Protest at US murder of Bin Laden

UglyBolloxFace · 05-05-2011 06:38PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

I'd rather go on an IRA hunger striker march.

Now that would be funny.

Off topic - but wouldn't it be fecking highlarious if Boards was hacked again and KeithAFC's email was recovered as sinnfein@irlnet.com
.......Gerry in disguise!

Einhard · 05-05-2011 06:42PM

Almaviva wrote: »

Who is up for a protest march to the US embassy in Dublin this weekend to express our revulsion at the murder of Osama Bin Laden. It seems the land of the free has a long way to go if it can blur the distinction between execution and justice.

Are you in ?

How about we march to your house instead to protest at this idiotic, yet oh so predictable, twaddle.

Osama bin Laden declared war on America. America had no obligation to arrest him. The reaction of some people around these parts amazes me. If they had their way, America would politely have requested Asama's extradition, and when Pakistan either refused it, or more likely, facilitated his escape yet again, they'd expect America to just grin and bear it. Whilst Osama plots the death of further Irish, American, British, Jordanian, Indonesian civilians. The smug self-righteousness prevalent amongst sections of the Irish population, one that morphs so easily into anti-Americanism, really sickens me sometimes.

Hank_Jones · 05-05-2011 06:45PM

kbannon wrote: »

Hitler's dead? :eek:

They never really confirmed it properly, but surely he would have died by natural causes at this stage.

JohnathanM · 05-05-2011 06:48PM

Hank_Jones wrote: »

They never really confirmed it properly, but surely he would have died by natural causes at this stage.

Exhibit A:
http://mitchieville.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/hitler.jpg

Local-womanizer · 05-05-2011 06:50PM

Wait till the Op finds out about the other high ranking AQ leaders who were killed!

MyKeyG · 05-05-2011 06:55PM

Hank_Jones wrote: »

They never really confirmed it properly, but surely he would have died by natural causes at this stage.

Except for being executed at Nuremberg first.

Anyway as for the OP. The only problem I have with Osama being killed at the compound is that he didn't get the chance to suffer the humility of a trial and being shown to the world dangling from the end of a rope like the cruel minded spawn of Satan that he was!

ddef · 05-05-2011 06:57PM

I do hope you're joking.
IMO, His punishment was too easy for the lives he destroyed.
may he rot in hell.

Almaviva · 05-05-2011 07:09PM

Do not mistake it for approval for Bin Laden. This is nothing of the sort. Instead, a protest at the hypocracy of people, who portray themselves as the good guys, yet believe that killing can be authorised because they believe it to be justified. That is no better than bin Laden himself.

fedor.2. · 05-05-2011 07:12PM

Almaviva wrote: »

Do not mistake it for approval for Bin Laden. This is nothing of the sort. Instead, a protest at the hypocracy of people, who portray themselves as the good guys, yet believe that killing can be authorised because they believe it to be justified. That is no better than bin Laden himself.

Oh shurrup will ya

Chairman Meow · 05-05-2011 07:19PM

Almaviva wrote: »

Who is up for a protest march to the US embassy in Dublin this weekend to express our revulsion at the murder of Osama Bin Laden. It seems the land of the free has a long way to go if it can blur the distinction between execution and justice.

Are you in ?

Get tae fu*k, hippy.

godtabh · 05-05-2011 07:22PM

Almaviva wrote: »

Who is up for a protest march to the US embassy in Dublin this weekend to express our revulsion at the murder of Osama Bin Laden. It seems the land of the free has a long way to go if it can blur the distinction between execution and justice.

Are you in ?

Bloody tree hugging hippies

Son Of A Vidic · 05-05-2011 07:24PM

Almaviva wrote: »

Who is up for a protest march to the US embassy in Dublin this weekend to express our revulsion at the murder of Osama Bin Laden.

