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Monkey stoned and burned to death for being a witch

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  • #32
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    YFlyer wrote: »
    In Hartlepool they hung a monkey because they though the monkey was a French spy.

    I refer the honourable member to my previous post


  • #33
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,712 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    I refer the honourable member to my previous post

    I'm lost. Was the rambling referring to the Harlepool incident?


  • #34
    RoundyMooney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭RoundyMooney


    YFlyer wrote: »
    I'm lost. Was the rambling referring to the Harlepool incident?

    Must be, a local legend (that may well sadly refer to a child crew member rather than a primate) from England at the time of Napoleon is obviously on a par with some group with bones in their noses burning a monkey to death, last week.


  • #35
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,096 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Dudess wrote: »
    In before walshb, whiteonion and old_aussie use it to justify racism...

    Niall Mellon must be baffled. All those houses he and Paddy built for the poor black people, and this is how they behave. Tut tut. Next he'll be building houses for monkeys to save them.

    And, what is with your racism jibe?

    From all the posts, you are the only one mentioning racism. Insecure, are we?


  • #36
    Fratton Fred
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    In fairness though, getting the chap stoned first was pretty decent.


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  • #37
    Nodin
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    RoundyMooney wrote: »
    Must be, a local legend (that may well sadly refer to a child crew member rather than a primate) from England at the time of Napoleon is obviously on a par with some group with bones in their noses burning a monkey to death, last week.

    Though parts of Africa may still lie in relative 'darkness', they at least have the excuse of poverty, lack of education, isolation etc. Your ignorance, however, doesn't have such caveats attached.
    Walshb wrote:
    Niall Mellon must be baffled. All those houses he and Paddy built for the poor black people, and this is how they behave..

    I realise that for some reason you woke up today with a need to get a dig in at some charity and Mellons name was on the calendar, but chucking it in here is a bit off - even for you.


  • #38
    Tar.Aldarion
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Oh, i thought it was a velvet monkey :-|


  • #39
    Dudess
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    walshb wrote: »
    Niall Mellon must be baffled. All those houses he and Paddy built for the poor black people, and this is how they behave. Tut tut. Next he'll be building houses for monkeys to save them.

    And, what is with your racism jibe?

    From all the posts, you are the only one mentioning racism. Insecure, are we?
    Why would it be "insecurity"? How is that even relevant? I reckoned you'd use this to look down on black people in general - and I was right. No biggie. Christ, you even implicate people whom you've no idea were involved or not. You've more than proven my point.


  • #40
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Dudess wrote: »
    I thought I made it clear I'm not the one who'll be using it to justify racism. Some... people feel it's ok to use this to look down on all black people unfortunately.
    While this incident dosnt make me look down on all black people, it does make me look down on the black people involved.


  • #41
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,096 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Nodin wrote: »
    I realise that for some reason you woke up today with a need to get a dig in at some charity and Mellons name was on the calendar, but chucking it in here is a bit off - even for you.

    No, I think it's quite apt. Considering it did occur in the "housing estates"
    that he and Paddy built. Love to know what he thinks of it. And, I wonder how the renting of the houses is going?


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  • #42
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,096 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Dudess wrote: »
    Why would it be "insecurity"? How is that even relevant? I reckoned you'd use this to look down on black people in general - and I was right. No biggie. Christ, you even implicate people whom you've no idea were involved or not. You've more than proven my point.

    Hmm, implicated whom? Black people? Eh, it did happen in the townships, didn't it? So, I am guessing it was black people who were involved.

    So, care to explain the racism accusation? Is the word black a racist word or something?


  • #43
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    walshb wrote: »
    No, I think it's quite apt. Considering it did occur in the "housing estates"......

    I had no idea that life in a housing estate produced a certain standard of education and behaviour. Evidently the denizens of Darndale, St Marys and Moyross are dwelling in straw and mud huts. We should send Mr Mellon down there next, with his wondrous domiciles.


  • #44
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,096 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Nodin wrote: »
    I had no idea that life in a housing estate produced a certain standard of education and behaviour. Evidently the denizens of Darndale, St Marys and Moyross are dwelling in straw and mud huts. We should send Mr Mellon down there next, with his wondrous domiciles.

    Why would he do that, sure they are Irish, he'd hardly be giving freebies to his own, would he?


  • #45
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    walshb wrote: »
    Why would he do that, sure they are Irish, he'd hardly be giving freebies to his own, would he?

    Can't miss an excuse to trot out the same oul whinge, can ye?

    You still haven't explained this magical link between housing and education/behaviour.


  • #46
    RoundyMooney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭RoundyMooney


    Nodin wrote: »
    Though parts of Africa may still lie in relative 'darkness', they at least have the excuse of poverty, lack of education, isolation etc. Your ignorance, however, doesn't have such caveats attached.

    What's ignorant about apportioning blame based on behaviour rather than skin colour?

    People were queuing up (well, I think three did) to scoff at an 18th century folk tale, just because it involved supposed animal abuse, and the protaganists were white, using it as a parallel with these poor misguided souls and their monkey burning shenanigans.

