Heard of a Gardas security concerns for the British queens visit

Wolfe Tone · 10-05-2011 10:22PM

df1985 wrote: »

Are loyalists planning to come down in support of the visit? thatll only add fuel to the already big fire.

They will be down glorying it up Im sure

KeithAFC · 10-05-2011 10:23PM

CommuterIE wrote: »

That's your opinion, but you need to understand that a lot of people in the Republic and indeed the North see a massive injustice in the status quo... I don't want to insult your intelligence, but you are seriously naive if you believe what you say about no legit reason

The majority have spoken commuter. They need to see this.

KeithAFC · 10-05-2011 10:25PM

Another thing, Bottle of Smoke, you said pretty much every cop in the ROI is getting in on this, isn't that just making it easier for dissidents to plant a bomb and blow up something?

bayern282 · 10-05-2011 10:31PM

Worst I can see is a few protests and minor skirmishes involving eirigi types, anything on a larger scale makes us look infantile, it shouldn't be a big deal if the head of a neighbouring non-hostile state visits us, England is to this corner of Europe what Sweden is to Scandinavia, the dominant culture, politically, culturally and linguistically furthermore the English themselves don't have a state, national anthem or seat at the UN, if anyone's oppressed by the Brits and the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha clan it's John Bull !

Am well aware of the reasons for protest, however if you think about what the Germans / Russians did to Poland and the Poles or what the Japanese did in Korea and China, Turks to Armenians and so on, it makes NI and The Troubles look like a schoolyard scrap.

Latchy · 10-05-2011 10:33PM

That a cctv over there I see ? ..........nah cant be

creative100 · 10-05-2011 10:35PM

I'm a little baffled at the fact that users here are willingly unaware of the fact that there is an ongoing conflict in this country, albeit less intense to do with the British presence on this island.

The Queen is the Commander in Chief of the British Forces and represents that occupation.

That in itself is a reason to protest this visit. Everyone knows there will be trouble, why the sheer waste of money. The visit is UTTERLY pointless.

My name is URL · 10-05-2011 10:36PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

Northern Ireland is a different country.

This is a visit to the ROI. So it is a bit different.

This week on Geography with Keith..

same as last week

LizT · 10-05-2011 10:38PM

I hope to God that nothing happens for the country's reputation alone. It's already in tatters as it is and any more trouble will not help.

lugha · 10-05-2011 10:38PM

creative100 wrote: »

I'm a little baffled at the fact that users here are willingly unaware of the fact that there is an ongoing conflict in this country, albeit less intense to do with the British presence on this island.

No. No there isn't.

creative100 wrote: »

The Queen is the Commander in Chief of the British Forces and represents that occupation.

That in itself is a reason to protest this visit. Everyone knows there will be trouble, why the sheer waste of money. The visit is UTTERLY pointless.

What is utterly pointless is the protests, given that the queen has visited this country many times before.

Standard Toaster · 10-05-2011 10:40PM

I think she's fuckin nuts coming over. Something will deffo kick off when she hit Irish soil.

Personally I couldn't give a monkeys what she does as long as it doesn't cost me anything.
May even generate a few quid

TheZohanS · 10-05-2011 10:40PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

The Royal family have come over to Northern Ireland plenty of times and no riots at all. At least nothing that im aware about it. Northern Ireland is a different country though.

This is a visit to the ROI. So it is a bit different.

Your posts are idiotic and you are just a troll. AH doesn't need this sectarian bullshìt for you.

gigino · 10-05-2011 10:43PM

bayern282 wrote: »

Worst I can see is a few protests and minor skirmishes involving eirigi types, anything on a larger scale makes us look infantile, it shouldn't be a big deal if the head of a neighbouring non-hostile state visits us,

+1. Our President went on visits to England many times, and goes on a yearly visit to the Vatican. No big deal made about that. She Invites the head of the neighbouring country back here and if a drunken mob riot and create trouble it reflects bad on us.

KeithAFC · 10-05-2011 10:43PM

TheZohan wrote: »

Your posts are idiotic and you are just a troll. AH doesn't need this sectarian bullshìt for you.

Anything in that post which isn't true?. Lets stay on topic and leave out the nonsense. It is two different countries. Like some one said, by the mere fact there will be protests is partitionist.

creative100 · 10-05-2011 10:46PM

lugha wrote: »

No. No there isn't.

What is utterly pointless is the protests, given that the queen has visited this country many times before.

Ok, there is no conflict. Everyone is perfectly happy that this country is partitioned, sure.

So you don't think the 30m + being spent on the visit is pointless, and god knows what else considering damage is to be expected after riots?

Protesting this visit is legitimate and valid.

Wolfe Tone · 10-05-2011 10:48PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

Anything in that post which isn't true?. Lets stay on topic and leave out the nonsense. It is two different countries. Like some one said, by the mere fact there will be protests is partitionist.

Keith its pretty evident that by posting the likes of the above you are only trying to bait the likes of myself.

Sorry to spoil it though, I aint biting, everyone is fed up seeing the same duel time and time again with no solution or new facts/input.

steve9859 · 10-05-2011 10:53PM

I really don't see much happening during the Queens visit. There'll be no focal point for riots like the Love Ulster parade. All the visits are behind closed doors, right. And if any group tries to organize something themselves somewhere I would like to think that Garda intelligence would know about it. They have effectively taken 150 potential ringleaders off the streets already by keeing them under heavy surveillance

lugha · 10-05-2011 10:54PM

creative100 wrote: »

Ok, there is no conflict. Everyone is perfectly happy that this country is partitioned, sure.