Our revulsion? So you speak for us all now do you? Fcuk the b@stard, he should have been skewered..................................slowly.

steve9859 · 05-05-2011 07:25PM

Almaviva wrote: »

Do not mistake it for approval for Bin Laden. This is nothing of the sort. Instead, a protest at the hypocracy of people, who portray themselves as the good guys, yet believe that killing can be authorised because they believe it to be justified. That is no better than bin Laden himself.

I think you would be a lot happier if you went back to lefty fairy-tale land!!

The Waltzing Consumer · 05-05-2011 07:26PM

Almaviva wrote: »

Do not mistake it for approval for Bin Laden. This is nothing of the sort. Instead, a protest at the hypocracy of people, who portray themselves as the good guys, yet believe that killing can be authorised because they believe it to be justified. That is no better than bin Laden himself.

Just awful awful rubbish!

I am disappointed Almaviva, disappointed

Rented Mule · 05-05-2011 07:26PM

Almaviva wrote: »

Who is up for a protest march to the US embassy in Dublin this weekend to express our revulsion at the murder of Osama Bin Laden. It seems the land of the free has a long way to go if it can blur the distinction between execution and justice.

Are you in ?

Best to show up wearing name tags. Easier for the Americans to file your grievance that way.

Einhard · 05-05-2011 07:28PM

Almaviva wrote: »

Do not mistake it for approval for Bin Laden. This is nothing of the sort. Instead, a protest at the hypocracy of people, who portray themselves as the good guys, yet believe that killing can be authorised because they believe it to be justified. That is no better than bin Laden himself.

Did you miss the whole part where OBL declared war on America? Seriously, what do you not understand about that? This wasn't some run of the mill police operation. Ths was a military operation against a self-declared enemy combatant.

Perhaps you could tell us Almaviva, how you would have dealt with the situation, had you been in Obama's shoes? How would you have brought about Osama's capture?

Local-womanizer · 05-05-2011 07:29PM

Almaviva wrote: »

Do not mistake it for approval for Bin Laden. This is nothing of the sort. Instead, a protest at the hypocracy of people, who portray themselves as the good guys, yet believe that killing can be authorised because they believe it to be justified. That is no better than bin Laden himself.

Why don't you label the march "Down with hypocritical people!" instead of basing it around the rightful (in my mind) killing of a murderous war criminal.

He declared war on the US, the US responded by shooting him in the head. All is fair.

stewie01 · 05-05-2011 07:34PM

Einhard wrote: »

Perhaps you could tell us Almaviva, how you would have dealt with the situation, had you been in Obama's shoes? How would you have brought about Osama's capture?

they could have taking him alive instead. only one gun man was armed in the compound. sounds like they went in with a blood bath on their mind

cosanostra · 05-05-2011 07:35PM

I think it was all a stage show to cover up the murder of Gadaffis son and grandkids, but if they did get him they really should have taken him alive and tried him just to show they aren't as bad as the people they are fighting in "the war on terror".

Local-womanizer · 05-05-2011 07:36PM

stewie01 wrote: »

they could have taking him alive instead. only one gun man was armed in the compound. sounds like they went in with a blood bath on their mind

The whole keeping him alive issue has been covered though.

You think that while Osama was sitting in a jail cell somewhere around the world his followers would be waiting anxiously on the outcome of his trial?

Somehow I don't think so,and anyway he would have been sentenced to death. See this way as a cost saving measure.

take everything · 05-05-2011 07:39PM

Almaviva wrote: »

Who is up for a protest march to the US embassy in Dublin this weekend to express our revulsion at the murder of Osama Bin Laden. It seems the land of the free has a long way to go if it can blur the distinction between execution and justice.

Are you in ?

All the cool kids are saying he's not dead.
Get with it man.

MyKeyG · 05-05-2011 07:39PM

Almaviva wrote: »

Do not mistake it for approval for Bin Laden. This is nothing of the sort. Instead, a protest at the hypocracy of people, who portray themselves as the good guys, yet believe that killing can be authorised because they believe it to be justified. That is no better than bin Laden himself.

