Enda Kenny Speech

Pauleta · 24-05-2011 12:27PM

Is Ray D'Arcy broadcasting from abroad or has he emigrated yet?

Enda's job was to sell Ireland. He did it very well. Job done.

ninebeanrows · 24-05-2011 12:30PM

Ray Darcy, what a pathetic little man.

Has he not left yet.

In fairness to Enda, whatever his speech was sculpted from it was good for a change.

Don't hate something just for the sake of it.

Give credit where credit is due.

PrinceMax · 24-05-2011 12:34PM

Pauleta wrote: »

Enda's job was to sell Ireland. He did it very well. Job done.

He did a good job of selling Ireland alright. Remember he sold it down the river when he voted for the bank guarantee

Rantan · 24-05-2011 12:45PM

Weathercheck wrote: »

Ray Darcy, what a pathetic little man.

Has he not left yet.

In fairness to Enda, whatever his speech was sculpted from it was good for a change.

Don't hate something just for the sake of it.

Give credit where credit is due.

poor ray - he's not that bad....
Agree with you on enda though, never a fan but growing to like him more. Part of me is a little embarassed by him, weirdly in a good kind of way, like an uncle who tries too hard to be "cool" at the weddings but is sound beneath it all.. he comes across kind of naieve and harmless, imagine how either of the last pair of blitherin' idiots would have sounded delivering an important speech like that?? I thinnk he did a great job and I dont think it helps to nit pick on the minor details. Does anyone really think he didn't expect Obama would recognise his own speech? Imitation being the greatest form of flattery imo..

Onion11 · 24-05-2011 01:07PM

Fair Play to Enda Kenny, I thought it was great. Yes, sometimes it may have been slightly cringey, but overall it was refreshing to hear the leader of the country address the people in an emotional and encouraging manner at this current time of doom and gloom. Go Inda... words I thought I'd never say!

AnonoBoy · 24-05-2011 01:08PM

I'm glad we have a slim taoiseach again.

Yup - I'm that shallow.

Paracore · 24-05-2011 01:14PM

Weathercheck wrote: »

Ray Darcy, what a pathetic little man.

Has he not left yet.

In fairness to Enda, whatever his speech was sculpted from it was good for a change.

Don't hate something just for the sake of it.

Give credit where credit is due.

I suggest you take you're own advice then so...

Guill · 24-05-2011 01:15PM

<sighs>

Another Ray bashing thread.

Deise Tom · 24-05-2011 01:16PM

Eastcoastryan wrote: »

Has anyone noticed that Enda Kennys speech yesterday was almost word for word copied from a speech Obama gave in Chicago.

Check out the first 30 seconds of both videos below??

If this was intentional, then surely it should have been flagged to the media, alot of the paper analysed the speech, did they know some of it was Obamas own words?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTGZHmiHlRc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jll5baCAaQU

It's actually 50 seconds in on the Enda Kenny speech

Is the man so stupid that he did not think he, or whoever wrote/presented him with the speech would not be found out. Brian Cowan may not have been very media friendly, now it appears that Enda cant write an orgional speech or he does not know someone that can do it for him.

What was all the shouting for yesterday as well. Did he think we could not hear him. Well YES WE COULD. And was there a need to talk up President Obama. Did he think we did not know who he was.

_feedback_ · 24-05-2011 01:16PM

Guill wrote: »

<sighs>

Another Ray bashing thread.

Sighs?

Ray, it has to be you?

Deise Tom · 24-05-2011 01:18PM

feelingstressed wrote: »

35 minutes lads, wear that jersey with pride, the whole parish is watching ye

Enda has a career as a GAA coach when he is finished in politics

Is Enda any relation to Jon Kenny. - Remember his talk to the under 12 or 13 team.

Magic Eight Ball · 24-05-2011 01:19PM

Was it just me or did Enda Kenny's speech remind anyone else of Hitler at Reichstag?

Guill · 24-05-2011 01:20PM

elviscostello wrote: »

Sighs?

Ray, it has to be you?

Hi buddy!

TheUsual · 24-05-2011 01:21PM

Blueshirts just found a new leader. Lets March !!

My name is URL · 24-05-2011 01:22PM

I reckon he done it on purpose as an homage to Obama. Either that or his speech writer was having a laugh.

Regardless.. it's easy to get psyched up in front of a crowd of tens of thousands and come across as energetic and passionate. Lets wait and see if he carries that energy and enthusiasm with him the next time he meets with Sarkozy and Merkel

Sergeant · 24-05-2011 01:25PM

It was a perfectly adequete speech, delivered with passion and enthusiasm. Kenny has impressed me so far; I'd even go so far as to say I'm beginning to warm to the chap.

Dyr · 24-05-2011 01:45PM

My name is URL wrote: »

I reckon he done it on purpose as an homage to Obama. Either that or his speech writer was having a laugh.

