Beef, Pork, Lamb and processed meat now give you cancer.

23-05-2011 09:49AM #1

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/23/cut-red-meat-cancer-researchers

Cancer experts have issued a fresh warning about eating red and processed meat after "the most authoritative report" on the subject blamed them for causing the disease.

The World Cancer Research Fund (WCRF) is advising people to limit their intake of red meats such as beef, pork and lamb, and to avoid processed meat such as ham and salami altogether. "Convincing evidence" that both types of meat increase the risk of bowel cancer means people should think seriously about reducing how much they eat, it recommends.

Joke.. If my body has evolved over millions of years to eat meat, I'm going to eat it. If it gives me cancer, tough luck.. I was clearly destined to get what is obviously a very natural illness.

Really hate this scaremongering in the media.. What are we allowed to eat nowadays that wont give us cancer.

chin_grin · 23-05-2011 09:51AM

Reading threads about cancer, gives you cancer!

23-05-2011 09:53AM

Wouldn't be surprised if some phd student came out with it, the media printed it and people believed it.

TaraFoxglove · 23-05-2011 09:53AM

Did we evolve to eat processed meat? :eek: Wow, and they say evolution isn't forward-looking!

Sinfonia · 23-05-2011 09:54AM

What's the point of living a few extra years if ya can't tuck into a juicy steak or a burrito?

23-05-2011 09:54AM

Again, seeing what you want to see Tara. It clearly says beef, pork and lamb aswell.

23-05-2011 09:55AM

Everything gives you cancer

TaraFoxglove · 23-05-2011 09:56AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Again, seeing what you want to see Tara. It clearly says beef, pork and lamb aswell.

So you... didn't type 'processed meat' then?

23-05-2011 10:00AM

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

So you... didn't type 'processed meat' then?

This quote shows I already acknowledged that I typed it.

"It clearly says beef, pork and lamb aswell."

Are you baiting me into a banning because of the fatties thread?

TaraFoxglove · 23-05-2011 10:01AM

Deleted User wrote: »

This quote shows I already acknowledged that I typed it.

Obviously we can handle meat in its natural form.

The jury is out on processed meat because we didn't evolve to handle them.

Not baiting at all.

23-05-2011 10:03AM

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

Obviously we can handle meat in its natural form.

The jury is out on processed meat because we didn't evolve to handle them.

Not baiting at all.

The article and research says we can't handle meat in it's natural form.. That's where my issue is. Saying something we've eaten for millions of years is giving us cancer.

slowburner · 23-05-2011 10:03AM

Deleted User wrote: »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/23/cut-red-meat-cancer-researchers

Joke.. If my body has evolved over millions of years to eat meat, I'm going to eat it. If it gives me cancer, tough luck.. I was clearly destined to get what is obviously a very natural illness.

Really hate this scaremongering in the media.. What are we allowed to eat nowadays that wont give us cancer.

Your body hasn't evolved over millions of years to eat vast quantities of salt, sugars, sulphides/sulphates and nitrates. There weren't that many E numbers around when we came down from the trees, either.
Nor is your body designed to eat meat every day. It is designed to eat meat, occasionally, and the meat was the reward for all the energy expended in the hunt.
I love meat but I'm taking this research seriously.

Dravokivich · 23-05-2011 10:05AM

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

Obviously we can handle meat in its natural form.

The jury is out on processed meat because we didn't evolve to handle them.

Not baiting at all.

limit their intake of red meats such as beef, pork and lamb, and to avoid processed meat such as ham and salami altogether

The article also references unprocessed meat.

Adyx · 23-05-2011 10:06AM

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

Obviously we can handle meat in its natural form.

The jury is out on processed meat because we didn't evolve to handle them.

Not baiting at all.

Obviously we can't handle it since it also causes cancer apparently. Personally, I'll take my chances with both.

Hookah · 23-05-2011 10:06AM

Deleted User wrote: »

The article and research says we can't handle meat in it's natural form.. That's where my issue is. Saying something we've eaten for millions of years is giving us cancer.

I think we may have evolved to eat only little bits of meat (processed meat aside), not eat meat twice or 3 times a day.

reprazant · 23-05-2011 10:08AM

Deleted User wrote: »

The article and research says we can't handle meat in it's natural form.. That's where my issue is. Saying something we've eaten for millions of years is giving us cancer.

