Anyone else find the whole Leinsturrr thing incredibly annoying?

latenia wrote: »

How many people attended Leinster matches 20 years ago? I'm guessing a lot less than 1,000.

So what? I was one of those 1,000 (and less sometimes) and I'm glad to see lots more fans arriving.

latenia wrote: »

You'd want to be a special kind of moron to be into your province (even more so than the morons who are into their counties.)

Or a special kind of cycnic to care if people want to support a team of their choice, for whatever reason.

latenia wrote: »

If Irish teams played on the same terms as other European countries we'd be seeing Shannon and Old Belvedere getting beaten 50-0 every game in the European Club Cup.

Any idea of the rugby playing populations of, say, Tolouse, Northampton, Leicester and Leinster. It's an enormous sport in England and South Wales, huge in France, much bigger than Ireland, so Irish provinces are a better comparison than clubs in terms of fanbase, playing population and finance, which also makes their acheivments all the greater.

thegreengoblin wrote: »

I will admit straight away that I am not a Munster fan. I'm not rugby fan full stop, I find the elitist thing a load of ****e. But even allowing for that, Leinster's fans do my head in. Just getting it off my chest like.

What about them does your head in ? Ya need to explain particulars when your badmouthin people.

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

Any idea of the rugby playing populations of, say, Tolouse, Northampton, Leicester and Leinster. It's an enormous sport in England and South Wales, huge in France, much bigger than Ireland, so Irish provinces are a better comparison than clubs in terms of fanbase, playing population and finance, which also makes their acheivments all the greater.

So following this logic, UEFA should allow a Brittany or Provence team to compete in the champions league because French football clubs aren't very good? Why not let the Georgian or Romanian senior national teams in the Heineken Cup to give them a chance?
I would question the sanity of anyone who thinks there is some kind of affinity between people from Dublin, Wexford and Longford that makes following Leinster together equivalent to 30,000 Scousers (plus however many foreigners) cheering on Liverpool at Anfield.

latenia wrote: »

So following this logic, UEFA should allow a Brittany or Provence team to compete in the champions league because French football clubs aren't very good? Why not let the Georgian or Romanian senior national teams in the Heineken Cup to give them a chance?
I would question the sanity of anyone who thinks there is some kind of affinity between people from Dublin, Wexford and Longford that makes following Leinster together equivalent to 30,000 Scousers (plus however many foreigners) cheering on Liverpool at Anfield.

Ah, good old reductio ad absurdem, a pathetic attempt at "logic" there. Anyhoo, my point, as you well understood but chose to ignore 'cos it didn't suit your argument, is that the comparison between clubs like Old Belvedere and the likes of Tolouse is not valid, you weren't comparing like for like. It's also a professional game, so clubs/teams of comparable standing compete in the EHC, as in other rugby competitions, or in other sports. To mirror your argument, EPL teams started out in factories, villages, schools and army regiments; should they just stay as those to suit you, to seek your approval?

FWIW, the provinces of Ireland are older than Ireland as a country, so there's as much sense to allegience to any of them as to any other allegience, such as to Liverpool, or a national team. More to the point though, people can support whoever they like, in any sport - you're not the arbiter of who people can support.

If you're going to pretend to knowledge and debate something, grow up have more manners than to question people's sanity for disagreeing with you and knowing more about something than you do. Or keep being a silly, anonymous keyboard warrior, your call.