Anyone else find the whole Leinsturrr thing incredibly annoying?

thegreengoblin

I will admit straight away that I am not a Munster fan. I'm not rugby fan full stop, I find the elitist thing a load of ****e. But even allowing for that, Leinster's fans do my head in. Just getting it off my chest like.

NUTZZ

IBTL. some people never learn...

The_Kew_Tour

Jaysus if that's what annoys you then your fecked

thegreengoblin

NUTZZ wrote: »

IBTL. some people never learn...

What does IBTL stand for?

Kevin Duffy

Don't listen or watch then. Plenty of other things for you to begrudge and be cynical about.

galwayrush

I enjoyed it, because Connacht are now in next season's HL.:cool:

thegreengoblin

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

Don't listen or watch then. Plenty of other things for you to begrudge and be cynical about.

I didn't listen or watch.

NUTZZ

thegreengoblin wrote: »

What does IBTL stand for?

I Believe That's Ludicrous...

Deus Ex Machina

Yes, Leinster rugby stands on a pedestal of annoyance above all the other pedestals of annoyance of other rugby teams.

thegreengoblin

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

Don't listen or watch then. Plenty of other things for you to begrudge and be cynical about.

I'm honestly not a begrudging or cynical type. But there is just something about Leinster Inc that raises the hackles within me. Maybe it's because they and their fans all have more money than me.

Kevin Duffy

thegreengoblin wrote: »

I didn't listen or watch.

Píssing and moaning about something you haven't seen or heard so. Good idea, let me know how this approach to life works out for you.

Kevin Duffy

thegreengoblin wrote: »

I'm honestly not a begrudging or cynical type. But there is just something about Leinster Inc that raises the hackles within me. Maybe it's because they and their fans all have more money than me.

Ah, I see, I should have added bitter to the possibilities.

thegreengoblin

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

Píssing and moaning about something you haven't seen or heard so. Good idea, let me know how this approach to life works out for you.

What are you on about? I didn't listen to or watch the match today. I wouldn't generally listen to or watch Leinster fans but some things just can't be helped.

uberwolf

thegreengoblin wrote: »

Just getting it off my chest like.

lol

Kevin Duffy

thegreengoblin wrote: »

What are you on about? I didn't listen to or watch the match today. I wouldn't generally listen to or watch Leinster fans but some things just can't be helped.

I'll have a little lol, thanks. So you didn't see or hear it today, or generally, but it's existence moves you to start threads on the 'net. Good man, keep it up.

Son Of A Vidic

Why are you annoyed specifically? My team is Connaught and I'm delighted to see Leinster win. Their victory flies the flag for Ireland and isn't great to see Irish success amongst all the negativity.

Lu Tze

Fairplay to leinster! Didn't get to watch the game where i am, just got ht and ft score and it seems they turned around an insurmountable margin.

Yours faithfully,

Non affiliated Rugby fan

thegreengoblin

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

I'll have a little lol, thanks. So you didn't see or hear it today, or generally, but it's existence moves you to start threads on the 'net. Good man, keep it up.

Yeah I'm interested to hear if other people share my feelings on the subject. I know you certainly don't but don't let it bother you too much.

mike65

It was much better when Munster ruled Cardiff.

Voodoomelon

I'm from Leinster and they wreck my head too.

laugh

Leinster's players and fans are from all over the province, Leinster and it's fans do not match the stupid stereotype or anything you will read in a Ross O' Carroll Kelly book.

The Waltzing Consumer

I am delighted when any of our provinces do well. I just wish those damn footballers could take a page out of our rugby players book and play with the same passion and determination for both club and nation.

Kevin Duffy

thegreengoblin wrote: »

Yeah I'm interested to hear if other people share my feelings on the subject. I know you certainly don't but don't let it bother you too much.

See, I am a Leinster fan, so I'm one of the people you're whining about and I will therefore feel free to address your post. They did an incredible thing today, but if you don't care, don't like it or your head is done in by it, then just don't watch or listen and your problem will be solved.

As for the elitist tag, I'm "working class" and so are all my family and I've never been part of any elite, but, like a lot of people, you haven't a clue what you're talking about with your ridiculous generalisations.

The Waltzing Consumer

laugh wrote: »

Leinster's players are fans are from all over the province, Leinster and it's fans do not match the stupid stereotype or anything you will read in Ross O' Carroll Kelly book.

Well as the OP has pointed out, he does not watch or listen when Leinster are playing, so it does sound like he has read about stereotypes and has created some fake annoyance.

For Forks Sake

laugh wrote: »

Leinster's players and fans are from all over the province, Leinster and it's fans do not match the stupid stereotype or anything you will read in a Ross O' Carroll Kelly book.

This is correct.

Can somebody please take this thread out and have it shot?

