ISPCC overstepping the mark a bit!

RachaelVO · 11-05-2011 08:41PM

They didn't go too far at all. I seen this earlier today and I was nearly crying. Frankly they didn't go far enough. That's happening in homes up and down the country, and it fcuking well needs to be taken in hand.

A few years ago, when my daughter wasn't even 2, we were playing and I was crawling up and down the sitting room chasing her. She ran to the living room door, but I was too fast and she didn't have time to open it, she turned around in stitches laughing. I just stopped and thought, jesus, there is another little girl not getting to the door quick enough but then getting the head slapped off her and she's crying not laughing. It had such an effect on me, totally turned my stomach!

steddyeddy · 11-05-2011 08:42PM

xaoifsx wrote: »

that kid is in the new movie hanna! or they just look very very alike!!

This advert is horrible though.. I know its to raise awareness but still.. Some people are just sick..

I agree with you I would call it horrible its very hard to watch.

krudler · 11-05-2011 08:43PM

Liamario wrote: »

It's not adults that i'm concerned about, it's children seeing it.

what if they had friends they know are going through the same thing? might encourage them to call

11-05-2011 08:43PM

Jesus what a stupid ad, could they have looked any more amateur

steddyeddy · 11-05-2011 08:44PM

bluewolf wrote: »

Jesus what a stupid ad, could they have looked any more amateur

I dont think your going to find many method actors that will star in videos about child abuse!

phasers · 11-05-2011 08:46PM

It shouldn't be shown during dinner ffs, it should be on after 9pm.

Mountainsandh · 11-05-2011 08:46PM

Good, but for after 9pm. Why should my happy, not beaten kids be watching that ? They would be fair traumatised to see that happens to other kids, and it's not like they (my kids) can or should do anything about it at 3 and 5.

redz11 · 11-05-2011 08:46PM

I don't see the point of this ad.

Abusive parents/guardians are not going to change their habits on seeing this ad. Of course anyone who beats a kid knows that it's wrong - they just don't give a crap.

Other adults, on seeing this ad, are going to be horrified. But come on, give people some credit - I would like to think that anyone seeing a child being beaten like that would report it - they wouldn't need an ad to tell them that this sort of thing is wrong?!

And I would imagine that if a child saw this ad ... well, mightn't it sort of "normalise" this behaviour? Make them think it's acceptable, since it's being shown on TV?

I just can't see who this ad is being aimed at, or how it could help?!

LizT · 11-05-2011 08:46PM

bluewolf wrote: »

Jesus what a stupid ad, could they have looked any more amateur

Yeah I see what you're saying. They should have had the father beat the shíte out of him for real :rolleyes:

steddyeddy · 11-05-2011 08:55PM

redz11 wrote: »

I don't see the point of this ad.

Abusive parents/guardians are not going to change their habits on seeing this ad. Of course anyone who beats a kid knows that it's wrong - they just don't give a crap.

Other adults, on seeing this ad, are going to be horrified. But come on, give people some credit - I would like to think that anyone seeing a child being beaten like that would report it - they wouldn't need an ad to tell them that this sort of thing is wrong?!

And I would imagine that if a child saw this ad ... well, mightn't it sort of "normalise" this behaviour? Make them think it's acceptable, since it's being shown on TV?

I just can't see who this ad is being aimed at, or how it could help?!

Actually a lot of child abusers dont see their behaviour as wrong in fact they often blame the child for their actions. The fact is a lot of people in ireland didnt report abuse and some education was needed. It has already brought awareness to the issue as a thread has been opened about it.

Wolfe Tone · 11-05-2011 09:00PM

What an amateur, you dont hit the face

Logical Fallacy · 11-05-2011 09:10PM

To be honest that ad is a lot more effective than any of the black and white photography, child in a dank environment **** that is normally used around this issue. The stuff i just mentioned allows you to remove yourself from things, think that the issue of child abuse is one of a class that is lower than you.

There you have a kid of likes like any other kid in Ireland in a house that could be any house in Ireland. The shock lies in the fact that within the ad the abuse happens so casually, it's not a once off or an "accident", which is often how people try and justify lamping their kid around.

Great ****ing ad.

Rocket19 · 11-05-2011 09:15PM

redz11 wrote: »

I don't see the point of this ad.

Abusive parents/guardians are not going to change their habits on seeing this ad. Of course anyone who beats a kid knows that it's wrong - they just don't give a crap.

Other adults, on seeing this ad, are going to be horrified. But come on, give people some credit - I would like to think that anyone seeing a child being beaten like that would report it - they wouldn't need an ad to tell them that this sort of thing is wrong?!

And I would imagine that if a child saw this ad ... well, mightn't it sort of "normalise" this behaviour? Make them think it's acceptable, since it's being shown on TV?

I just can't see who this ad is being aimed at, or how it could help?!

What I think they should be doing is encouraging people to report it. Yes, its shocking to watch, but we already know it happens.
I think what they should be doing is getting the message out there that you have to do something about it.

My friend was telling me about this guy on the bus who was dragging his little kid (about 3) around, shouting and swearing at her.
Finally, one person (a lady) said something to him and told him "how dare you, this isn't acceptable, this is your child", etc.

Apparently he just ripped into the woman, shouting at her agressively.
No-one said anything. No-one backed backed her up. No-one else stood up for the little girl. The guy wasn't kicked off the bus. Nothing was done.

That's what has to change.

WindSock · 11-05-2011 09:24PM

The ad is highlighting the fact that children don't have the same rights as adults. Good ad, and it doesn't hurt to Have it before the water shed.