    Speaking of education, I gather South Africa, downhill and all as it has gone in the last couple of decades, is still one of the more affluent African countries. Which isn't saying a lot, but even so...

    Personally, I don't care what colour your skin is, but if you act like a primitive twat, that's pretty much the inference I'll draw.

    And if every story I read from a particular part of the world throws up similiar savagery of one form or another, then I'll tend to draw a pattern, and lose the initial surprise when yet another such story appears.

    I can still treat people as I find them, though, and tend not to indulge in over compensation. In either direction.


  • #47
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,096 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Nodin wrote: »
    Can't miss an excuse to trot out the same oul whinge, can ye?

    You still haven't explained this magical link between housing and education/behaviour.


    Just answering your query, or, your same old query!


  • #48
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    walshb wrote: »
    Just answering your query, ..........

    You didn't.


  • #49
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    RoundyMooney wrote: »
    ...............

    Personally, I don't care what colour your skin is, but if you act like a primitive twat, that's pretty much the inference I'll draw.

    .............

    ?


    I might add that story from hartlepool was a perfect parallel given the lack of socio-economic development of large parts of SA society.


  • #50
    Creature
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,005 ✭✭✭Creature


    Poor monkey. Though probably better to be sure. Monkey witches possess all the dangers of regular witches plus they spread parasites as well.


  • #51
    RoundyMooney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭RoundyMooney


    Nodin wrote: »
    ?


    I might add that story from hartlepool was a perfect parallel given the lack of socio-economic development of large parts of SA society.

    Not you, Nodin, for fecks sake. Don't be obtuse.

    The Hartlepool story is unproven, of course the locals love it, because it's a colourful tale.

    Oops, there I go again.


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  • #52
    Dudess
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    While this incident dosnt make me look down on all black people, it does make me look down on the black people involved.
    Of course - perfectly reasonable. The behaviour is abysmal, and it seems to be a societal problem, but people who say it's race-wide/continent-wide are exceptionally prejudiced and ignorant. Speaking of which, Walshb, care to explain how you're so certain people who were housed by Niall Mellon were involved?


  • #53
    Dotsie~tmp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭Dotsie~tmp


    Maybe it was mistaken identity.


  • #54
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Dudess wrote: »
    Of course - perfectly reasonable. The behaviour is abysmal, and it seems to be a societal problem, but people who say it's race-wide/continent-wide are exceptionally prejudiced and ignorant. Speaking of which, Walshb, care to explain how you're so certain people who were housed by Niall Mellon were involved?

    He'll be back in a minute, he's just working out how to get Bunny Carr and yer woman that goes to Chernobyl in the mix too.


  • #55
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    I heard they're a superstitious people down that way purple monkey witchdoctor


  • #56
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,096 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Dudess wrote: »
    Of course - perfectly reasonable. The behaviour is abysmal, and it seems to be a societal problem, but people who say it's race-wide/continent-wide are exceptionally prejudiced and ignorant. Speaking of which, Walshb, care to explain how you're so certain people who were housed by Niall Mellon were involved?

    I know you read my posts, but do you read them thoroughly, because if you did you would see nothing certain about my hunch.:confused: I used the word guessing.

    Let's see. The incident occurred in a township. Black people live in townships in SA, well at least I think they do. So I think it's fairly ok to maybe guess that black people were involved? Niall did build many a house for many a black person in the townships, did he not? See, a betting man may
    just stick a few bob on this "guess" of mine.

    But, seeing as you are such a certain kinda' person, it could possibly have been white people who just happened to be passing through? Happy?
    That diplomatic enough, PC enough?

    Now, there's my answer. How about yours, as regards the racism jibe?


  • #57
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    What has this to do with the Niall Mellon Trust? I'm confused.


  • #58
    Show Time
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    Mickeroo wrote: »
    I knew when i saw the thread title it was either going to be South Africa or Cork.
    If i was a betting man i would have went with Limerick.


  • #59
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,096 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    What has this to do with the Niall Mellon Trust? I'm confused.


    Oh, I was just wondering what he would think about it, that is all. After all Paddy's hard work trying to better the lives of the poor black people in the townships, and then to hear that this is how they can behave. Hey, not blaming him at all, just curious as to how he might feel.
    I know if I gave all my time for "free" to help to lift up the poor people, and then heard that this was what some were
    capable of, I guess I'd be a wee bit annoyed.


  • #60
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    What has this to do with the Niall Mellon Trust? I'm confused.

    My theory.....
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=72516326&postcount=37


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  • #61
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    walshb wrote: »
    Oh, I was just wondering what he would think about it, that is all. After all Paddy's hard work trying to better the lives of the poor black people in the townships, and then to hear that this is how they can behave.


    Eh? Thats like saying lets stop all aid to everywhere as you can be sure there are bad apples amongst them. What happens amongst a few people is not representative of all people, but I am guessing you already know that.


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