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Israel murder 12 people throwing stones

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭Mark27


    Yes Nodin i believe Palestine should be allowed to protest over what they believe is the occupation of their land. I also believe Israel should be allowed protest or defend their natural and religious right to the land.

    shedweller - since you are quoting wikipedia sources,maybe you should read about Israel owning the land long before any Muslim conquests took it over


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭shedweller


    squod wrote: »
    I wouldn't expect to read half this stuff on stormfront. Someone lock this up. Enough hatred from the lunatics for one night.
    Yeah, God forbid somebody might actually talk about this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭Mark27


    Predalien - Fair enough, but what if that group kept throwing stones and kept coming closer and closer to your property with the intent of keeping on going? What do you then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭squod


    Predalien wrote: »
    Can't see how people reason that those throwing stones should be shot.
    1. Person 'A' has more rights than person 'B'.
    2. Quote messed up justification for your hatred.
    3. Put the blame on someone else for your actions
    4. Rinse and repeat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭Mark27


    squod - I dont go onto StormFront website because i dont like reading the content on it. Why are you on this thread?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 946 ✭✭✭Predalien


    Mark27 wrote: »
    Predalien - Fair enough, but what if that group kept throwing stones and kept coming closer and closer to your property with the intent of keeping on going? What do you then?

    They have stones not AK47s, non-lethal force by one of the best trained and equipped armies in the world should be perfectly adequate to nullify any threat faced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,795 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    squod wrote: »
    I wouldn't expect to read half this stuff on stormfront. Someone lock this up. Enough hatred from the lunatics for one night.

    Come on its After Hours what did the OP expect.

    We make jokes about pedophiles and rapists on here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Mark27 wrote: »
    ...................
    shedweller - since you are quoting wikipedia sources,maybe you should read about Israel owning the land long before any Muslim conquests took it over

    ....please fuck, don't tell me you're going down that road. For starters, Islam is religion. Secondly many Palestinians are the descendants of christianised,then Arabised Jews.
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/05/000509003653.htm
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11935342?dopt=Abstract


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    I think we all know that the IDF have absolutely no considerations for human life. They are scum, and should be treated with the contempt that they deserve. The Israeli embassy should be fúcked out of Ireland until they can learn to act like mature, civilized humans instead of barbaric, religious zealots.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭squod


    Mark27 wrote: »
    squod - I dont go onto StormFront website because i dont like reading the content on it.

    Remarkably similar themes covered in this thread. You sure you don't?
    Mark27 wrote: »
    Why are you on this thread?

    Preaching hate is fucked up. I dunno what god you worship. My God tells me (not literally) to preach love and tolerance.
    Or they could live side by side, in an equal and fair society.

    +1


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 946 ✭✭✭Predalien


    Mark27 wrote: »
    I also believe Israel should be allowed protest or defend their natural and religious right to the land.

    There is no such thing as either a natural or religious right to the land.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    squod wrote: »
    1. Person 'A' has more rights than person 'B'.
    2. Quote messed up justification for your hatred.
    3. Put the blame on someone else for your actions
    4. Rinse and repeat

    Care to tell the rest of us what you're on about, or is working it out a competition?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Come on its After Hours what did the OP expect.

    We make jokes about pedophiles and rapists on here.

    Can't diss the Jews though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Prediction:
    UNSC will draft a resolution condemning this incident.
    Every nation will vote in favour.
    The US will veto.
    US president Obama will later make a speech about freedom, democracy, and civilized behaviour, and condemning the likes of Libya, Syria, et al.

    (Don't get me wrong, I'm absolutely appalled by the behaviour of these two nations and I of course side with the Arab Spring, but I don't accept double standards. All humans are created equal. If there are rules, they are rules for EVERY country. You can't let someone break the rules just because they're on your team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭Mark27


    squod - Whos your god...John Lennon?? That 4 point riddle of yours a new song or something? ;)

    Nodin - I know Islam is a religion but they are not the original owners of the Land of Israel. Its the Jews that were there first. And they believe they were promised the land by god, werther or not you share their religious view's is another matter. They are in my opinion, completly justified in what they do.

    And why are the Palestines sending their kids into battle?? For PR purposes to make Israel look like similar savages to themselves?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Mark27 wrote: »
    Nodin - I know Islam is a religion but they are not the original owners of the Land of Israel. Its the Jews that were there first. And they believe they were promised the land by god, werther or not you share their religious view's is another matter. They are in my opinion, completly justified in what they do. ?

