Micheal Moore, fat clown or champion of truth?

lastlaugh · 13-05-2011 02:08PM #1

I noticed somebody posted a link to a Micheal Moore video recently.

Personnally, I can't stand him. I watched Bowling for Columbine when it was out and found him most annoying.

I think he a big fat mess who needs to shave and get some exercise.

Charlton Heston would have been well within his rights to kick his fat ass out the door for setting him up like he did.

Also that free gun when you open a bank account thing was staged.

Anyway, what do you think of him and his documentories?

Archeron · 13-05-2011 02:10PM

I would say he is one smelly fecker.

Pauleta · 13-05-2011 02:11PM

He is a left wing loon

whiteonion · 13-05-2011 02:13PM

Yup, America is a capitalist paradise. Forget everything that Michael Moore says. Nothing to see move along. Forget that many parts of America look like a third world country.

SharpshooterTom · 13-05-2011 02:13PM

Greatest American alive today.

I have him on twitter, love hearing from.

He may come across as hypocrite and an anti-american to some but asks some very important questions many americans refuse to ask. He highlights it brilliantly.

old hippy · 13-05-2011 02:13PM

I'd trust the man far more than any of the most moderate right wingers to come out of that country.

jam_mac_jam · 13-05-2011 02:13PM

I like him, dumbs down a lot of his arguements but makes some valid points. His healthcare one is good.

Dogdaysareover · 13-05-2011 02:14PM

I like him! I'm not naive enough to believe everything he writes or says, but he's good entertainment....

SharpshooterTom · 13-05-2011 02:15PM

lastlaugh wrote: »

Charlton Heston would have been well within his rights to kick his fat ass out the door for setting him up like he did.

Also that free gun when you open a bank account thing was staged.

Anyway, what do you think of him and his documentories?

Charlton Heston was the head of the NRA, the association that was promoting gun culture at rallys nearby right after columbine, and many other shootings across the country. Can't he answer tough questions? Moore was well in his rights to ask him, since nobody else does probably.

Craebear · 13-05-2011 02:16PM

Fox news told me not to trust him, so feck him tbh.

dark crystal · 13-05-2011 02:16PM

You sound like you're more annoyed at the way he looks, than anything he has to say, tbh.

Anyway, I've always found his stuff very interesting. He's certainly passionate about what he believes in.

Didn't he manage to get Wal-Mart to stop selling guns? Great result, if true.

Personally, I'd rather watch a thousand Moore documentaries than a single Morgan Spurlock one.

mgmt · 13-05-2011 02:19PM

I'd go with fat clown. Him and Al Gore are both morons.

OutlawPete · 13-05-2011 02:20PM

lastlaugh wrote: »

I noticed somebody posted a link to a Micheal Moore video recently.

That would be me (:)) but just to show that a bank was giving away free guns with accounts. Actually, they were giving them away by post and he duped them into make it look like they were given them away within the bank. I have no time for him, he's a far left, feminist sympathizing, own sex disparaging clown as far as I'm concerned. His CNN interview regarding Bin Laden was a disgrace, he should be ashamed of himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_Ebup5kE88

Here's a decent docu on the guy also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drfWkNQDVOQ

NIMAN · 13-05-2011 02:21PM

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

I like him, dumbs down a lot of his arguements but makes some valid points. His healthcare one is good.

He's a bit of both. Simplifies stuff too much for me, and like most doc makers, selectibely use clips to suit their argument.

As for the one about the medicine, I found myself shouting at him when he kept saying that the UK had a 'totally free health system in the NHS'. As a tax-payer in NI, I can tell you its far from free. I pay hefty National Insurance contributions to fund it. And it is also a crumbling system that is not fit for purpose.

But why let the truth get in the way of a good story?

Duggy747 · 13-05-2011 02:22PM

I've never liked the fact how he exaggarates to get some of his points across, especially with some clever editing. Stretch the truth to the tell the truth? No different from what a lot of documentary makers do but it's something I've never liked from anyone, practically voids a point to me.

I enjoyed alot of his early documentaries though, especially Roger & Me.

Clint Eastwood wanted to punch him after what he did to his friend, Charlton Heston. :pac:

old hippy · 13-05-2011 02:22PM

mgmt wrote: »

I'd go with fat clown. Him and Al Gore are both morons.

