People in Ireland seem to have just accepted that a jewel of the east coast has always been inaccessible to them.

If its that valuable, why doesn't someone make an offer for it to the present owners.

Carlos_Ray wrote: »

This country will never progress unless creative and daring action is taken by the Government. There’s only so long tourists can be fooled into visiting the rat infested rock that is Ireland’s eye. Lambay island has the potential to be a goldmine, but no-one in Government has the balls to CPO it.

I didn't think we could CPO privately owned land unless it was needed for some important infrastructural development. You want to live in a country where the authorities can simply CPO your property because they deem that it could be put to some better use?

This is not Zimbabwe.

Stop trying to dig yourself out of a hole, you're embarrassing yourself.

Wallabies is true, why does everyone have a wallabie fascination with the place?

I hadnt heard about the orgies on Lambay but then again Mick Jagger was in Rush a few times in the late 60s- early 70s so you might be right:D

Maybe thats the type of business Carlos wants for the place!

round tower huntsman wrote: »

he was talking bout the landed gentry...who were said to be fond of their opium and their orgies!

Its defo Jagger then!

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im pretty sure i heard a rumour the council were offered the island at a price of 1 million but did not avail of it,but then again i heard the rumours of mick jagger having orgies on it,also the latest one going around rush is that they practice witch craft over there:rolleyes: