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Cultural heritage being concreted over

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  • #62
    Insect Overlord
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,263 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Bock the Robber wrote: »
    Excuse me? If a council engineer wants to comment on this discussion, I'll be happy to engage with him. Right now, I have only you.

    Please indicate where my post is improperly researched.

    It's an opinion piece. It's emotive, playing to your readers' hearts and not to their heads. To quote you:
    I wonder who made the decision to do this and on what advice that decision was taken? I wonder if the person who ordered this understood the momentous and irreversible nature of what they have chosen to do.

    ...

    As people used to say when I was growing up, Have they any soul?

    ...

    Therefore, this decision was made by some unaccountable, ill-informed philistine.

    I find it ironic that you're here, appealing for empirical evidence, when you haven't gone to any effort to find out who was behind the decision. You wonder this, you wonder that. You've worked on assumption alone, right down to your labelling of the contractor/builder/architect at the end. Taking a few pictures of the work in progress is not enough, not if you intend to stand over the article.


  • #63
    Bock the Robber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭Bock the Robber


    Insect Overlord wrote: »
    It's an opinion piece. It's emotive, playing to your readers' hearts and not to their heads. To quote you:



    I find it ironic that you're here, appealing for empirical evidence, when you haven't gone to any effort to find out who was behind the decision. You wonder this, you wonder that. You've worked on assumption alone, right down to your labelling of the contractor/builder/architect at the end. Taking a few pictures of the work in progress is not enough, not if you intend to stand over the article.

    I didn't come here appealing for empirical evidence. I came here in response to your original statement:

    "The writer of that blog fails to recognise that the vaults, arches and tunnels were no longer secure enough to maintain the weight of traffic that William Street has been and will be dealing with."

    All the questions I asked arose from that categorical statement for which, finally, you were unable to produce supporting evidence.

    Glass houses, kid.


  • #64
    Insect Overlord
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,263 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Bock the Robber wrote: »
    I didn't come here appealing for empirical evidence. I came here in response to your original statement:
    Bock the Robber wrote: »
    Normally, when making a categorical statement of this kind, the least one might expect is an empirical observation indicating that a problem exists.

    Sorry, you were saying?


  • #65
    Bock the Robber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭Bock the Robber


    Insect Overlord wrote: »
    Sorry, you were saying?

    If I wanted empirical evidence here, I'd be coming to the goat's house for wool.

    I asked you for the data supporting your dismissive statement, which might be theoretical or empirical or both. That's a sufficiently wide request to allow you plenty of scope, but it turned out you were just making it up.

    Anyway, as I said to James, this isn't about a pissing contest. It's about an issue that concerns many people who care about the heritage of Limerick, and it's unfortunate that you can't grasp the significance of these concerns.


  • #66
    Insect Overlord
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,263 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Bock the Robber wrote: »
    I asked you for the data supporting your dismissive statement, which might be theoretical or empirical or both. That's a sufficiently wide request to allow you plenty of scope, but it turned out you were just making it up.

    I'm still surprised you took a comment containing the word "probably" as a categorical statement of fact. It's certainly not an absolute. People read things how they want to read them, I suppose...
    Bock the Robber wrote: »
    Anyway, as I said to James, this isn't about a pissing contest. It's about an issue that concerns many people who care about the heritage of Limerick, and it's unfortunate that you can't grasp the significance of these concerns.

    You'd be surprised. I have plenty of time for local history and heritage. I didn't post details of my feelings with regards to culture in Limerick because I expected the thread to go in a more nation-wide direction. Instead we're still just debating one incidence of culture being hidden/destroyed.

    I'd be happy for you to start a thread on the Limerick City forum if you want to get a more localised reaction. After Hours didn't feel like the place to lament a dent in the city's potential (see posts #9 and #16 in this thread for an idea of why...)


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  • #67
    Bock the Robber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭Bock the Robber


    I'd be happy for you to start a thread on the Limerick City forum if you want to get a more localised reaction. After Hours didn't feel like the place to lament a dent in the city's potential (see posts #9 and #16 in this thread for an idea of why...)

    I didn't start the thread. Somebody who read the original post did, and I also don't feel this is the place for it. However, I don't think the Limerick forum is the place, since it isn't a parochial issue. Although Limerick is an important Georgian site, vandalism of this sort is taking place all over the country.


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