Heard of a Gardas security concerns for the British queens visit

CommuterIE

I know a woman who's husband is a garda, most are only getting riot training now. Her husband believes that they are being very naive about this visit. It's not the queen herself, but the sheer potential for trouble on the streets.

They are as naive as they were for the Love Ulster march... yet this person will be here for four days!

The gardai expect riots, no doubt about it...

MagicMarker

I hope there is for the entertainment factor alone.

Gummy Panda

MagicMarker wrote: »

I hope there is for the entertainment factor alone.

I hope there is and it prevents me from going to work

Wheelie King

Trouble will happen that's a fact, it's just the scale that will be in question. It's the bus loads coming down from the North that will be the worry.

The Queen of England

MagicMarker wrote: »

I hope there is for the entertainment factor alone.

So do I.

I love it when it kicks off.

thehairyelbow

I really can't see the Queen causing that much trouble. What's the worst an ould wan like that could do?

orourkeda

thehairyelbow wrote: »

I really can't see the Queen causing that much trouble. What's the worst an ould wan like that could do?

nuke us

thehairyelbow

orourkeda wrote: »

nuke us

:eek:

123balltv

I cant see anything happening to be honest ............

most will be watching sky sports (English)

Eastenders

Corrie

Fools and horses

Channel 4 docu's

or even actually visiting London, Liverpool etc lets face it we love and watch everything English

KeithAFC

I can see a huge riot to be honest. Will be a few loyalists down too. lol

Sunnyisland

123balltv wrote: »

we love and watch everything English

except the queen

Kiera

KeithAFC wrote: »

I can see a huge riot to be honest. Will be a few loyalists down too. lol

Get back under your bridge! :rolleyes:

CommuterIE

IMO The Queen won't reach the garden of rememberance...

Security concerns will probably have her flown home...

I think they should stop the visit. Not because I disagree with the visit, but I have bad vibes about it

123balltv

realies wrote: »

except the queen

God save the Queen and big ears Charlie, slutty Fergie, mad Diana,
jealous Mags, racist but funny Philip, crazy Harry bastard child etc

The Royal family is a laughing stock and their not even English their German

Opinicus

orourkeda wrote: »

nuke us

I logged in just to thank that post

Ammsy500

Im waiting to hang my head in shame because of the gobsh#tes who will ruin in for everybody else :mad:

KeithAFC

CommuterIE wrote: »

IMO The Queen won't reach the garden of rememberance...

Security concerns will probably have her flown home...

I think they should stop the visit. Not because I disagree with the visit, but I have bad vibes about it

I don't see that. There is no way the Queen is going to plan this visit and her and Mary McAleese aren't going to get on with it and complete the visit.

I think some people need to just come to terms with it. The Queen is going to the republic on a state visit. I mean, what is possible wrong with it?

DundalkDuffman

thehairyelbow wrote: »

I really can't see the Queen causing that much trouble. What's the worst an ould wan like that could do?

Ask Princess Diana. Oh wait.

CommuterIE

KeithAFC wrote: »

I don't see that. There is no way the Queen is going to plan this visit and her and Mary McAleese aren't going to get on with it and complete the visit.

I think some people need to just come to terms with it. The Queen is going to the republic on a state visit. I mean, what is possible wrong with it?

Love Ulster riots will be a picnic compared to this, you'll have every single nutter in the country converging on Dublin, also from the North...

The Waltzing Consumer

CommuterIE wrote: »

Love Ulster riots will be a picnic compared to this, you'll have every single nutter in the country converging on Dublin, alsomostly from the North...

Fixed that for ya.

Latchy

CommuterIE wrote: »

IMO The Queen won't reach the garden of rememberance...

Security concerns will probably have her flown home...

I think they should stop the visit. Not because I disagree with the visit, but I have bad vibes about it

Me to .....

It's the innocents that get caught up in any trouble on the streets who I'll feel sorry for

My name is URL

I reckon there'll be some trouble.. just hope it doesn't get out of hand and is limited to a few scummers throwing traffic cones and the like. You can be sure the media will over-report on the negative aspects of the visit.. all this talk about how the visit will shine Ireland in a marvellous light is a bit optimistic.

KeithAFC

The rioters have no legit reason to riot.

Bottle_of_Smoke

They're pretty much getting every cop in the state in on this.