The article says that we can handle it as long as you don't eat too much of it.

This is not new news.

Even as a kid, my folks always said that you should eat a varied diet eating lots of veg, fish and white meat and that was over 20 years ago.

You saying that the article says we should avoid red meat is rubbish scaremongering.

Tea_Bag · 23-05-2011 10:10AM

im having a nice juicy steak tonight in celebration of this new found research, and im not having any side salad or veg either.

Life isnt worth living without meat and milk.

TaraFoxglove · 23-05-2011 10:11AM

Dravokivich wrote: »

The article also references unprocessed meat.

Yes, I know that.

The OP said we evolved to eat meat. Well, we haven't evolved to eat meat in processed form.

slowburner wrote: »

Your body hasn't evolved over millions of years to eat vast quantities of salt, sugars, sulphides/sulphates and nitrates. There weren't that many E numbers around when we came down from the trees, either.
Nor is your body designed to eat meat every day. It is designed to eat meat, occasionally, and the meat was the reward for all the energy expended in the hunt.
I love meat but I'm taking this research seriously.

This, basically. Especially the bolded bit.

Adyx wrote: »

Obviously we can't handle it since it also causes cancer apparently. Personally, I'll take my chances with both.

Like, Hookah said, small amounts of unprocessed meat are probably fine.

RachaelVO · 23-05-2011 10:12AM

I'm not a huge fan of beef, but holy ****e, Lamb, love the stuff, oh and proper corned beef hmmmmmm. *big sigh*

Mind you, my uncle was a coroner, and I remember him telling me that red meat stays in the bowl for quiet a long time (can't remember how long now) and that it basically rots in your bowel. Now I could be quoting him slightly wrong, but I don't think so. If that is the case, that might be the connection!

slowburner · 23-05-2011 10:17AM

Tea_Bag wrote: »

im having a nice juicy steak tonight in celebration of this new found research, and im not having any side salad or veg either.

Life isnt worth living without meat and milk.

It's hard to get into salads & veg when the stuff that's widely available tastes like ***te.
But then, most of the meat we get is full of ***te.
Grow your own meat and hunt your own veg - that's what I say.

neil_hosey · 23-05-2011 10:22AM

as long as i can still eat ma friieeed chicken... who gives a shieeet!

thebigbiffo · 23-05-2011 10:29AM

i always have at least 6 pints of Guinness after i eat any type of red meat - this helps evacuate all the nasty meat without the stigma and unpleasantness surrounding bulimia...

slowburner · 23-05-2011 10:44AM

Sure we know all this stuff is bad for us - why else would we like it?

Opelfruit · 23-05-2011 10:45AM

bluewolf wrote: »

Everything gives you cancer

Not everything. Yesterday I was reading a report that beef, pork & lamb did not give you canc....wait, scratch that, it seems that today they do. We'll just have to wait until tomorrow and see what the next report says.

slowburner · 23-05-2011 10:45AM

thebigbiffo wrote: »

i always have at least 6 pints of Guinness after i eat any type of red meat - this helps evacuate all the nasty meat without the stigma and unpleasantness surrounding bulimia...

Have 6 before and 6 after - that way the meat never touches your stomach.

Duggy747 · 23-05-2011 10:45AM

Jeez, every single thing that surrounds us and we eat / drink gives us cancer. This bottle of Lucozade will give me cancer, that glass of water will give me cancer, the Pringles I ate last night will give me cancer, that red-headed kid I saw the other day will give me cancer.

How did we ever get this far as a race when everything surrounding us gives us cancer?

What's next, too much oxygen gives you cancer?

TaraFoxglove · 23-05-2011 10:49AM

In fairness though, people are saying "everything gives you cancer" but some things are much more carcinogenic than others, as in some things will almost certainly bring about carcinogenesis.

HungryJoey · 23-05-2011 10:55AM

And they say redbull gives you wings.

AnonoBoy · 23-05-2011 11:15AM

Vegetarian propaganda.

slowburner · 23-05-2011 11:17AM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Vegetarian propaganda.

You never know. Who/what paid for the research?

AnonoBoy · 23-05-2011 11:21AM

slowburner wrote: »

You never know. Who/what paid for the research?

Funded by the LGTMAC* Foundation I heard.

*Lisa's Going To Marry A Carrot

Beef, Pork, Lamb and processed meat now give you cancer.

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