Regardless.. it's easy to get psyched up in front of a crowd of tens of thousands and come across as energetic and passionate. Lets wait and see if he carries that energy and enthusiasm with him the next time he meets with Sarkozy and Merkel

Send Gerry "apprentice grim reaper" Kelly in first to see if he can sh**t them up a bit: "Did I ever tell youse about the time I shot a man in the face?"

Conor_1978 · 24-05-2011 01:46PM

RTE news, Fine Gael are denying any of it was copied, it was pure coincidence apparently that whole paragraphs were word for word from Obama inauguration speech.. absolute disgrace, at least have the good grace to admit you screwed up, looks even more of a tool now denying it.. and thats hard..

I thought biffo was the worst taoiseach ever and we couldn't sink any lower.... Guess I was wrong..

Logical Fallacy · 24-05-2011 01:46PM

Sure Enda did the same on Paddy's Day in the States.

Besides, neither speech was written by the person who delivered it.

ninebeanrows · 24-05-2011 01:49PM

Conor_1978 wrote: »

RTE news, Fine Gael are denying any of it was copied, it was pure coincidence apparently that whole paragraphs were word for word from Obama inauguration speech.. absolute disgrace, at least have the good grace to admit you screwed up, looks even more of a tool now denying it.. and thats hard..

I thought biffo was the worst taoiseach ever and we couldn't sink any lower.... Guess I was wrong..

Hah, you're totally wrong.

They are not denying it, they have said they modelled it on his speech and are not hiding it.

Big Nasty · 24-05-2011 01:55PM

I had to laugh at some of it, especially Inda's, eh, enthusiasm - but he did a great job in fairness!:)

PrinceMax · 24-05-2011 01:55PM

Didn't FG 'model' their website on the BBC website a few years ago? Also, it seems they modeled their manifestos for the past decade on Fianna Fail manifestos.

heybaby · 24-05-2011 01:59PM

For a guy who has been a politician for 30 years Enda Kenny simply has no clue. What we saw yesterday was a poorly choreographed episode where the Obama's came on stage in the middle of Enda Kennys' speech. What followed was 5 minutes of blustering almost Hitler-like vein popping shouting of a speech which word for word Obama had given several years previously in Chicago, all the while the Obama's are standing embarrassingly right behind Kenny. In short, Kenny should have cut the speech short to facilitate Obama's early arrival on stage.

Kenny overdid the passion in front of a global audience to the point that he no longer looked like a patriotic statesman but purely maniacal, again Kenny has misjudged things. Surely after 30 years Kenny could employ someone to show him how to present himself in public, he's a pr guru's dream, as our new Taoiseach, kenny should be being lauded for a passionate yet measured speech in 'his own words' and not the 'we'll fight them on the beaches' speech in the words of the man standing right behind him.

Obama isnt perfect himself but the easy charm, the good looks, the charisma and the ability to think on the spot and articulate leave many other politicans floundering. We could only dream of having a politician and leader amongst our ranks, instead when Ireland most needed radical change we elect into power a party with a party leader who himself underwent a leadership challenge not so long ago and who has been a member of the dail for 36 years. The best thing that can be said of Enda Kenny is that he's not Brian Cowen but he sure as hell will never be a Barack Obama.

mikom · 24-05-2011 02:02PM

I would have given anything for Obama to shout out "Loud noises" from behind Kenny while he was in mid flow.

_feedback_ · 24-05-2011 02:03PM

I'm by no means Indas biggest fan, but for the love of all that's holy - seriously, if you think that he 'stole' the speech and tried to pass it off as his own (despite the fact that the "original artist" was standing behind him) you must be deluded. . . .

QuadLeo · 24-05-2011 02:05PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWyuHAiA6dk

I think it's way to obvious to be plagiarism. Surely they're not that stupid.

heybaby · 24-05-2011 02:14PM

QuadLeo wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWyuHAiA6dk

I think it's way to obvious to be plagiarism. Surely they're not that stupid.

We are talking about irish politicians here...the very fact that he didnt reference Obama in the speech is sloppy at best and misleading at worst.

Barlett · 24-05-2011 03:14PM

They've come out and said it was entirely deliberate. He spoke well, a hell of a lot better than I've heard any other Irish leader speak in the last decade.

AnonoBoy · 24-05-2011 03:15PM

RTE News wrote:

A Government spokesman said there was 'no question of plagiarism'.

He said that all references in Mr Kenny's speech to the earlier address by President Obama were 'entirely deliberate' and were done to honour the President.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0524/kennye.html

Rantan · 24-05-2011 03:23PM

heybaby wrote: »

We are talking about irish politicians here...the very fact that he didnt reference Obama in the speech is sloppy at best and misleading at worst.

ah come on...he was standing right beside obama, do you not think Obama would not immediately recognise his own words and have the cop on to realise that Enda was giving him a nod in his own speech? Do you really think that Obama would have stood there thinking " the cheek, this guy has just ripped off my own inaugauration speech - in front of me!" i would give him more credit that and also enda for having the guts to do it in the first place...how is it misleading??

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