Galway K9 · 11-05-2011 09:26PM

joshrogan wrote: »

Better than them trocaire ads that come on when you're having food, they put me right off what i'm having.

Thats intentional.:D

Orando Broom · 11-05-2011 09:31PM

Galway K9 wrote: »

Thats intentional.:D

People should send trocaire food instead of money.

Oh wait, you can't pay exhorbitant wages with food.

Storminateacup · 11-05-2011 09:35PM

OMG thats really awful. I know it isnt real but I just want to take that little boy and mind him, keep him safe. Thats really sad.

People who do that to children are scum. They're lower than scum. They are to society as what camel vomit is to gourmet food.

steddyeddy · 11-05-2011 09:45PM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

To be honest that ad is a lot more effective than any of the black and white photography, child in a dank environment **** that is normally used around this issue. The stuff i just mentioned allows you to remove yourself from things, think that the issue of child abuse is one of a class that is lower than you.

There you have a kid of likes like any other kid in Ireland in a house that could be any house in Ireland. The shock lies in the fact that within the ad the abuse happens so casually, it's not a once off or an "accident", which is often how people try and justify lamping their kid around.

Great ****ing ad.

+1

Child abuse is not confined to a paticular class there is a myth that it is confined to the "lower class" (I hate the term class).

Gummy Panda · 11-05-2011 09:46PM

That ad angry up the blood :mad:

Sir Gallagher · 11-05-2011 09:59PM

Wow i really wasn't aware of child abuse before this amazing ad(sarcasm).

This ad should really be on at a later time, i'd imagine it's pretty disturbing for children to watch.

jenizzle · 11-05-2011 10:08PM

I wonder how the 'father' felt about filming the ad - couldn't have been easy aiming for the young fella.

Sir Gallagher · 11-05-2011 10:11PM

jenizzle wrote: »

I wonder how the 'father' felt about filming the ad - couldn't have been easy aiming for the young fella.

Lets just hope he wasn't a method actor.

PeterIanStaker · 11-05-2011 10:22PM

That ad made me want to beat the shit out of the "father"

Pauleta · 11-05-2011 11:04PM

Very powerful. That young lad is a great little actor as well.

Squaw Crow · 12-05-2011 02:11AM

People who are giving out about this ad need to get a serious grip on themselves-
People are concerned about having this being shown in the background of a loving family home around a dinner table- this is the reality of the situation - perhaps people feel uncomfortable because they are forced into watching something that they otherwise ignore- the welfare of the abused child comes before those who haven't faced abuse in this case.

orourkeda · 12-05-2011 02:17AM

RachaelVO wrote: »

They didn't go too far at all. I seen this earlier today and I was nearly crying. Frankly they didn't go far enough. That's happening in homes up and down the country, and it fcuking well needs to be taken in hand.

A few years ago, when my daughter wasn't even 2, we were playing and I was crawling up and down the sitting room chasing her. She ran to the living room door, but I was too fast and she didn't have time to open it, she turned around in stitches laughing. I just stopped and thought, jesus, there is another little girl not getting to the door quick enough but then getting the head slapped off her and she's crying not laughing. It had such an effect on me, totally turned my stomach!

a rather unfortunate choice of words

challengemaster · 12-05-2011 03:09AM

Biggins wrote: »

The keys can be replaced - the kid can't!

Did someone miss out on sex-ed when they were younger? :pac:

Mountainsandh · 12-05-2011 06:16AM

Squaw Crow wrote: »

People who are giving out about this ad need to get a serious grip on themselves
the welfare of the abused child comes before those who haven't faced abuse in this case.

Yeah you're right, I will sit my 3 and 5 year old down tonight after Scoobido, and make the situation clear to them. If they don't like it, tough. There are kids that get beaten and surely the least my kids can do is know about it. Spoilt brats growing up in a loving home.
(heavy sarcasm warning)

edit : I will edit my post because in fact I hate using just sarcasm, it doesn't make my point clear enough. My point is this : what are my 3 and 5 year old going to do about the situation ? Should they know about it, even though they live in a loving, peaceful family home ? Can they make a difference to the other child's life at 3 and 5 years old ?

chicken fingers · 12-05-2011 07:07AM

phasers wrote: »

It shouldn't be shown during dinner ffs, it should be on after 9pm.

Don't watch TV during dinner.
peasants.

Squaw Crow · 12-05-2011 09:00AM

Mountainsandh wrote: »

Yeah you're right, I will sit my 3 and 5 year old down tonight after Scoobido, and make the situation clear to them. If they don't like it, tough. There are kids that get beaten and surely the least my kids can do is know about it. Spoilt brats growing up in a loving home.
(heavy sarcasm warning)

edit : I will edit my post because in fact I hate using just sarcasm, it doesn't make my point clear enough. My point is this : what are my 3 and 5 year old going to do about the situation ? Should they know about it, even though they live in a loving, peaceful family home ? Can they make a difference to the other child's life at 3 and 5 years old ?

You have missed my point entirely. - Your kids aren't expected to do anything - how can they possibly? - But what about children who are their age and older who simply do not know that what they experience every day simply isn't right? This ad demonstrates what happens to them doesn't happen to everyone else.
You should care for the welfare of these children and if it means that you'll have to explain things to your kids if they ask questions then so be it. You don't actually have to tell them the graphic truth as that's your decision as their parent. I never once implied your children were spoilt and to imply that that was my intention completely diminishes the experiences of abused children, for them safety and peace and love is not a daily given.

ISPCC overstepping the mark a bit!

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