Come on, Ireland

'' put em under pressure ''

Cathaoirleach wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6M8an_XKL8

When are the Irish going to stand up as a people and refuse be enslaved by the ****-fúcking-bankers and bureaucrats?

Why are we not standing up to likes of Barroso, Merkel and Sarkozy?

The fact is that Ireland, Greece and Portugal will never be able to pay back the massive loans given to us.

The Irish people should have revolted against this ridiculous bailout and followed Iceland and defaulted.

There have been huge protests in Madrid the past few days about the dreadful rate of unemployment in Spain. They are fedup with the lies from their current government about the true situation of the Spanish economy.

Spain is heading towards a bailout, and when that happens, I hope the entire Euro farce will collapse so that we can get back to being independent states with trading and border agreements between us, like the way the EU was originally envisaged.

Forget standing up to Merkel and Sarkozy. Quite frankly I'd hate to be in their shoes. They'd much rather not have to deal with all these bailouts as they're quite unpopular on their home fronts. When you work hard for your money you don't want to see it getting squandered on someone who doesn't deserve it and that's how we look like to them: we had a boom, we squandered it, and now we want again more money.

But what I don't understand is why don't we go after our leaders who got us here in the first place. Seriously, why isn't Bertie in prison? Fitzpatrick? The term "angry mob" has an unforntunate negative connotation, as this is exactly what we need. Why don't we hold them COMPLETELY accountable for where we are and instead focus on the only people that are actually dealing with the problem i.e. the European Union?

Why is the Irish public not hungry for blood? That's what I don't get.

prinz wrote: »

That'd be too much like common sense for the usual mouthpieces. We've never been good at looking inside, it's always been a traditional approach of blaming outsiders.

Well, why don't we try a new approach?

For starters, let's start acting like we own this country... 'cause we kinda do. So let's start telling leaders what to do, instead of being told what's going to be done. Like what? Well, that water tax thing, bring it on, but we also demand that pensions for TDs be revoked. They don't need it. Revoke Bertie's pension as well. We are well within our power to do it, as the shareholder of Ireland Inc. Many in fact make more than enough money in the post-politics career anyway, it's not like they need it anyway.

Like, do you realise how much money we're spending on really non-essential things? Ireland is about to go bankrupt, and if not, damn close to being bankrupt. GM was allowed to restructure to get out of bankruptcy and reneg on numerous bad deals it signed. Well... why don't we? Politicians will not do it out of the goodness of their hearts, they have to be MADE to do it.

ilovesleep wrote: »

@whackawhacka

completely agree to what you wrote. I believe we'd be able for whatever bitter pills we'll be forced to swallow but only if we see the people who got us here held accountable and punished accordingly.

No doubt someone will be along now to tell us that we voted FF and that we got we wanted. as if we are supposed to be economists when voting. As if we were outside the dail every budget day protesting and shouting - GIVE US MORE. As if it was our responsibility to know what was going on inside of the banks.
At the end of the day FF were put in government to do a job and they exploited their position of power for their own benefit.

So why did we vote same old same old Fine Gael into power? Do we have any reason to believe that it will be any different? Dame Enda just said anything he thought we wanted to hear, in order to get elected, and is now doing more of the same as FF did. The problem in Ireland, compared to, say, Sarkozy, is that Sarkozy is AFRAID of the voting public. He can only act as long as he believes the people are behind him. In Ireland, we don't seem to be reacting to the fact that we now owe €40,000 extra per person, and virtually nobody protested. Were the same to happen in France I believe that guillotine would be getting a fresh layer of paint.

Why aren't we cutting politicians' pensions as retribution? Why are we not DEMANDING, loudly on the streets, that civil service unions take the same kind of pay cuts the rest of the population has taken? You know, exercising our democratic rights to demand where exactly is our money going?

We are being taken for a ride.