What are you talking about? He was wanted for war crimes and Navy SEALs went to get him. Deadly force was required and used. It's not like they grapped him, tied his hands behind his back, knelt him down and shot him in the back of the head. Or might I add SAW HIS HEAD OFF ON TELEVISION!!!

Einhard · 05-05-2011 07:42PM

stewie01 wrote: »

they could have taking him alive instead. only one gun man was armed in the compound. sounds like they went in with a blood bath on their mind

If they went in intending a bloodbath, then surely everyone would have been shot? More people were taken alive than were killed, so unless the Seals are pretty crap at actually killing people, I think it's safe to say that a bloodbath wasn't intended. Also, he declared war on America. It wasn't a criminal operation, so there was no obligation on America to treat him as a criminal, as opposed to an enemy combatant.

Also, how do you know exactly what transpired? They were operating in hostile circumstances, against a man who would have no compunction about killing them, and who, by all accounts, lunged at them. They had already exchanged fire with hostiles within the compound. It's all very well to pontificate whilst sitting at your computer in Ireland with a cup of tea in your hand- not quite the same when you're living through it.

Also, it's BS to state that he should have been taken alive. Because, if he had, the usal suspects would be hammering America for violating Pakistan's sovereignty, or failing to knock on the compund door, or not being polite enough to the bin laden family. No matter what had transpired, one would still have peope here condemning America and Americans, and plannign marches on their embassies.

mariebeth · 05-05-2011 07:43PM

The man got what he deserved...so no, I'm definitely not in

MagicSean · 05-05-2011 07:44PM

cosanostra wrote: »

I think it was all a stage show to cover up the murder of Gadaffis son and grandkids, but if they did get him they really should have taken him alive and tried him just to show they aren't as bad as the people they are fighting in "the war on terror".

Do Navy Seals even carry handcuffs?

stewie01 · 05-05-2011 07:46PM

Local-womanizer wrote: »

The whole keeping him alive issue has been covered though.

You think that while Osama was sitting in a jail cell somewhere around the world his followers would be waiting anxiously on the outcome of his trial?

Somehow I don't think so,and anyway he would have been sentenced to death. See this way as a cost saving measure.

covered by who??? its not about how his followers feel is it, its about how a ''democratic'' country is ment to conduct itself around the world and hold its own values above those of a munatic.

how do you know he would of been sentenced to death. what crime did he commit? and saving money on keeping someone in prison doesnt really come into the equation in the ''land of the free'' now does it?

cosanostra · 05-05-2011 07:47PM

k_mac wrote: »

Do Navy Seals even carry handcuffs?

I'm sure they get up to all kinds of kinky sh1t!

CreepingDeath · 05-05-2011 07:48PM

Almaviva wrote: »

Who is up for a protest march to the US embassy in Dublin this weekend to express our revulsion at the murder of Osama Bin Laden. It seems the land of the free has a long way to go if it can blur the distinction between execution and justice.

Are you in ?

Where does the march start at ?

Is it the mosque at Clonskeagh ? :rolleyes:

MagicSean · 05-05-2011 07:49PM

stewie01 wrote: »

covered by who??? its not about how his followers feel is it, its about how a ''democratic'' country is ment to conduct itself around the world and hold its own values above those of a munatic.

how do you know he would of been sentenced to death. what crime did he commit? and saving money on keeping someone in prison doesnt really come into the equation in the ''land of the free'' now does it?

They weren't in the land of the free and they weren't looking for a criminal. They were in Pakistan, currently a warzone, and where looking for the leader of the opposition army. In any case, would the arrest and transport to America have been lawful as regards a criminal trial? I doubt it.

MyKeyG · 05-05-2011 07:51PM

k_mac wrote: »

Do Navy Seals even carry handcuffs?

As far as I know they carry a pocket full of these. http://www.treehugger.com/zipit-chair-ties.jpg

Protest at US murder of Bin Laden

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