Can you expand on that less than convincing argument, please?

KeithAFC · 13-05-2011 02:22PM

Oh my, the George Galloway of America.

jam_mac_jam · 13-05-2011 02:24PM

NIMAN wrote: »

He's a bit of both. Simplifies stuff too much for me, and like most doc makers, selectibely use clips to suit their argument.

As for the one about the medicine, I found myself shouting at him when he kept saying that the UK had a 'totally free health system in the NHS'. As a tax-payer in NI, I can tell you its far from free. I pay hefty National Insurance contributions to fund it. And it is also a crumbling system that is not fit for purpose.

But why let the truth get in the way of a good story?

I know, he does simplify too much. In the case of the NHS I was having the same thoughts, its not all perfect, I am sure Canada isnt either.

petes · 13-05-2011 02:25PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4fQNZmefM4

old hippy · 13-05-2011 02:25PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

Oh my, the George Galloway of America.

Says the Ian Paisely of boards.ie?

KeithAFC · 13-05-2011 02:26PM

old hippy wrote: »

Says the Ian Paisely of boards.ie?

Nope. Don't believe in god.;)

whiteboy · 13-05-2011 02:26PM

very interesting dude

mgmt · 13-05-2011 02:26PM

old hippy wrote: »

Can you expand on that less than convincing argument, please?

Well he is grossly overweight. And both Moore and Gore argue their points through lies and propaganda.

Biggins · 13-05-2011 02:27PM

He's not perfect but at least he is a voice that is still opposing spun versions of events by state heads and bodies.
As long as there is someone like him to question and someone to stand up for those that need help, who am I to say the man is totally wrong and say he should stop?

actuallylike · 13-05-2011 02:28PM

lastlaugh wrote: »

Personnally, I can't stand him. I watched Bowling for Columbine when it was out and found him most annoying.

I think he a big fat mess who needs to shave and get some exercise.

lastlaugh wrote: »

Anyway, what do you think of him and his documentories?

Interesting, you ask what do we think about his documentaries and you just go on about his appearance and speaking manner. What did you think of the content of his documentaries or was he too annoying and fat to understand?

As annoying or overweight as you think he may be, have a look at this speech he gave in Wisconsin, amazing speaker!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgNuSEZ8CDw

old hippy · 13-05-2011 02:29PM

mgmt wrote: »

Well he is grossly overweight. And both Moore and Gore argue their points through lies and propaganda.

What has a person's weight got to do with anything?

These lies and propaganda; would that be according to Republicans, Tea Party types and PNAC folk?

whiteonion · 13-05-2011 02:29PM

Of course Michael Moore simplifies things, most Americans lack the proper education to understand information unless you dumb it down to the lowest common denomitator.

dark crystal · 13-05-2011 02:30PM

mgmt wrote: »

Well he is grossly overweight. And both Moore and Gore argue their points through lies and propaganda.

What on earth has his weight got to do with his abilities as a film-maker?

What lies have he and Gore told exactly?

Biggins · 13-05-2011 02:30PM

old hippy wrote: »

What has a person's weight got to do with anything?

These lies and propaganda; would that be according to Republicans, Tea Party types and PNAC folk?

...And Fox news to boot!
If someone like Moore is willing to at least question their schite, I say fair play.
...At least one more is doing it.

mgmt · 13-05-2011 02:31PM

old hippy wrote: »

What has a person's weight got to do with anything?

These lies and propaganda; would that be according to Republicans, Tea Party types and PNAC folk?

Stop playing political football. I said something about your star striker, now I must be a republican/tea party.

sock puppet · 13-05-2011 02:31PM

Gnobe wrote: »

Greatest American alive today.

I have him on twitter, love hearing from.

He may come across as hypocrite and an anti-american to some but asks some very important questions many americans refuse to ask. He highlights it brilliantly.

Well I suppose American leaders lie enough so what's the harm if a filmaker does it so he can make more money?

Gnobe wrote: »

Charlton Heston was the head of the NRA, the association that was promoting gun culture at rallys nearby right after columbine, and many other shootings across the country. Can't he answer tough questions? Moore was well in his rights to ask him, since nobody else does probably.

Damn right. It's time we started getting tough on the sick and infirm.

Micheal Moore, fat clown or champion of truth?

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