Kevin Duffy

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Can somebody please take this thread out and have it shot?

Maybe leave it as a sticky for when people to look at when they think about moaning about something they haven't experienced and know nothing about.

thegreengoblin

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

See, I am a Leinster fan, so I'm one of the people you're whining about and I will therefore feel free to address your post. They did an incredible thing today, but if you don't care, don't like it or your head is done in by it, then just don't watch or listen and your problem will be solved.

As for the elitist tag, I'm "working class" and so are all my family and I've never been part of any elite, but, like a lot of people, you haven't a clue what you're talking about with your ridiculous generalisations.

The elitist thing is an established part of rugby in this country. I know many rugby fans who will freely admit that. Sure, there are 'working class' Leinster fans around and there are parts of Ireland where it would be silly to apply the term elitist but a quick look at the schools in Dublin who have rugby teams and those who don't is very enlightening.

For Forks Sake

thegreengoblin wrote: »

The elitist thing is an established part of rugby in this country. I know many rugby fans who will freely admit that. Sure, there are 'working class' Leinster fans around and there are parts of Ireland where it would be silly to apply the term elitist but a quick look at the schools in Dublin who have rugby teams and those who don't is very enlightening.

http://lolpics.se/pics/482.jpg

Kevin Duffy

thegreengoblin wrote: »

The elitist thing is an established part of rugby in this country. I know many rugby fans who will freely admit that. Sure, there are 'working class' Leinster fans around and there are parts of Ireland where it would be silly to apply the term elitist but a quick look at the schools in Dublin who have rugby teams and those who don't is very enlightening.

Would you ever go and ask me hoop kid.

laugh

thegreengoblin wrote: »

The elitist thing is an established part of rugby in this country. I know many rugby fans who will freely admit that. Sure, there are 'working class' Leinster fans around and there are parts of Ireland where it would be silly to apply the term elitist but a quick look at the schools in Dublin who have rugby teams and those who don't is very enlightening.

Vocational Schools all over the Province have rugby teams these days, one of the best players in Europe at the moment is from a small club in Carlow.

kazzdee

galwayrush wrote: »

I enjoyed it, because Connacht are now in next season's HL.:cool:

Finally some chance at real sponsorship and progress, well, hopefully. Really annoys me Connaught are the poor relation. Hope that will change with the spotlight on them too. We can but hope!

Chnandler Bong

galwayrush wrote: »

I enjoyed it, because Connacht are now in next season's HL.:cool:

Heiniken League???

LOL

latenia

How many people attended Leinster matches 20 years ago? I'm guessing a lot less than 1,000. You'd want to be a special kind of moron to be into your province (even more so than the morons who are into their counties.) If Irish teams played on the same terms as other European countries we'd be seeing Shannon and Old Belvedere getting beaten 50-0 every game in the European Club Cup.

Kevin Duffy

latenia wrote: »

How many people attended Leinster matches 20 years ago? I'm guessing a lot less than 1,000.

So what? I was one of those 1,000 (and less sometimes) and I'm glad to see lots more fans arriving.

latenia wrote: »

You'd want to be a special kind of moron to be into your province (even more so than the morons who are into their counties.)

Or a special kind of cycnic to care if people want to support a team of their choice, for whatever reason.

latenia wrote: »

If Irish teams played on the same terms as other European countries we'd be seeing Shannon and Old Belvedere getting beaten 50-0 every game in the European Club Cup.

Any idea of the rugby playing populations of, say, Tolouse, Northampton, Leicester and Leinster. It's an enormous sport in England and South Wales, huge in France, much bigger than Ireland, so Irish provinces are a better comparison than clubs in terms of fanbase, playing population and finance, which also makes their acheivments all the greater.

MungBean

latenia wrote: »

How many people attended Leinster matches 20 years ago? I'm guessing a lot less than 1,000. You'd want to be a special kind of moron to be into your province (even more so than the morons who are into their counties.) If Irish teams played on the same terms as other European countries we'd be seeing Shannon and Old Belvedere getting beaten 50-0 every game in the European Club Cup.

Cant support your province, cant support your county. What can we support? English soccer teams ? By the looks of it your one very special moron yourself.

MungBean

thegreengoblin wrote: »

I will admit straight away that I am not a Munster fan. I'm not rugby fan full stop, I find the elitist thing a load of ****e. But even allowing for that, Leinster's fans do my head in. Just getting it off my chest like.

What about them does your head in ? Ya need to explain particulars when your badmouthin people.

Superbus

latenia wrote: »

How many people attended Leinster matches 20 years ago? I'm guessing a lot less than 1,000. You'd want to be a special kind of moron to be into your province (even more so than the morons who are into their counties.) If Irish teams played on the same terms as other European countries we'd be seeing Shannon and Old Belvedere getting beaten 50-0 every game in the European Club Cup.