    Did you read this?
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/05/000509003653.htm

    Why are they justified in occupying land outside their borders?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Mark27 wrote: »
    I know Islam is a religion but they are not the original owners of the Land of Israel. Its the Jews that were there first. And they believe they were promised the land by god, werther or not you share their religious view's is another matter. They are in my opinion, completly justified in what they do.

    I don't give a f*ck what the Zionists believe they were promised in some lame-duck fairy-tale. It doesn't make they claim valid, or just.

    If anyone thinks that a 2000 year old book defines who has the right to land, they should have their head examined, and be sent to a mental institute for being completely and utterly void of any element of rationality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Mark27 wrote: »
    And why are the Palestines sending their kids into battle?? For PR purposes to make Israel look like similar savages to themselves?

    They are considerably less well off and desperate than their Jew 'neighbours'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    lastlaugh wrote: »
    They are considerably less well off and desperate than their Jew 'neighbours'.

    We could do without the "jew bashing", thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,727 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    dlofnep wrote: »
    I don't give a f*ck what the Zionists believe they were promised in some lame-duck fairy-tale. It doesn't make they claim valid, or just.

    If anyone thinks that a 2000 year old book defines who has the right to land, they should have their head examined, and be sent to a mental institute for being completely and utterly void of any element of rationality.

    Even if they did use that argument, the Philistines were there first, before the Israelites kicked them off the land, so really the land is not the Israelis its the Philistines whose descendants are inclusive of some Palestinian people.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,795 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    lastlaugh wrote: »
    Can't diss the Jews though.

    Sure you can but you'll be called on it liked if you dissed the muslims.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Nodin wrote: »
    We could do without the "jew bashing", thanks.

    Oops, what should I have said instead of Jew 'neighbours'?

    Israeli buddies?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 181 ✭✭cookies221


    Your ignorance and bigotry leaves me speechless.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=68387941

    So now you resort to petty ad hominem tactics, complete with the obligatory rollseyes smiley. How about you admit you were wrong when you said
    america hasnt been stealing mexican land

    You're just mad that I called you out on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,795 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    lastlaugh wrote: »
    Can't diss the Jews though.
    lastlaugh wrote: »
    They are considerably less well off and desperate than their Jew 'neighbours'.
    lastlaugh wrote: »
    Oops, what should I have said instead of Jew 'neighbours'?

    Israeli buddies?

    Do you want to get something off your chest?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    lastlaugh wrote: »
    Oops, what should I have said instead of Jew 'neighbours'?

    Israeli buddies?

    'Israeli' something.

    You are aware that the occupying IDF forces contain Druze and muslim Bedouin members......?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭Mark27


    dlofnep - WTF?? I dont think i want to even waste my energy responding that comment

    Nodin - I did read it and it makes some good points. However does that give Palestines the right to claim they are Muslim, but they are decendants from the jews so they have to right to occup Israel.

    i mean in fairness, israel is a democratic gem of the middle east. I have visited the country twice myself. Why do people hate them so much?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭CrackisWhack


    cookies221 wrote: »
    So now you resort to petty ad hominem tactics, complete with the obligatory rollseyes smiley. How about you admit you were wrong when you said

    You're just mad that I called you out on it.



    :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

    Go back over the posts, I never said that, you have qouted two different posters there. Actually I wouldn't be suprised if you waited a while untill you thought I was gone so you could get the last dig in:pac:

    And yes I qouted your idiotic post, just so people can see the type of bigot they're dealing with it, I doubt many will take you seriously now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Mark27 wrote: »
    Nodin - I did read it and it makes some good points. However does that give Palestines the right to claim they are Muslim, but they are decendants from the jews so they have to right to occup Israel.?

    I'm not sure what thats meant to mean.....however...

    For one thing, they aren't occupying Israel. It helps show the idea that it was "Israels first" is historical nonsense. The Palestinians were expelled from what is now the state of Israel in 1947/1948, hence the protests today.
    Mark27 wrote: »
    i mean in fairness, israel is a democratic gem of the middle east. I have visited the country twice myself. Why do people hate them so much?

    You're aware of the occupation and settlement of the West Bank, Arab East Jerusalem and the Golan, and the treatment of the population therein?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,727 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    Mark27 wrote: »
    i mean in fairness, israel is a democratic gem of the middle east. I have visited the country twice myself. Why do people hate them so much?

    I think it has something to do with the collective punishment of the Palestinian people, illegally invading Lebanon, or slaughtering peace activists in international waters, or building an illegal wall, or killing children, denying people a right to return to East Jerusalem, disenfranchising Israeli Arabs.


    And many more.....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    Do you want to get something off your chest?

    It just sickens me that the Jews carry out such atrocities and show so little regard for life.

    That's all.

    Carry on.


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