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Happy 'National Fish and Chips Day' everyone.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Im starving reading this:(
    '' Off ta chippy wid ye so ''

    I've never heard one n' one outside Dublin, these crazy Dubs :)

    But they've a better one.
    They don't order a bag of chips, they just ask for a single.
    In Dublin a single is a bag of chips
    Still is ? Good to know some sayings haven't changed :)
    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Yeah I know that. But it originally came from lads pointing at the menu and saying "Wan of them and wan of them" because the Italian lads in the chippers didn't always understand the Dublin lads if they asked for anything more complicated.

    I'm talking about back in the 50's here not in recent times. That's why it's called a 1 and 1.
    Lol's , Ah that's right and the Italians learned Dubinlin'eek' very quickly to :)

    Guill wrote: »
    Yeh, when you open the paper your nose nearly gets burnt off your face....sswweeeeetttt!
    Oh.. memories it's all to upmarket now with proper bags and wrapping paper ,well in England they do which is home to the newspaper /fish n chips industry although you'll find a few of the older chippies still use newspaper tabloids


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭Chris P. Bacon


    There is only one chipper in Waterford doing it "The Marian",and while his chips are nice the fish isnt,and its way over priced for the small portion you get,so i can only imagine the tiny bits of fish people will be getting today for half price.

    Italian chippers are the nicest in the country for everything besides fish,if you want proper fish n chips you have to go to an Irish owned chipper that cooks them in lard and not oil,the only two in Waterford are " Johnny Walkers" and "Dooleys".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭Chris P. Bacon


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    Nothing like a cheap 'meal' for people who would normally have no intention of buying this food.

    The marketing behind this is genius.

    Couldn't agree more,its like good Friday in chippers the places do be packed by people who only go when they think they have to, or there is an offer on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    Nothing like a cheap 'meal' for people who would normally have no intention of buying this food.
    Everybody loves a bargain , It's nutritious and a nice change from a Subway sandwich .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    Nothing like a cheap 'meal' for people who would normally have no intention of buying this food. The marketing behind this is genius.

    True. Haven't been to a chipper in a long, long time, and I've been thinking about nothing else all day since I heard it on the radio this morning. Can almost smell it......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Absurdum wrote: »
    when izza your dolmio day

    What's-a matter you? Gotta no respect.

    Ah, shaddap-a you face!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    What's-a matter you? Gotta no respect. Ah, shaddap-a you face!

    I know it was you Fredo. You broke my heart. You broke my heart!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Gunsfortoys


    Absurdum wrote: »
    mamma mia!

    Half price lasagne would be much better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    After the queues last year think I will give it a miss. And there are about 8/10 chippers around me and the queues were out the door and around the corner - madness for a few scaldy chips!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭neil_hosey


    embassy grill in ballsbridge: 6.25 for a smoked cod chips and a drink... not amazingly priced but was nice!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    neil_hosey wrote: »
    embassy grill in ballsbridge: 6.25 for a smoked cod chips and a drink... not amazingly priced but was nice!

    Was that after the half price cut? :confused: It would usually be €12.50? Jokers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭neil_hosey


    prinz wrote: »
    Was that after the half price cut? :confused: It would usually be €12.50? Jokers.

    yeah. thats including the reduction. bit of a joke alright!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    it is D4 tho

    I got mine (less drink) in Libero's Deansgrange for €4.25


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭neil_hosey


    it is D4 tho

    I got mine (less drink) in Libero's Deansgrange for €4.25

    yeah true but i dont think they are that pricey normally.. ill check later though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,417 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    What? - 12.50 for a one and one - gtfo !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Smoked Cod & Chips for €3.50 plus I won a can of Club Orange on a scratch card!

    Nyom, nyom, nyom!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    A question nobody has ever been able to give me an answer to... Why are so many chippers run by Italians?

    Documentary on the subject was shown in the IFI in 2008. Members of the first Italian family to open a Chippers attended, was excellent.

    You can watch a small clip free here, but it costs €6 to download it.


    Here's a directory of all Chip Shops doing today's offer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Anyone know if Beshoff's are doing this deal? I don't think they did last year.. stingy fcukers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Anyone know if Beshoff's are doing this deal? I don't think they did last year.. stingy fcukers!

    I doubt Beshoff's are members of ITICA myself. *They aren't Italians*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    prinz wrote: »
    I doubt Beshoff's are members of ITICA myself. *They aren't Italians*

    Aye.. I should have read the OP =p I didn't know it was only applicable to Italian chippers


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,018 ✭✭✭Badgermonkey


    Find your local participant:

    http://itica.ie/chipper_directory

    In Ireland, the first fish and chips were sold by an Italian immigrant, Giuseppe Cervi, who had stepped off an America-bound ship at Cobh and walked to Dublin. He started by selling fish and chips outside pubs from a handcart. He then found a permanent spot in Great Brunswick Street (now Pearse Street). His wife Palma would ask customers "Uno di questa, uno di quella?" This phrase (meaning "one of this, one of the other") entered the vernacular in Dublin as "one and one", which is still a common way of referring to fish and chips in the city.[7]
    [edit]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_and_chips


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭123balltv


    €4.25 chips and a huge smoked cod bargain keep me full for the day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    Anyone know if Beshoff's are doing this deal? I don't think they did last year.. stingy fcukers!

    Ivan Beshoff, the founder, was one of the survivors of the mutiny on the Battleship Potempkin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭ronaneire


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    Smoked Cod & Chips for €3.50 plus I won a can of Club Orange on a scratch card!

    Nyom, nyom, nyom!

    Same but mine was €4.15 :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭Doyler92


    Consumers munched an incredible 65,000lb of fish and €360,000 pounds of potatoes.


    ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Just to clarify , most Dubs are aware of the term but for those who aren't if you ask for a one or one ( or wan and wan ) in an Italian chippy in Dublin, you are asking for a fish and chip meal and as AnonoBoy rightly said ,the term was first used by Dubs back in the 50s so as to make the newly arrived, non- speaking English Italians understand what they wanted from the menu ie '' one of these and and one of those '' . ( or one of deese and one of dose )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,417 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    The full sceal -Irish indo today -

    It could have easily been a culinary catastrophe. So today, on National Fish and Chips Day, we should be thankful for the lucky twist of fate that sparked our 125-year love affair with the Italian chipper.
    Be grateful because back in the 1880s, Giuseppe Cervi, the man who introduced us to the Italian takeaway, had very different ideas when it came to tantalising Irish taste buds.
    The young Italian arrived in Cobh, or Queenstown as it was known back then, after mistakenly disembarking on the final stopover of an American-bound boat. After watching his American Dream set sail, Giuseppe turned and set out on foot to find his fortune in Ireland instead.
    After walking the long and rocky road to Dublin, he worked in the city as a labourer intent on earning enough money to buy a coal-fired cooker and handcart to go into business selling roasted chestnuts.
    While fish and chestnuts would have been unlikely to catch on, we were spared having to find out thanks to a small but highly significant mistake young Giuseppe made while selling his fare outside the pubs of Dublin.
    Legend has it that one day instead of a chestnut he mistakenly roasted a potato and quickly realised the Irish knew a good spud when they tasted one. The course of history had thankfully changed and Giuseppe soon opened Ireland's first fish and chip shop on Great Brunswick Street (now Pearse Street) beside Trinity College.
    Giuseppe ran the chipper with his wife, Palma, whose lack of English gave Dubliners a phrase still in use today.
    When customers arrived at the cash register to pay Signora Cervi would point to the menu and ask, "Uno di questo, uno di quello?" or "One of these, one of those?"
    Walk into any Italian chipper over a century later and ask for a "one and one" and you'll be served fresh cod and chips.
    By 1909 the steady march of the chipper had begun and there were 20 fish and chip shops in Dublin, serving a population of just 290,000.
    "But it was not an instant hit," says Peter Borza, of the Irish Traditional Italian Chipper Association (ITICA) whose parents came to Ireland in the 1950s.
    "There was about 50 chip shops in Ireland going in to the 1930s. But it was after World War II when fish and chips really took off."
    It was then the local chipper flourished and began its spread nationwide. Soon surnames such as Borza, Macari, Cafolla and Apriles became synonymous with one thing throughout Ireland -- fish and chips.
    However, Ireland's Italian chipper families have one unique characteristic. They all come from a tiny village nestled between Rome and Naples, called Val di Comino, whose population today is just over 2,000.
    "It was a pretty amazing place," says Conor Brennan from Clontarf in Dublin, who stumbled across the town while holidaying in Italy a number of years ago.
    "We started to notice Irish registration plates on a lot of the cars as we were walking along the street. Then we passed by these old Italian men playing chess in the square and suddenly one of them cursed in a broad Dublin accent. It was then we discovered that many of the families, after working in Ireland, come back home here to retire."
    Times had always been tough in Val di Comino. There was little income to be made through farming and after the turmoil that the World Wars had caused many decided to up-root and take their chances elsewhere.
    "The first wave of Italians came to Ireland in the early 1800s and were mainly artisans and stone masons that worked on building the houses of Georgian Dublin and big houses around Ireland," says Borza.
    "But it was really from the early 1950s and onwards when 95% of the almost 6,000 Italian community living in Ireland arrived here. The reason my parents and the other Italian families chose Ireland was because it's a family-based Catholic country, so it's very like Italy in that way. Italians have the same temperament as the Irish. We love our food and drink, we love to argue and shout and we love talking."
    Many of the Italians who journeyed to Ireland witnessed the success of fish and chip shops as they travelled through London, where the first chipper opened on Cleveland Street in London's East End in 1860. The advent of trawler fishing in the 1950s increased the availability of fresh fish and the popularity of fish and chips soared.
    The sons and daughters of the Italian immigrants are intent on securing the legacy their parents worked so hard to create.
    Now, the 200 members of the ITICA want to remind the nation why even with fast food chains, Chinese takeaways, Indian Balti houses and pizza and pasta in wide supply, we still come back to fish and chips.
    Go to an ITICA chipper today and you'll only pay half price.
    "I believe we have soaked up the impact of the stiff competition," says Borza. "The local Italian chipper is still a cornerstone of the local community in cities and towns throughout Ireland.
    "In an era of faceless multinationals people can walk into their local chipper where the owners will most likely know their name. Today that is something unique."
    While a firm part of the local community, the Italians here never forget their roots and often meet in the Phoenix Park for picnics on Sundays, where they talk business and share family gossip.
    "We also go backwards and forwards to Italy," says Borza. "We celebrate St Patrick's Day there and we have an Irish festival every year. And many still have a hand in running the family business."
    However, while obviously proud of their Italian and Irish heritage, how would they react if Giovanni Trapattoni managed a miracle and guided Ireland to the World Cup Final where they faced Italy?
    "Now that's a difficult one!" laughs Borza. "But thankfully to cover all eventualities, I always wear a jersey that is half Irish and half Italian. So depending on who wins I'd be hip-hip hooraying in English or Italian!"
    However, Ireland's Italian chipper families have one unique characteristic. They all come from a tiny village nestled between Rome and Naples, called Val di Comino, whose population today is just over 2,000.

    I think this is fascinating


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