Words fail me.

Sure Old Belvedere is a hell of a lot more made up than Leinster.

thegreengoblin

Skunkle wrote: »

What about them does your head in ? Ya need to explain particulars when your badmouthin people.

For a start, the fact that most of them have hopped onto the biggest bandwagon ever in Irish sport. And none of them are embarrassed by it, which makes it even funnier!

hatrickpatrick

It was an INCREDIBLE match. INCREDIBLE.

And here's the thing: If you don't like Rugby, don't watch it. But why begrudge fans who are (deservedly) in an incredibly good mood today?

It's the feckin' Heiniken Cup final. This country needs things to cheer about these days, and you moan about this?!

hatrickpatrick

thegreengoblin wrote: »

For a start, the fact that most of them have hopped onto the biggest bandwagon ever in Irish sport. And none of them are embarrassed by it, which makes it even funnier!

Eh... Generally people who support Leinster, do so because they are FROM Leinster. Total bandwagoners. :rolleyes:

mfceiling

Fair play to them..I'm an Ulster man with a hoarse voice after shouting for the boys in blue.
Feck the begrudgers...

latenia

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

Any idea of the rugby playing populations of, say, Tolouse, Northampton, Leicester and Leinster. It's an enormous sport in England and South Wales, huge in France, much bigger than Ireland, so Irish provinces are a better comparison than clubs in terms of fanbase, playing population and finance, which also makes their acheivments all the greater.

So following this logic, UEFA should allow a Brittany or Provence team to compete in the champions league because French football clubs aren't very good? Why not let the Georgian or Romanian senior national teams in the Heineken Cup to give them a chance?
I would question the sanity of anyone who thinks there is some kind of affinity between people from Dublin, Wexford and Longford that makes following Leinster together equivalent to 30,000 Scousers (plus however many foreigners) cheering on Liverpool at Anfield.

laugh

laugh wrote: »

Leinster's players and fans are from all over the province, Leinster and it's fans do not match the stupid stereotype or anything you will read in a Ross O' Carroll Kelly book.

How many of the starting 15 went to private school?

fryup

is this what you mean OP....:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siqhsuXYO1o

CatFromHue

mfceiling wrote: »

Fair play to them..I'm an Ulster man with a hoarse voice after shouting for the boys in blue.
Feck the begrudgers...

you're right, feck the begrudgers.

id a hoarse voice in 99 too:cool:

Kevin Duffy

latenia wrote: »

So following this logic, UEFA should allow a Brittany or Provence team to compete in the champions league because French football clubs aren't very good? Why not let the Georgian or Romanian senior national teams in the Heineken Cup to give them a chance?
I would question the sanity of anyone who thinks there is some kind of affinity between people from Dublin, Wexford and Longford that makes following Leinster together equivalent to 30,000 Scousers (plus however many foreigners) cheering on Liverpool at Anfield.

Ah, good old reductio ad absurdem, a pathetic attempt at "logic" there. Anyhoo, my point, as you well understood but chose to ignore 'cos it didn't suit your argument, is that the comparison between clubs like Old Belvedere and the likes of Tolouse is not valid, you weren't comparing like for like. It's also a professional game, so clubs/teams of comparable standing compete in the EHC, as in other rugby competitions, or in other sports. To mirror your argument, EPL teams started out in factories, villages, schools and army regiments; should they just stay as those to suit you, to seek your approval?

FWIW, the provinces of Ireland are older than Ireland as a country, so there's as much sense to allegience to any of them as to any other allegience, such as to Liverpool, or a national team. More to the point though, people can support whoever they like, in any sport - you're not the arbiter of who people can support.

If you're going to pretend to knowledge and debate something, grow up have more manners than to question people's sanity for disagreeing with you and knowing more about something than you do. Or keep being a silly, anonymous keyboard warrior, your call.

laugh

RoverJames wrote: »

How many of the starting 15 went to private school?

The game of rugby in Ireland is more established in private schools, even in Munster the schools that contribute the players are private or exclusive. The game is spreading though, the number of registered players has increased a lot with the recent success of Leinster, Munster and Ireland.

Plenty of the people in private schools are not very wealthy, their parents chose to invest in their children's future at the cost of other expenditure.

Leinster players I can think of it that are not Dublin/Foreign born:

Gordon Darcy - Wexford
Jamie Heaslip - Kildare (born Israel)
Shane Horgan - Meath
Leo Cullen - Wicklow
Devin Toner - Meath
Sean O' Brien - Carlow
Mike Ross - Cork
Eoin Reddan - Limerick
Fergus McFadden - Kildare
Luke Fitzgerald - Wicklow
Rob Kearney - Louth

punchdrunk

I'd rather watch Rugby union than bog ball anyday!

Super-Rush

Egg chasing forum would be your best bet.