Riots will be easier to squash than in the north because the gardai don't have to worry about republican propaganda the way the psni do.

If there is a big riot its gonna look pretty partitionist to outsiders. Whens the last time a riot made the news for a British monarch visiting Belfast?

Wheelie King

Ammsy500 wrote: »

Im waiting to hang my head in shame because of the gobsh#tes who will ruin in for everybody else :mad:

That's a bit harsh on the Gardai

KeithAFC

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

They're pretty much getting every cop in the state in on this.

Riots will be easier to squash than in the north because the gardai don't have to worry about republican propaganda the way the psni do.

If there is a big riot its gonna look pretty partitionist to outsiders. Whens the last time a riot made the news for a British monarch visiting Belfast?

The Royal family have come over to Northern Ireland plenty of times and no riots at all. At least nothing that im aware about it. Northern Ireland is a different country though.

This is a visit to the ROI. So it is a bit different.

Wolfe Tone

I had planned to go to protest but I really think there well be trouble, dont feel like getting stuck in the crap in the middle of my exams. Probably will go anyways.

CommuterIE

KeithAFC wrote: »

The rioters have no legit reason to riot.

That's your opinion, but you need to understand that a lot of people in the Republic and indeed the North see a massive injustice in the status quo... I don't want to insult your intelligence, but you are seriously naive if you believe what you say about no legit reason

df1985

Are loyalists planning to come down in support of the visit? thatll only add fuel to the already big fire.

Wolfe Tone

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

They're pretty much getting every cop in the state in on this.

Riots will be easier to squash than in the north because the gardai don't have to worry about republican propaganda the way the psni do.

If there is a big riot its gonna look pretty partitionist to outsiders. Whens the last time a riot made the news for a British monarch visiting Belfast?

Whens the last time a visit to the north was made such a big deal of?

Proxy

I've had people in work giving me grief since I said in my opinion there will be all manner of trouble that will eclipse Love Ulster. It's not that I agree with it or welcome it (I definitely do not), but bloody hell, it's a certainty!

I live and work in Dublin city centre, and i'm getting remote access sorted so I can feck off to Galway for that week. Overly paranoid perhaps but I can't be arsed with the hassle of crossing the city during that.

Wolfe Tone

df1985 wrote: »

Are loyalists planning to come down in support of the visit? thatll only add fuel to the already big fire.

They will be down glorying it up Im sure

KeithAFC

CommuterIE wrote: »

That's your opinion, but you need to understand that a lot of people in the Republic and indeed the North see a massive injustice in the status quo... I don't want to insult your intelligence, but you are seriously naive if you believe what you say about no legit reason

The majority have spoken commuter. They need to see this.

KeithAFC

Another thing, Bottle of Smoke, you said pretty much every cop in the ROI is getting in on this, isn't that just making it easier for dissidents to plant a bomb and blow up something?

bayern282

Worst I can see is a few protests and minor skirmishes involving eirigi types, anything on a larger scale makes us look infantile, it shouldn't be a big deal if the head of a neighbouring non-hostile state visits us, England is to this corner of Europe what Sweden is to Scandinavia, the dominant culture, politically, culturally and linguistically furthermore the English themselves don't have a state, national anthem or seat at the UN, if anyone's oppressed by the Brits and the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha clan it's John Bull !

Am well aware of the reasons for protest, however if you think about what the Germans / Russians did to Poland and the Poles or what the Japanese did in Korea and China, Turks to Armenians and so on, it makes NI and The Troubles look like a schoolyard scrap.

Latchy

That a cctv over there I see ? ..........nah cant be

creative100

I'm a little baffled at the fact that users here are willingly unaware of the fact that there is an ongoing conflict in this country, albeit less intense to do with the British presence on this island.

The Queen is the Commander in Chief of the British Forces and represents that occupation.

That in itself is a reason to protest this visit. Everyone knows there will be trouble, why the sheer waste of money. The visit is UTTERLY pointless.

My name is URL

KeithAFC wrote: »

Northern Ireland is a different country.

This is a visit to the ROI. So it is a bit different.

This week on Geography with Keith..

same as last week

LizT

I hope to God that nothing happens for the country's reputation alone. It's already in tatters as it is and any more trouble will not help.

lugha

creative100 wrote: »

I'm a little baffled at the fact that users here are willingly unaware of the fact that there is an ongoing conflict in this country, albeit less intense to do with the British presence on this island.