True, many people would (foolishly!) think creating a single island state would be a good idea. But how does that amount to a conflict?

creative100 wrote: »

So you don't think the 30m + being spent on the visit is pointless, and god knows what else considering damage is to be expected after riots?

It is simply daft to protest against a visit by the head of the British state when we have a perfectly good relationship with the British government and the people.

creative100 wrote: »

Protesting this visit is legitimate and valid.

But they don't make sense to someone who does not accept the partitioning of Ireland. If Ireland is one country, visited many times by the queen, why make a big deal about this visit?

KeithAFC · 10-05-2011 10:54PM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Keith its pretty evident that by posting the likes of the above you are only trying to bait the likes of myself.

Sorry to spoil it though, I aint biting, everyone is fed up seeing the same duel time and time again with no solution or new facts/input.

Solution for what? It wasn't me who organised the state visit. It was your president. People saying why is there never any riots in N.I when the Royals visit, look at the obvious reason.

thehairyelbow · 10-05-2011 10:54PM

God save the Queen.:D

gigino · 10-05-2011 10:55PM

creative100 wrote: »

Protesting this visit is legitimate and valid.

if you are a traitor who wants to cost the country millions in extra security costs, and if you want to damage tourism to Ireland.

Our hotels and tourism industry can do with all the positive publicity it can get - we need to project an image of a modern, friendly, tolerant people, not bitter republicans living in the past.

Bottle_of_Smoke · 10-05-2011 10:57PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

The Royal family have come over to Northern Ireland plenty of times and no riots at all. At least nothing that im aware about it. Northern Ireland is a different country though.

This is a visit to the ROI. So it is a bit different.

Rhetorical question my man. If republicans see the whole island as one nation every visit should surely get the same amount of protest.

Another thing, Bottle of Smoke, you said pretty much every cop in the ROI is getting in on this, isn't that just making it easier for dissidents to plant a bomb and blow up something?

They haven't targeted the ROI previously. I don't see why they would. Perhaps be easier for them to rob a bank or something though.

steve9859 · 10-05-2011 10:58PM

creative100 wrote: »

Ok, there is no conflict. Everyone is perfectly happy that this country is partitioned, sure.

So you don't think the 30m + being spent on the visit is pointless, and god knows what else considering damage is to be expected after riots?

Protesting this visit is legitimate and valid.

The 30m is well spent. And any damage to property and irelands reputation is the fault of the rioters, not the Queen, and they should be punished accordingly. Protest peacefully sure, that's your right. But she won't see any of it. The powers that be will keep her well away

overshoot · 10-05-2011 10:59PM

lugha wrote: »

No. No there isn't.

What is utterly pointless is the protests, given that the queen has visited this country many times before.

there is a conflict, ask ronan kerr's parents, the officer in derry who had a gernade (dud fortunately) land at his feet last night (and the 2 kids beside him). its not a major/wanted conflict but it is one none the less and if these people are willing to kill police/army people are deluded to think that they will not have a shot at the queen-whose visit they have publically condemned. (and as i write this i have started fearing for the guards as they have said they are willing to kill anyone they see as colluders.)
& she has not been on republic soil.

creative100 · 10-05-2011 10:59PM

gigino wrote: »

if you are a traitor who wants to cost the country millions in extra security costs, and if you want to damage tourism to Ireland.

Lol. Are you having a laugh?

I'm protesting. It wasn't my decision for the state to spend so much money, so we don't get a say in it.

I can think of several ways that money could be spent to increase tourism, not blowing it on this mess that is some old monarch coming over.

So wake up.

Krusader · 10-05-2011 11:01PM

thehairyelbow wrote: »

God save the Queen.:D

She ain't no human being

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtUH2YSFlVU

MagicSean · 10-05-2011 11:01PM

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

Rhetorical question my man. If republicans see the whole island as one nation every visit should surely get the same amount of protest.

They haven't targeted the ROI previously. I don't see why they would. Perhaps be easier for them to rob a bank or something though.

Yes they have. They've left four bombs around Meath and Kildare in the past few weeks. Don't you read the papers? The current group calling itself the RIRA have no cause or support and have no qualms harming innocents of any religion or nationality.

KeithAFC · 10-05-2011 11:02PM

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

Rhetorical question my man. If republicans see the whole island as one nation every visit should surely get the same amount of protest.

They haven't targeted the ROI previously. I don't see why they would. Perhaps be easier for them to rob a bank or something though.

lol, imagine they did rob a bank. The police chasing the dissidents live on TV. :pac:

10-05-2011 11:04PM

There'll be trouble for sure.

Scummers don't need much of an excuse to cause trouble, and if there's one thing we have plenty of in this country, it's scummers.

Derfil · 10-05-2011 11:04PM

She'll come over and have a great time. The republican and loyalist **** wont get within an asses roar of spoiling anything.

She'll go home after a very successful visit and Paddy will be the bees knees in the UK.

Krusader · 10-05-2011 11:05PM

Deleted User wrote: »

There'll be trouble for sure.

Scummers don't need much of an excuse to cause trouble, and if there's one thing we have plenty of in this country, it's scummers.

ssssh...there's 1 above you :pac:

Heard of a Gardas security concerns for the British queens visit

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