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Will we ever see a black Taoiseach/President in Ireland?

  • 11-05-2011 11:03PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭


    Nobody ever thought it would happen in the US so what are the odds of it happening here?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭Blink182rock


    5/1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,090 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    To be fair we dont even have a black td! Maybe in the future but dats a long way off!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    The current mayor of Portlaoise is black.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    To be fair we dont even have a black td! Maybe in the future but dats a long way off!
    Maybe not that far off!

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/asylumseeker-from-nigeria-becomes-the-first-black-irish-mayor-455338.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭jimpump


    To be fair we dont even have a black td! Maybe in the future but dats a long way off!

    im thinkin maybe 50-100 years


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    we only get fat, ugly, greedy ones usually


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    Well we have a much smaller black population than America. I'd say it'll be a while, but not because of racism or anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭The Scientician


    I'd say it's possible within the next 30 years. It depends on how many black TDs get elected and if any of them work their way to the top of their respective parties. I suppose a black President would be more probable because you can be elected to that post without necessarily being a big deal politically. In so far as "native" Irish people are racist I imagine it would be easier for a black candidate with an Irish name and/or one Irish parent to get to either position.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 409 ✭✭celj


    Can't see it happening for a long time.

    "Sure dares tha queaaaaaarrrreeee fella tinkin he can be president,dare'll be no queaaaaaarrrreeees in the aras if I can help it"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭Derfil


    In time its a possibility rather than a probability. Right now the population of black people just aint big enough. Hard to see where a population explosion of black people would come from to make it a probability.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    If this question was asked 25 years you could replace black for woman.

    No doubt we will have people of other races in high government and state positions before long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Dangerous Man


    I'd hope not!
























    joke.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Get that Irish guy from Shawshank Redemption.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Get that Irish guy from Shawshank Redemption.
    Red?
    (Morgan Freeman)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,799 ✭✭✭✭The Princess Bride


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    we only get fat, ugly, greedy ones usually

    If you mean TDs, I disagree.... have you seen Sinn Féin's Pearse Doherty, he's a fine thing ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭jimpump


    Derfil wrote: »
    In time its a possibility rather than a probability. Right now the population of black people just aint big enough. Hard to see where a population explosion of black people would come from to make it a probability.

    you obviously never been to blanchardstown in dublin!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Predator_


    jimpump wrote: »
    Nobody ever thought it would happen in the US so what are the odds of it happening here?


    With angle Saxon extreme liberalism anything is possible. Hopefully this disgusting ideology is destroyed before anything like that happens though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    America was discovered in 1492.

    Blacks first arrived in America in 1607.

    So, it took 404 years until a black man was elected president.

    <<Not racsism, Fact!>>
    Before about 1985, the only black people in Ireland were students of the Royal College of Students, or member of the Diplomatic Corps.

    So maybe around the year 2385 we might have one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    baz2009 wrote: »
    The current mayor of Portlaoise is black.

    That fraud? He set this cause back a long time
    Came to Ireland claiming asylum from religious persecution in 2000

    Yet he was a driver on the tube in London and then got residency in Ireland as his child was born here, oh how so convenient.
    From wikipedia (yes I know the inaccuary claims)
    "Adebari says he travelled to Ireland directly from Nigeria, via Paris, and never worked or lived in London at any time."
    What happened to claiming asylum in the first safe country you stop in?

    Is France not safe? And if for years there were no direct flights between Ireland and Nigeria how did it happen so many ended up here?

    Does nobody else remember the heavily pregnant ladies landing in Ireland and boom, citizenship for the child.
    Until Michael McDowell got a referendum passed with a large majority to stop the nonsense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 935 ✭✭✭samsemtex


    If this question was asked 25 years you could replace black for woman.

    No doubt we will have people of other races in high government and state positions before long.

    Well thats not really relevant since 50% of the population are women. How many are black?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    pamela izevbekhai for taoiseach


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Doc


    Biggins wrote: »
    Red?
    (Morgan Freeman)

    He's Irish in the book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Predator_ wrote: »
    With angle Saxon extreme liberalism anything is possible. Hopefully this disgusting ideology is destroyed before anything like that happens though.

    Are you saying Irish society is liberal to the point of extremism? Irish society where I can't buy a beer to take home after ten, where a woman can't undergo an abortion, where our age of consent is among the highest in the world? Yep, we're a real bastion of demon liberalism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    When the children of all immigrants grow up, their will be plenty of them active in politics, personally I see the immigrants taking a greater role in driving this country forward, considering we cant do it right anyway, iv no doubt they will do a better job too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Are you saying Irish society is liberal to the point of extremism? Irish society where I can't buy a beer to take home after ten, where a woman can't undergo an abortion, where our age of consent is among the highest in the world? Yep, we're a real bastion of demon liberalism.

    So abortion is "liberal" now is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    Sure didn't we have Bertie, the Irish are the blacks of Europe. Dubliners are the blacks of Ireland. The Northside Dubliners are the blacks of Dublin.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    syklops wrote: »
    America was discovered in 1492.

    Blacks first arrived in America in 1607.

    So, it took 404 years until a black man was elected president.

    <<Not racsism, Fact!>>
    Before about 1985, the only black people in Ireland were students of the Royal College of Students, or member of the Diplomatic Corps.

    So maybe around the year 2385 we might have one.

    LOL, good one. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    charlemont wrote: »
    When the children of all immigrants grow up, their will be plenty of them active in politics, personally I see the immigrants taking a greater role in driving this country forward, considering we cant do it right anyway, iv no doubt they will do a better job too.

    Which begs the obvious question, why didnt they stay at home to improve their own country if they are so much better than us?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    charlemont wrote: »
    personally I see the immigrants taking a greater role in driving this country forward, considering we cant do it right anyway, iv no doubt they will do a better job too.

    Ah self hate and low self confidence, now there is a real Irish trait.
    You'd almost think there was no corruption or crime elsewhere in the world....
    Or Africa and Mugabe or Idi Amin or Charles Taylor or even terrorists in South Africa are examples to follow

    We are an independent nation for 90 years and even early governments took great risks and succeeded liked Ardnacrusha.
    Less of the self hate


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭TangyZizzle


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Which begs the obvious question, why didnt they stay at home to improve their own country if they are so much better than us?

    Because they were either children or had not been born yet, lol.


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