No. No there isn't.

creative100 wrote: »

The Queen is the Commander in Chief of the British Forces and represents that occupation.

That in itself is a reason to protest this visit. Everyone knows there will be trouble, why the sheer waste of money. The visit is UTTERLY pointless.

What is utterly pointless is the protests, given that the queen has visited this country many times before.

Standard Toaster

I think she's fuckin nuts coming over. Something will deffo kick off when she hit Irish soil.

Personally I couldn't give a monkeys what she does as long as it doesn't cost me anything.
May even generate a few quid

TheZohanS

KeithAFC wrote: »

The Royal family have come over to Northern Ireland plenty of times and no riots at all. At least nothing that im aware about it. Northern Ireland is a different country though.

This is a visit to the ROI. So it is a bit different.

Your posts are idiotic and you are just a troll. AH doesn't need this sectarian bullshìt for you.

gigino

bayern282 wrote: »

Worst I can see is a few protests and minor skirmishes involving eirigi types, anything on a larger scale makes us look infantile, it shouldn't be a big deal if the head of a neighbouring non-hostile state visits us,

+1. Our President went on visits to England many times, and goes on a yearly visit to the Vatican. No big deal made about that. She Invites the head of the neighbouring country back here and if a drunken mob riot and create trouble it reflects bad on us.

KeithAFC

TheZohan wrote: »

Your posts are idiotic and you are just a troll. AH doesn't need this sectarian bullshìt for you.

Anything in that post which isn't true?. Lets stay on topic and leave out the nonsense. It is two different countries. Like some one said, by the mere fact there will be protests is partitionist.

creative100

lugha wrote: »

No. No there isn't.


What is utterly pointless is the protests, given that the queen has visited this country many times before.

Ok, there is no conflict. Everyone is perfectly happy that this country is partitioned, sure.

So you don't think the 30m + being spent on the visit is pointless, and god knows what else considering damage is to be expected after riots?

Protesting this visit is legitimate and valid.

Wolfe Tone

KeithAFC wrote: »

Anything in that post which isn't true?. Lets stay on topic and leave out the nonsense. It is two different countries. Like some one said, by the mere fact there will be protests is partitionist.

Keith its pretty evident that by posting the likes of the above you are only trying to bait the likes of myself.

Sorry to spoil it though, I aint biting, everyone is fed up seeing the same duel time and time again with no solution or new facts/input.

steve9859

I really don't see much happening during the Queens visit. There'll be no focal point for riots like the Love Ulster parade. All the visits are behind closed doors, right. And if any group tries to organize something themselves somewhere I would like to think that Garda intelligence would know about it. They have effectively taken 150 potential ringleaders off the streets already by keeing them under heavy surveillance

lugha

creative100 wrote: »

Ok, there is no conflict. Everyone is perfectly happy that this country is partitioned, sure.

True, many people would (foolishly!) think creating a single island state would be a good idea. But how does that amount to a conflict?

creative100 wrote: »

So you don't think the 30m + being spent on the visit is pointless, and god knows what else considering damage is to be expected after riots?

It is simply daft to protest against a visit by the head of the British state when we have a perfectly good relationship with the British government and the people.

creative100 wrote: »

Protesting this visit is legitimate and valid.

But they don't make sense to someone who does not accept the partitioning of Ireland. If Ireland is one country, visited many times by the queen, why make a big deal about this visit?

KeithAFC

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Keith its pretty evident that by posting the likes of the above you are only trying to bait the likes of myself.

Sorry to spoil it though, I aint biting, everyone is fed up seeing the same duel time and time again with no solution or new facts/input.

Solution for what? It wasn't me who organised the state visit. It was your president. People saying why is there never any riots in N.I when the Royals visit, look at the obvious reason.

thehairyelbow

God save the Queen.:D

gigino

creative100 wrote: »

Protesting this visit is legitimate and valid.

if you are a traitor who wants to cost the country millions in extra security costs, and if you want to damage tourism to Ireland.

Our hotels and tourism industry can do with all the positive publicity it can get - we need to project an image of a modern, friendly, tolerant people, not bitter republicans living in the past.